Glad you got swayed. Pitties are awesome!
Life isn't always peachy, unfortunately, so don't feel bad about bringing the mood of the thread or forum down. This is reality.
I always thought therapy was a joke, but when my healthy girlfriend unexpectedly passed away in 2021 from COVID, I didn't know how to cope with life. First time that has ever happened for me and I've been through some rough crap that the average person will never have to go through. Losing Sherri was just too much to take. Anyway, I eventually tried therapy and it really helped for me. So it definitely works, at least for some people. At that time it was super hard to get into see a therapist as well because so many people were dying from COVID despite what the retarded deniers say. Therapy may be a good option for you and your wire.
You're welcome!Thank you for reaching out to me, this way. I am sorry to hear you had to go through such a thing: I can only imagine (and probably I cannot even actually fathom) what it means something like that. I have had therapy when I was about 23 and then again at 25, mostly to help me get out of some toxic relationship with an instructor I had started working as assistant with, and my parents, who had started opposing the relationship with my girlfriend at the time (now wife for 12 years). I have always believed in it and still do. As usual, it's done by humans and if said humans are not in their best intentions, everything becomes bad from good. But therapy in itself does work, I have no doubts. And there are lot of professionals out there who love their job and do it for the passion first, then for the pecuniary aspect (of course, why not, it's a job, it has to be remunerated).
The last days have been good, we go through bad days occasionally, and they are very bad days sometimes, and then good ones, which might be entire weeks, or even months. Unfortunately neither my wife nor I were 'wanted' in our relationship by the respective parents, we've lived a secluded life also because of that, but we are very difficult in terms of social relationships. We're extremely clean and not colluded, when it comes to what most people consider normal hypocritical-survival behavior. We just do not have the strength to sustain it and we keep canceling and prefering to stay alone. But this obviously paid a toll, along with us questioning if we just found ourselves out of pity, if we love each other, if we should move somewhere else, the usual stuff. The sense of "have I wasted all my life here" is not something we're alone in, I know.
Anyway, I finished working on my Gladiator today and I will post an update in the thread. I am very proud of my most complex 'scale crawler' achievement so far! Yes, sway bar included!
You're welcome!
No, you can't fathom it. Nobody can. Not unless you've gone through it. Even then I still don't understand it. More than three years later and it still doesn't feel like it is real and never will. I've moved forward and am happy again, but I'll never move past it. I'm happy again, but I will never forget about Sherri and life will never be the same without her. It's like I'm living a new life. Kind of surreal.
Anyway, that sucks you didn't get blessing for your relationship with your wife. Thankfully I've always had both my significant other and family like each other. I hope this can be fixed for you even if it is after all these years.
Jato speaks candidly... from the heart and from experience first hand. I have a ton of respect and humility towards him because he has proven to be a man of integrity, honesty, and fortitude. Opening up about personal struggles can make us feel embarrassed and vulnerable but sharing with people that can relate to or at the very least are supportive, helps a great deal to keep us grounded. In and of itself, that willingness to share can be quite therapeutic as you're obviously very aware.Thank you for reaching out to me, this way. I am sorry to hear you had to go through such a thing: I can only imagine (and probably I cannot even actually fathom) what it means something like that. I have had therapy when I was about 23 and then again at 25, mostly to help me get out of some toxic relationship with an instructor I had started working as assistant with, and my parents, who had started opposing the relationship with my girlfriend at the time (now wife for 12 years). I have always believed in it and still do. As usual, it's done by humans and if said humans are not in their best intentions, everything becomes bad from good. But therapy in itself does work, I have no doubts. And there are lot of professionals out there who love their job and do it for the passion first, then for the pecuniary aspect (of course, why not, it's a job, it has to be remunerated).
The last days have been good, we go through bad days occasionally, and they are very bad days sometimes, and then good ones, which might be entire weeks, or even months. Unfortunately neither my wife nor I were 'wanted' in our relationship by the respective parents, we've lived a secluded life also because of that, but we are very difficult in terms of social relationships. We're extremely clean and not colluded, when it comes to what most people consider normal hypocritical-survival behavior. We just do not have the strength to sustain it and we keep canceling and prefering to stay alone. But this obviously paid a toll, along with us questioning if we just found ourselves out of pity, if we love each other, if we should move somewhere else, the usual stuff. The sense of "have I wasted all my life here" is not something we're alone in, I know.
Anyway, I finished working on my Gladiator today and I will post an update in the thread. I am very proud of my most complex 'scale crawler' achievement so far! Yes, sway bar included!
Jato speaks candidly... from the heart and from experience first hand. I have a ton of respect and humility towards him because he has proven to be a man of integrity, honesty, and fortitude. Opening up about personal struggles can make us feel embarrassed and vulnerable but sharing with people that can relate to or at the very least are supportive, helps a great deal to keep us grounded. In and of itself, that willingness to share can be quite therapeutic as you're obviously very aware.
Only thing that I can stress, although probably goes without saying... is 'communication'. That doesn't mean being the lone person that is always sharing or expressing feelings. It includes genuinely listening and remembering what was said... because you care about that person and the relationship. Dialogue that breaks down and is no longer productive due to arguing incessantly, failing to accept differences of opinion, dismissing opposing feelings, or reacting with defensive posturing will take it's toll. Never talk over one another, never elevate negativity with insults or passive-aggressive jabs/ comments. An absence of healthy dialogue can very quickly ( and sooner or later) breed resentment. When that happens, the integrity and of the relationships foundation erodes and becomes compromised. Never try to "win" a discussion... especially upon aspects of the "I was right and you were wrong" mindset. It's okay to agree to disagree at times but do so with respectful consideration of the other persons views and feelings. For better or for worse, you and your spouse are a team and if the goal of resolve and genuine appreciation of one another are important, then that should ultimately be the priority of any dialogue.. heated or not.
I'm sure that you know all of this but it does sometimes help to make sure that we're not losing sight of these fundamentals. I wish you and your wife much success and resolution to whatever challenges you both face in your relationship. Things can be so difficult sometimes but in working towards the same end game of prosperity, solace, and positive interaction... positive and healthy results are achievable.
Please take care, brother.
I'm no hero. Quite the opposite. I have admittedly been through a lot and I just share my experiences to hopefully help others. It's also a great coping mechanism. I was a selfish prick that lived life for myself with little regard for others. Losing Sherri caused me to change my ways because I regret that I didn't treat her as well as she treated me. She always put me first. I always put me first. It's too late to change for Sherri, but I live in regret of the past and have tried to be different going forward. The fact that I even considered dating women with children and now I am in a relationship with a woman that has a son from a previous marriage is definitely a sign of that. I knew that dating a woman with kids would mean I wasn't always first. That is still tough for me at times..."It's like I'm living a new life. Kind of surreal." I had events in my life that put me in front of that 'door into the nothing' and then when you are past it, you almost see it so far above you and distant, and that's the 'living another life' thing. I somehow get what you mean. It takes a hero to go through what you are going through and it's inspiring that you are pushing through with such good humanity.
Thanks again for the good vibes, I am doing my best to see if I can get out of this situation. There is a lot of good in what we have now, but this is no excuse to try and get back to see someone and talk to someone. My years when I used to do real teaching, real work with people, seem so distant. For about 4-5 years I really talked only to my wife, saved for what you can tell to a cashier or someone at the post office. I know it's not 'the people's fault', I have my faults. But still, the rabbit hole is going quite far now.
Wow! You're way too kind. Thank you, sir! I do speak from the heart. It's all I really know how to do. I don't bullshit. I am an emotional being, usually skewed towards the angry side, but losing the woman I thought I was going to marry definitely slapped me in the face and made me realize I need to start treating people better and be happier myself! Now I am dating a woman who was nicknamed Mary ******* Sunshine in college because she's the definition of happy and she won't deal with a miserable dickhead. I also got to the point where I no longer held back talking about feelings. Even if it made me look like a wuss or weak, I simply didn't care because I needed to get things out there to get them off my chest. Again, I'm at the point where I hope I can help others.Jato speaks candidly... from the heart and from experience first hand. I have a ton of respect and humility towards him because he has proven to be a man of integrity, honesty, and fortitude. Opening up about personal struggles can make us feel embarrassed and vulnerable but sharing with people that can relate to or at the very least are supportive, helps a great deal to keep us grounded. In and of itself, that willingness to share can be quite therapeutic as you're obviously very aware.
Only thing that I can stress, although probably goes without saying... is 'communication'. That doesn't mean being the lone person that is always sharing or expressing feelings. It includes genuinely listening and remembering what was said... because you care about that person and the relationship. Dialogue that breaks down and is no longer productive due to arguing incessantly, failing to accept differences of opinion, dismissing opposing feelings, or reacting with defensive posturing will take it's toll. Never talk over one another, never elevate negativity with insults or passive-aggressive jabs/ comments. An absence of healthy dialogue can very quickly ( and sooner or later) breed resentment. When that happens, the integrity and of the relationships foundation erodes and becomes compromised. Never try to "win" a discussion... especially upon aspects of the "I was right and you were wrong" mindset. It's okay to agree to disagree at times but do so with respectful consideration of the other persons views and feelings. For better or for worse, you and your spouse are a team and if the goal of resolve and genuine appreciation of one another are important, then that should ultimately be the priority of any dialogue.. heated or not.
I'm sure that you know all of this but it does sometimes help to make sure that we're not losing sight of these fundamentals. I wish you and your wife much success and resolution to whatever challenges you both face in your relationship. Things can be so difficult sometimes but in working towards the same end game of prosperity, solace, and positive interaction... positive and healthy results are achievable.
Please take care, brother.
I'm no hero. Quite the opposite. I have admittedly been through a lot and I just share my experiences to hopefully help others. It's also a great coping mechanism. I was a selfish prick that lived life for myself with little regard for others. Losing Sherri caused me to change my ways because I regret that I didn't treat her as well as she treated me. She always put me first. I always put me first. It's too late to change for Sherri, but I live in regret of the past and have tried to be different going forward. The fact that I even considered dating women with children and now I am in a relationship with a woman that has a son from a previous marriage is definitely a sign of that. I knew that dating a woman with kids would mean I wasn't always first. That is still tough for me at times...
This is exactly what I'm talking about. I get the "sharing/ emotions = weakness" thing because that was the way that my dad raised me and that's the kind of guy that he and I both were for many years. But I also saw that shift as he got older, divorced my mom, remarried, acquired grand-kids, and ultimately faced some very serious and life-changing health issues. He was a pillar of strength and maintained many of his convictions throughout life but I had a profound respect for his kindness, humility, and willingness to change some of his ways and perspectives throughout his challenges.I'm no hero. Quite the opposite. I have admittedly been through a lot and I just share my experiences to hopefully help others. It's also a great coping mechanism. I was a selfish prick that lived life for myself with little regard for others. Losing Sherri caused me to change my ways because I regret that I didn't treat her as well as she treated me. She always put me first. I always put me first. It's too late to change for Sherri, but I live in regret of the past and have tried to be different going forward. The fact that I even considered dating women with children and now I am in a relationship with a woman that has a son from a previous marriage is definitely a sign of that. I knew that dating a woman with kids would mean I wasn't always first. That is still tough for me at times...
Wow! You're way too kind. Thank you, sir! I do speak from the heart. It's all I really know how to do. I don't bullshit. I am an emotional being, usually skewed towards the angry side, but losing the woman I thought I was going to marry definitely slapped me in the face and made me realize I need to start treating people better and be happier myself! Now I am dating a woman who was nicknamed Mary ******* Sunshine in college because she's the definition of happy and she won't deal with a miserable dickhead. I also got to the point where I no longer held back talking about feelings. Even if it made me look like a wuss or weak, I simply didn't care because I needed to get things out there to get them off my chest. Again, I'm at the point where I hope I can help others.
Having that awareness like you seem to and trying to not necessarily understand but accept that our spouses are sometimes coming from a very different place ( mindset, history, etc.. even potentially an psycological imbalance of sorts) can be challenging for sure. One thing that I think has helped in the struggles that my wife and I have faced when butting heads, is that we have never and probably will never speak maliciously/ vindictively. That helps a ton and I think that it's allowed us to keep our disagreements civilized. Doesn't mean that voices don't get raised in the heat of the moment but at least for us that's rare. I think that we've both developed a genuine appreciation for how to exchange our differing feelings, opinions, priorities, etc... at least as things work for us... Everyone's different.Thank you HPD, much appreciated, thanks for taking the time for this. I can confirm (and I'd say reassure you) that I am 100% with what you said and have always strived for this. Granted, there are times in which it's easy to slip, but both my wife have survived this far, because of communication, that's for sure. We talk a lot, productively, even if going sometimes over things we've talked about for years. My wife has unfortunately the tendency, more than me, to just go all out and attack, sometimes getting to real detailed and precise points that make it easy to go out of control. I try and keep my cool and I have so far almost always managed, granted there are those times in which you don't, but so far I have. I have never blamed her for such aggressive attacks, actually I think it's something she suffers from - to which degree I don't know. Most of the time it's easy to talk with her but she can twist at the turn of a second and go for blood, and nothing is good any longer, it's all bad, all pessimistic, all a precise, meticulous list of things that have gone wrong and faults by other people around us or things our parents did. Sadly, most of the time, you can count to 10 and be sure that it will turn out to be my fault, even if I did not start the issue at hand, she'll point out that I did or did not do something that triggered/provoked/allowed/worsened the issue. Keeping cool is very hard, in those situations, but I keep thinking she is doing it because she is not well, something in her personality broke maybe even before we met. I don't treat it as an illness, but I don't blame her. I am not sure if this is the way to go, and I told her many times (often causing an incendiary reaction) but I react to the personal attacks thinking that it's just thirst for blood that is blindly caused by something that is wrong with her. I have not talked to a professional about it, nor have I sent her in any way to one. Definitely this would be something a therapist (single/couple) would find useful to know.
I have my faults, I am not the easier person to be around, but I have never attacked that directly and blindly. She says that my attack is more my way of living and the way I 'forced her' around all my life choices, that she just blindly followed (unfortunately she did just follow without having specific projects of her own, aspirations, work, friends etc.).
I know for sure we both supported each other coming from difficult, similar situations, and we found a way to support each other and somehow function (where others would have just left us, feeling we'd be ballast to their 'normal' lives) but in supporting each other we've also reinforced some bad sides and for that reason pulled each other under.
As usual, these things are not easy, there are tons of facets, but at least communicating it all, letting it out respectfully, is the only way. And never ever react to fire with fire, I keep telling myself this when I breathe and wait before I speak..
Having that awareness like you seem to and trying to not necessarily understand but accept that our spouses are sometimes coming from a very different place ( mindset, history, etc.. even potentially an psycological imbalance of sorts) can be challenging for sure. One thing that I think has helped in the struggles that my wife and I have faced when butting heads, is that we have never and probably will never speak maliciously/ vindictively. That helps a ton and I think that it's allowed us to keep our disagreements civilized. Doesn't mean that voices don't get raised in the heat of the moment but at least for us that's rare. I think that we've both developed a genuine appreciation for how to exchange our differing feelings, opinions, priorities, etc... at least as things work for us... Everyone's different.
I certainly encourage you to keep communicating with your spouse and listening to not only what she says but to try to empathize with her and understand that she may indeed have some deep-rooted issues that are just not going to be resolved without some sort of intervention. I don't need to go on about this though... Sounds like you have a very solid handle on things. But if you think or in talking with her have determined that you are both seeking to remain together, considering some type of therapy, counseling, etc. It very likely may put her on the path to being a happier and more mentally/ emotionally healthy person.
Again... Best of luck to you both.
Well thank you! I'm honored.What can I say? I have weird heroes Thanks for trying to be the best human being you can, I promise I won't let you and y'all down and strive to do the same, every day.
I was raised the same way! "Boys don't cry." When Sherri died, that changed. I cried like a baby in front of everybody and often and I didn't give a single shit about how I looked. Pain had never been so real or so hurtful before.This is exactly what I'm talking about. I get the "sharing/ emotions = weakness" thing because that was the way that my dad raised me and that's the kind of guy that he and I both were for many years. But I also saw that shift as he got older, divorced my mom, remarried, acquired grand-kids, and ultimately faced some very serious and life-changing health issues. He was a pillar of strength and maintained many of his convictions throughout life but I had a profound respect for his kindness, humility, and willingness to change some of his ways and perspectives throughout his challenges.
In my own life... failed relationships, loss of friends/ family, physical deterioration, financial struggles, etc provided me a much more balanced perspective and accepting frame of mind about things including and most importantly how I deal with challenges, people, etc as I got older. I miss he and my mom something fierce these days... sigh.
BTW, Jato- It's not just what you endured on an emotional level that made me truly appreciate who you are but some of the physical shit that you've been through as well. Your determination to rise above is very admirable.
Well thank you! I'm honored.
I guess what I hope to "teach" people most about my situation is that you should try to not do things that may cause you to live in regret. In your case, at the moment, if you want your relationship to last then you have to make it your priority and fight harder for it than you have ever fought for anything!
Today seemed liked a good day for you. Things are headed in the right direction. Keep it going and hopefully you both can meet on a way to fix things.
Thank you, Reezo... much appreciated.
My wife similarly had a rather tumultuous childhood... abandoned by mother, father in and out of jail, was dismissed and ignored by much of her family, etc. And she's carried much of that weight throughout her life... made only more difficult for her when her mother died a few years ago... many unresolved issues, guilt, extensive grief/ difficulty achieving solace, etc.
She also keeps a journal and writes in it almost every day and keeps it on our coffee table. She's been doing that for maybe decades. I've never looked at any of that nor her phone or any other of her personal belongings because I'm just not that type of person. It makes her feel very secure and she very much needs and deserves to have her own personal and private outlets with no fear of those things being scrutinized or compromised.
Anyway.... you obviously possess a great deal of compassion for your wife as well as perseverance, self-reflection, and kindness. I hope that you continue to have more good days than bad and that the bond you've developed with your spouse continues to strengthen and progress in healthy ways.
Say what you want but to me 40" Treps and 43" Swamps are quite inspirational.In non inspirational or otherwise useful news, I made a quick run the Florida today to pick up some new (to me) crawler tires. Going from 40" treps to 43 swampers.
Well, Jato... My hat's off to you... seems we've got very similar perspectives on most things. Unfortunately in my case, being stupid cost me some of my health and a good deal of my younger days. But hell, married and bought a home in my 50's... never could've imagined lol.