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[stevejr]

Thank you sir! Blue loctite has been my friend for about three decades of various hobbies now. They should give me some kind of endorsement deal. :mrgreen: My LPK did actually come with both pins, and thanks to you, I know what the extra one is for. :lmao: I've just used the grip to keep it in place, same as the safety detent and spring. I'll take it apart and put the pin in there though.

The takedown spring is held in by a set screw not a threaded pin. The two threaded pins are for for the bolt catch and the forward assist. I don't believe the pin will work because the threads are different I believe.


Edit: The set screw size is 4-40. I just looked in my box of stuff. If the pin is 4-40 it could work if the pin will go inside the spring. If not you'd have to cut the spring down really far.

 

[cmbscx10]

Agreed with the above on the Scope OCD. I just started leveling and really learned how shi**ty a job i had done before. I now know it is not the gun but all me.


I have never heard of those ARC rings as i am still new and learning but man that is $$ well spent. As the saying goes you get what you pay for and saves a bunch of time and headache. I would even put those on my airguns for the precision alone. Thanks for the share and info."thumbsup"

 

[hpiguy]

The takedown spring is held in by a set screw not a threaded pin. The two threaded pins are for for the bolt catch and the forward assist. I don't believe the pin will work because the threads are different I believe.

Hmmmm, well my upper was already assembled and this is from a lower parts kit. I didn’t get a set screw for the takedown spring in my pack anywhere. I’ll have to shoot them an email. Thanks for the heads up Steve.

Agreed with the above on the Scope OCD. I just started leveling and really learned how shi**ty a job i had done before. I now know it is not the gun but all me.


I have never heard of those ARC rings as i am still new and learning but man that is $$ well spent. As the saying goes you get what you pay for and saves a bunch of time and headache. I would even put those on my airguns for the precision alone. Thanks for the share and info."thumbsup"

You know it’s funny you mention the rings. I told a buddy last night that a week ago I’d have thought; “Meh, they’re just rings, how great can they be.” But lots of guys swear by them, and now I literally cannot say enough good things about them. And what a difference it is to not have to battle the twisting of the tube in normal rings. I can still get those right too, but it’s more of a headache and regular rings are subject to other issues as well. Sometimes there really is a better mouse trap.

 

[stevejr]

I could be wrong about the pin but I don't 100% know for sure. I do know that I have never bought a parts kit that includes the 4-40 set screw because for the longest time only a few manufacturers threaded the hole for it. Now most do if I'm not mistaken.

I've learned LPKs sometimes have extra stuff in them. My first build there were 4 takedown pin detents and springs. I was freaking out wondering where they go. You may just have received an extra pin. I wouldn't sweat it. If you want a set screw I can send you a couple in the mail. I bought a pack of 100 from Fastenal and I'll never use them all.

 

[JatoTheRipper]

The takedown spring is held in by a set screw not a threaded pin. The two threaded pins are for for the bolt catch and the forward assist. I don't believe the pin will work because the threads are different I believe.


Edit: The set screw size is 4-40. I just looked in my box of stuff. If the pin is 4-40 it could work if the pin will go inside the spring. If not you'd have to cut the spring down really far.

What are you talking about in this post - the Aero receivers?


1911 triggers are the best. Have you guys seen the Hudson H9? Their objective was to be a striker fired gun with a 1911 trigger. Cool concept, but twice as expensive as it should be IMO.

And, yes, John Browning was a genius. It's incredible that most guns really haven't advanced too much past his original concepts. I wish I had the chance to shoot his Hi Power. You know the prices will skyrocket on those, if they haven't already, since they were discontinued.

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[stevejr]

What are you talking about in this post - the Aero receivers?


1911 triggers are the best. Have you guys seen the Hudson H9? Their objective was to be a striker fired gun with a 1911 trigger. Cool concept, but twice as expensive as it should be IMO.

And, yes, John Browning was a genius. It's incredible that most guns really haven't advanced too much past his original concepts. I wish I had the chance to shoot his Hi Power. You know the prices will skyrocket on those, if they haven't already, since they were discontinued.

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Sorry I should have quoted the post I was referring to but I was getting into my car to leave work and didn't think to do it. Yes I was talking about hpiguys aero lower and lower parts kit. Some lowers have the takedown spring/detent hole threaded to accept a set screw to hold them in instead of using the buffer tube endplate to hold them in. His parts kit came with 2 threaded pins for some reason and we were discussing if the second one could be used as the spring retainer.

 

[JatoTheRipper]

Sorry I should have quoted the post I was referring to but I was getting into my car to leave work and didn't think to do it. Yes I was talking about hpiguys aero lower and lower parts kit. Some lowers have the takedown spring/detent hole threaded to accept a set screw to hold them in instead of using the buffer tube endplate to hold them in. His parts kit came with 2 threaded pins for some reason and we were discussing if the second one could be used as the spring retainer.

Thank you. I hadn't realized that. I'm in the middle of my first AR-15 build right now using an Aero stripped lower and an Aero upper. I just checked the page for the M4E1 "enhanced" lower that I'm using and it does, indeed, say you can use a screw for the takedown pin detent. Good to know! Unfortunately, I'm using the Strike Industries Enhanced LPK not the Aero one so I didn't get that 4-40 screw. It's very odd that Aero didn't include it since they did include the bolt stop threaded pin. I'm going to order it now. Thanks for the tip!

From the Aero website: "Threaded Takedown Pin Detent Recess - Allows user to easily install the Takedown Pin detent and spring with the use of a 4-40 set screw (no more launching detents across the room)."

 

[stevejr]

Jato my offer stands to you as well. I have a pack of 100 of those set screws. I can mail you a couple in an envelope if you need some and don't mind waiting on the post office.

As I said in an earlier post I have not encountered a lower parts kit from any manufacturers that include the set screw for that spring because not every lower threads the hole and technically it is not required for assembly. They would probably get 1000 emails a day with people asking what it is for if they included it and the lower wasn't threaded.

I actually bought the correct drill bit and tap so if I get a lower that isn't threades I can tap it myself. Haven't had to do it yet because all my lowers so far have been threaded.

 

[JatoTheRipper]

Jato my offer stands to you as well. I have a pack of 100 of those set screws. I can mail you a couple in an envelope if you need some and don't mind waiting on the post office.

As I said in an earlier post I have not encountered a lower parts kit from any manufacturers that include the set screw for that spring because not every lower threads the hole and technically it is not required for assembly. They would probably get 1000 emails a day with people asking what it is for if they included it and the lower wasn't threaded.

I actually bought the correct drill bit and tap so if I get a lower that isn't threades I can tap it myself. Haven't had to do it yet because all my lowers so far have been threaded.

Thanks a lot! I appreciate it! "thumbsup" There's an Ace Hardware right next to my work so I'm going to check there after work, but if I can't find anything I might take you up on that offer.

 

[hpiguy]

Steve, I'll keep that in mind and I really appreciate it. "thumbsup" But my local Ace is a mom & pop operation that usually has this kind of stuff so I'll check on the way home today. If not, I'll shoot you a PM.

I am a bit pissed that I bought my LPK straight from Aero and they didn't include it.

The Hudson is interesting, but I agree that it's way overpriced IMO. The Browning Hi Power prices skyrocketed a decade or so ago, maybe longer but now that they've ceased production I bet they get insane. I loved the 1911s that I've owned, but as I've gotten older I've become somewhat more practical about my gun purchases and I just don't have a role for a 1911 platform anymore. And that kind of makes me sad, as at one point in time I would have told you it was the finest handgun platform in the world. It still may be, depending on your intended use. But for my use, I need something that I'm also comfortable carrying, and I'm just not sold on cocked and locked for my own personal needs. Nor do I like manual safeties on my carry guns, so the 1911 gets ruled out by default.

 

[stevejr]

Steve, I'll keep that in mind and I really appreciate it. "thumbsup" But my local Ace is a mom & pop operation that usually has this kind of stuff so I'll check on the way home today. If not, I'll shoot you a PM.

I am a bit pissed that I bought my LPK straight from Aero and they didn't include it.

The Hudson is interesting, but I agree that it's way overpriced IMO. The Browning Hi Power prices skyrocketed a decade or so ago, maybe longer but now that they've ceased production I bet they get insane. I loved the 1911s that I've owned, but as I've gotten older I've become somewhat more practical about my gun purchases and I just don't have a role for a 1911 platform anymore. And that kind of makes me sad, as at one point in time I would have told you it was the finest handgun platform in the world. It still may be, depending on your intended use. But for my use, I need something that I'm also comfortable carrying, and I'm just not sold on cocked and locked for my own personal needs. Nor do I like manual safeties on my carry guns, so the 1911 gets ruled out by default.

Just let me know guys. I live 4 blocks from a post office so I can mail them out same day.

Iunderstand your frustration with them not including the set screw and I don't want to sound like a broken record but I have yet to see any lower parts kit include them. I've bought Aero, Spikes Tactical, Palmetto State, and even Joe Bob Outfitters lower parts kits and not a single one had it. The set screw isn't necessary and most people don't even realize you can use it in some lowers so they don't include it. The worst part is when you go to order one if you can't source it locally it is cheap but you pay the same shipping on one 5 cent part as you do on hundreds of them. That's why I just ordered a bag of 100. I didn't have a hardware store that carries stuff like that at the time. Now I have an Ace a half mile from me.

As for carrying a 1911 I now agree with not carrying mine. I was running draw and fire drills one day and kept forgetting to swipe the thumb safety off even after hours of practicing doing it. I now carry my PPQ M2 full time. Talk about a sweet trigger! I went from my carrying my Glock 22 to a Sig 1911, then to a Sig 320, and finally decided on my PPQ. It shoots well and the trigger is almost too nice for a stock striker fired gun. Obviously with the exception of the 320 this was over the course of almost 2 decades of carrying a gun.

 

[JatoTheRipper]

As for carrying a 1911 I now agree with not carrying mine. I was running draw and fire drills one day and kept forgetting to swipe the thumb safety off even after hours of practicing doing it. I now carry my PPQ M2 full time. Talk about a sweet trigger! I went from my carrying my Glock 22 to a Sig 1911, then to a Sig 320, and finally decided on my PPQ. It shoots well and the trigger is almost too nice for a stock striker fired gun. Obviously with the exception of the 320 this was over the course of almost 2 decades of carrying a gun.

I bought a lower grade 1911 (Rock Island) just to shoot occasionally at the range. I'd like to own a higher end one someday, but I probably won't because, like you guys said, they just aren't anything more than toys.

stevejr - I almost bought a PPQ M2. Maybe now I should. But I'm trying to transition to carrying a compact sized gun. What did or didn't you like about the 320?

 

[stevejr]

I bought a lower grade 1911 (Rock Island) just to shoot occasionally at the range. I'd like to own a higher end one someday, but I probably won't because, like you guys said, they just aren't anything more than toys.

stevejr - I almost bought a PPQ M2. Maybe now I should. But I'm trying to transition to carrying a compact sized gun. What did or didn't you like about the 320?

That answer is actually pretty funny. There is nothing I don't like about my 320. It is a great pistol. The "voluntary upgrade" aka recall for the drop safety issue actually made the trigger on it better and it was already really good.

My Glock was also a great pistol and I carried it from the time I turned 21 until I was in my 30s.. I just liked the 320 better and I actually shoot it better.

Then one day my brother bought a PPQ, I shot it, and it just feels right to me. I found one on clearance at Dicks (won't shop there anymore) for $400 because it was in .40 SW. No one buys .40 anymore because the FBI went back to 9mm so obviously that caliber is completely garbage. Made me happy because I only shoot 2 pistol calibers. The .40sw and the .45acp. The trigger is so nice that there are actually videos on YouTube with people claiming it is too dangerous to carry because it is so light. I disagree with that because if you follow the 4 rules it doesn't matter how light the trigger is.

Before I accidentally start a war here I know there is nothing a .40 can do that a modern 9mm can't do. I just prefer shooting .40sw. I actually recommend the 9mm to most people because it is such a versatile cartridge. One benefit to being on the .40 short and weak train is I can get really nice guns for cheap. I picked up a used Sig P226 DAK with night sights and 3-13rd magazines for $325 because it was in .40. I sent it to sig to convert it to DA/SA and have the SRT kit installed. I am just over $600 into a gun that costs almost or over $1000 new.

 

[hpiguy]

Tim, I would personally rank Rock Island as an excellent 1911 regardless of price and fudd status quo. I'll own another someday, as they're one of my all time favorite range guns.

Steve, as I've learned the hard way, it's all about what you shoot well and are comfortable with. I now have the stuff to load .40S&W and 10mm, so I've been looking hard at 10mm because it really comes into it's own with handloads.

Hell, I used to make fun of Glocks being tupperware guns :mrgreen:, but it turns out I shoot them really well and they line up instinctively for me so that's what I run. Had it been another brand that did the same, as long as it was a reputable brand and model, I couldn't care less.

 

[stevejr]

Tim, I would personally rank Rock Island as an excellent 1911 regardless of price and fudd status quo. I'll own another someday, as they're one of my all time favorite range guns.

Steve, as I've learned the hard way, it's all about what you shoot well and are comfortable with. I now have the stuff to load .40S&W and 10mm, so I've been looking hard at 10mm because it really comes into it's own with handloads.

Hell, I used to make fun of Glocks being tupperware guns :mrgreen:, but it turns out I shoot them really well and they line up instinctively for me so that's what I run. Had it been another brand that did the same, as long as it was a reputable brand and model, I couldn't care less.

I agree 100% with everything in this post.

I will also add if anyone is looking for a 1911 on the cheaper side and wants the experience of tinkering with one the Sarco kits are pretty good as well when on sale.

The ONLY reason I have a Sig 1911 is because when I was in the market for one I found mine on sale for $700 and got 20% off on top for using the chain I bought it from credit card. My first 1911 was made by Israel Arms and cost me roughly $300 used. It wasn't boutique but it tore the center out of paper targets like no other! Unfortunately I sold that gun to a friend when I was younger

 

[cmbscx10]

Should go in the WTH thread but wonder if you can Hand Load?


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[hpiguy]

^^"The POWERSHOT!" :lmao: That thing is goofier than a football bat.

 

[JatoTheRipper]

Tim, I would personally rank Rock Island as an excellent 1911 regardless of price and fudd status quo. I'll own another someday, as they're one of my all time favorite range guns.

Steve, as I've learned the hard way, it's all about what you shoot well and are comfortable with. I now have the stuff to load .40S&W and 10mm, so I've been looking hard at 10mm because it really comes into it's own with handloads.

Hell, I used to make fun of Glocks being tupperware guns :mrgreen:, but it turns out I shoot them really well and they line up instinctively for me so that's what I run. Had it been another brand that did the same, as long as it was a reputable brand and model, I couldn't care less.

I agree, but gun snobs turn their nose up at Rock Island. I don't know why because everybody that I know that has one has had great experiences with them.

I agree 100% with everything in this post.

I will also add if anyone is looking for a 1911 on the cheaper side and wants the experience of tinkering with one the Sarco kits are pretty good as well when on sale.

The ONLY reason I have a Sig 1911 is because when I was in the market for one I found mine on sale for $700 and got 20% off on top for using the chain I bought it from credit card. My first 1911 was made by Israel Arms and cost me roughly $300 used. It wasn't boutique but it tore the center out of paper targets like no other! Unfortunately I sold that gun to a friend when I was younger

Sarco is about an hour from me. I've been there a few times. Odd place. It's like a dark and dingy dungeon, but they have lots and lots of stuff. It's right next to a brand new, state of the art store and range called Heritage Guild.

Do you have personal experience with the Sarco 1911 kits? I only recently learned you could built a 1911 like you can build an AR.

 

[hpiguy]

You can build a 1911 for sure. But the tools and jigs you need are very expensive. I have a NIB complete Colt series 70 commander length slide, and a lot of other 1911 parts in a box somewhere. There's a good reason I've never built another one out of parts. Maybe someday I will though, seems like a cool project and you'd have a truly unique weapon when you were done.

 

[stevejr]

Jato - I was recommended the Sarco kit because I had a Remington Rand slide and I wanted to build it into a full gun that resembled a real 1911a1. Better to practice on something that wasn't technically a piece of history. I did buy some parts from Sarco but not a kit and I muddled through They are supposedly in the same tier as Rock Island when finished which is plenty good enough.

Hpi - Building a 1911 that fires is not as hard as people like to make it sound. Knowing what you did to make it fire and how to fix it if it doesn't is what is hard. Making sure it is safe to fire and doesn't go kaboom or full auto is part of the challenge.

The specialalty tools I bought were a trigger track stone, a slide/frame rail file, barrel alignment block, plunger tube staking jig, and frame rail stoning tool.

Bottom line is unless you want to read a ton, spend lots of money, possibly blow yourself up, or any one of a mess of things BUYING 1911s is the way to go. Building one is extremely satisfying though. It is real gunsmithing. Everything is hand fitted not just thrown together like an AR.