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SVT's Budget Honcho Build Off Entry
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svt923
I wanna be Dave
You should meet me in real life, I'm thoroughly less impressive and entertaining.
I believe my sentiments can be summed up in the words from the great literary masterpiece, One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish:
"These things are fun and fun is good."
+1000 on the class level of this thread for having read a book.
So I have an update, it is a boring one but live with it. A lot of money was spent too because there was a lot of it in the budget and I'm impatient.
Budget Monkey! How much jack do I have to blow?
Ahh, $92.01 from last week plus $50 for this week for a total of $142.01.
Now back to your cage until the next post!
He's an independent contractor so I'm not legally required to treat him with dignity.
Quick, what's the quickest way to improve performance and spend a lot of money?
Did you say wheels and tires?
Did you really?
Are you actually talking to your screen? You know I can't hear you, right?
I guess I'll let you weirdos stick around while I talk about everyone's favorite subject. As a big fan of (probably unnecessary) wheel and tire purchasing, this is a hard week for me. There are so many good tires out right now and even more wheels so it is hard to pick just one set. Since this is a budget build, there is only room for one set of wheels and tires whether I like it or not.
Let's start with wheels, shall we?
There are an endless supply of wheels that could fit in the budget: plastic beadlocks, stamped steel, Chinese knockoffs, etc. My criteria was something durable, easy to mount, and lightweight which cuts down the options considerably. In the end, $43 was exchanged for goods and/or services in the form of:
Incision KMC plastic wheels. Stock photo, I forgot to take a picture of the actual wheel. Oops.
Why these wheels?
Well, the classic dual beadlock design is easy to mount any tire (a key consideration when I had not yet selected tires), they hold a bead securely, are lightweight, are relatively cheap, are compatible with Locked Up rings for a different look down the road, and the ability to bolt on an aluminum hub eliminates any potential stripped hex issues. What's not to love?
Oh, they don't weigh enough for you?
Learn to setup and drive your truck and you don't need to weight your wheels. So go jump in a lake with your 35 lbs of stick on lead.
As for tires, that was a MT-R of personal preference.
So clever.
RC4WD 4.19 Goodyear MT-Rs: a classic badass offroad tire. Something appropriately aggressive for a chopped Tacoma with a tube bed. Would anyone really put that much work into a truck then run all terrains? No, no they wouldn't (I don't care if you did, it doesn't prove my point so keep your mouth shut).
The MT-Rs come in RC4WD's newest X2S3 compound, which is as good as anything on the market. Any preconceived notions you have about RC4WD tires based on their previous compounds, throw them in the trash with your wheel weights. These are soft, sticky, and include some decent foams. That is a good thing because this week doesn't have money for new foams. Speaking of money, unlike other companies that up the price with their new compounds, RC4WD kept these the same price as their old tires.
6 screws in the back, 6 in the front and boom.
Enjoy some pictures.
And now on the truck.
Center caps make installing wheels a pain but we all have to make sacrifices for looks. Pain is beauty, right ladies?
Small tires on lowered truck = win
So, yeah, that's all I got. Told you it would be a boring installment.
Want to complain about how it took me 12 days to mount some tires and take pictures? Snarky responses guaranteed!
Fine, we'll just get to the math.
Incision wheels - $43
RC4WD tires - $25x2= $50
Stage #5 Total = $93
Next stage, I have:
$92.01 + ($50-$93) = $49.01
Better than I though I would do when things were originally planned. Self high-five!
See you in another 12 days.
Or more
Or less, who knows.
Damn, I hate cliffhang......
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calcagno45
RCC Addict
O nice! Real nice. That combo looks right on the lowered Tancho((Taco - co) + (Honcho - Ho). And I didn't realize those cheapy wheels are compatible with LURC rings, you should be able to dress it up nicely down the roads, as the budget permits.
I didn't get the need for Harley's bed corner panels to hide the gaps as I didn't think the gaps were that noticeable. Except for in this pic where you have it so I can see an even tinier truck thru the bed gap. It was playing tricks on my mind. Then I noticed you politely included a snippet of some action figure action on the far right and realized you were just playing tricks with my mind. Touche.
I didn't get the need for Harley's bed corner panels to hide the gaps as I didn't think the gaps were that noticeable. Except for in this pic where you have it so I can see an even tinier truck thru the bed gap. It was playing tricks on my mind. Then I noticed you politely included a snippet of some action figure action on the far right and realized you were just playing tricks with my mind. Touche.
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2mtech
RCC Addict
There's my laugh or six for the day, thanks.
I like how those 12-day project wheels/tires look, may even make me rethink my RC3WD prejudice. Maybe.
I like how those 12-day project wheels/tires look, may even make me rethink my RC3WD prejudice. Maybe.
svt923
I wanna be Dave
Yes, I know, "what the hell is taking you so long?" Nice to see you too.
Its not like I don't want to work on the Honcho, there is just lots of other things I'm supposed to be doing. I made an incredible flourless chocolate cake for my wife's birthday, I built a table, I caught up on some Dateline reruns (spoiler alert: the husband did it): all very important things that unfortunately cut into Honcho time. Well, I got back to work and here I am so let's go.
You may recall my hugely popular assistant, the budget monkey, from my last post. Well, he's dead. Apparently that happens if you lock animals in cages and don't give them food and water. Oh well, he was weak and left me to do all the work. On a related topic, I am accepting applications for an intern.
So for phase whatever I'm on, the budget is $49.01 carried over + $50 for this phase = $99.01. I'm not going cheap this time.
So you know those great mods that add function and improve durability? I'm getting to exactly none of those type this time around. Its all about vanity this week; pure, unadulterated, all-American vanity. Let's get vain!
Hello there Mr. Honcho Body, so nice to see you. It would be a shame if...
Someone ripped your eyes off!
HA! Now you won't see this coming!
Oh god! The horror!
Now, you may be wondering why I cut off the Honcho's face like Nicolas Cage did to John Travolta in the very appropriately titled classic, Face/Off. Although my first though was to attach it to my face in order to impersonate the Honcho, I decided to take things in another direction. Also, if I just ruined Face/Off for you, that is what you get for not seeing a move that is 21 years old by now.
Those on the smarter end of the reader pool probably have already figured out what is going on but for the rest of you:
Ta-da!
A Knight Customs Honcho grill. This particular version is the 2001-2004 stock grill but there is also the option on a couple 1998-2000 grills. I chose the one I liked the best, no deeper reason here.
At this point, the Knight Customs grill is really a requirement of a Honcho build, it is no longer optional. I'm currently forming some kind of ruling body to preside over all tiny trucks to issue mandates such as this. I'm not saying I have to be president or chairman but at least treasurer. Details are still being worked out.
For those who aren't familiar, all of Knight Custom's stuff is printed through Shapeways. The grill is made up of the main piece printed in nylon and the lenses printed in acrylic. Straight from Shapeways, the lenses come rather opaque but a few coats of Tamiya X-22 clear makes a big difference.
The inside of the light buckets was hit with a Molotow chrome paint pen for some more reflectiveness (not sure that is a word) and the lenses were glued on with some Testors non-fogging glue.
Now when it came to installing the grill, things got interesting. My plan was to glue it in with E6000 for a clean look but I couldn't get the grill to stay aligned in the opening while the glue dried. Every clamp I tried either didn't hold the grill in the right spot or squished the shape of the opening and created terrible, unsightly gaps.
Eventually I said screw it! Literally, I screwed the grill in and everything was better. The M2.5 cap heads will get replaced by button heads whenever I get around to it.
See, no Honcho should be allowed out with out one of those grills. It just looks so much better at this point, but I'm not done yet!
Remember how I said the Incision wheels were compatible with Locked Up rings? Well guess where some more money went.
A full set of Locked Up Orb rings with some accompanying scale hardware was acquired for this very purpose. The Orb rings are basically the soul mate of the Incision plastic wheels because the 6 spoke pattern lines up perfectly with the Orb's design. So very many tiny, tiny screws were installed. Luckily I only have to install them once.
Wheel done.
After all the tiny screws were in, it is still only 6 screws to install the ring so that part went quick. Notice the harmony of the ring and wheel patterns, just beautiful.
While I was at it, I took this opportunity to replace the plastic hubs with some aluminum Incision hubs. The wheels come with #4 hubs but I replaced them with some #3 hubs to narrow things up a bit. No stripped hex problems now or ever.
Center caps make wheel removal and installation a pain but just look at that.
How can you say no to that? You can't unless you are a terrible, deeply flawed, irredeemable person. Who knew center caps could bring you to a moment of great personal truth?
Everything just looks so right together.
And one more of the grill.
Man, I love that thing.
So I spent a bunch of money and gained no performance. Yay for smart purchases!
How much did I spend anyway?
What! That's not good.
Knight Customs grill - $37
Knight Customs lenses - $13
Locked Up Orb rings - $24
Locked Up scale hardware - $28
Incision hubs - $20
Total $122
So for the next stage:
$49.01 + ($50-$122) = -$22.99
Well, looks like I'm going to have to get myself DIY-ing for next time. I hope you have enjoyed this installment because I have literally spent all my money for your entertainment. Since I am now poor and on the run from Amain collection agents, you can contribute to this ongoing Honcho effort by sending parts to:
SVT923
Cardboard box under a highway overpass
Somewhere around Raleigh, NC 276 something something
I look forward to your support if I don't die from dysentery.
Goodbye for now (and possibly forever but hopefully not).
Its not like I don't want to work on the Honcho, there is just lots of other things I'm supposed to be doing. I made an incredible flourless chocolate cake for my wife's birthday, I built a table, I caught up on some Dateline reruns (spoiler alert: the husband did it): all very important things that unfortunately cut into Honcho time. Well, I got back to work and here I am so let's go.
You may recall my hugely popular assistant, the budget monkey, from my last post. Well, he's dead. Apparently that happens if you lock animals in cages and don't give them food and water. Oh well, he was weak and left me to do all the work. On a related topic, I am accepting applications for an intern.
So for phase whatever I'm on, the budget is $49.01 carried over + $50 for this phase = $99.01. I'm not going cheap this time.
So you know those great mods that add function and improve durability? I'm getting to exactly none of those type this time around. Its all about vanity this week; pure, unadulterated, all-American vanity. Let's get vain!
Hello there Mr. Honcho Body, so nice to see you. It would be a shame if...
Someone ripped your eyes off!
HA! Now you won't see this coming!
Oh god! The horror!
Now, you may be wondering why I cut off the Honcho's face like Nicolas Cage did to John Travolta in the very appropriately titled classic, Face/Off. Although my first though was to attach it to my face in order to impersonate the Honcho, I decided to take things in another direction. Also, if I just ruined Face/Off for you, that is what you get for not seeing a move that is 21 years old by now.
Those on the smarter end of the reader pool probably have already figured out what is going on but for the rest of you:
Ta-da!
A Knight Customs Honcho grill. This particular version is the 2001-2004 stock grill but there is also the option on a couple 1998-2000 grills. I chose the one I liked the best, no deeper reason here.
At this point, the Knight Customs grill is really a requirement of a Honcho build, it is no longer optional. I'm currently forming some kind of ruling body to preside over all tiny trucks to issue mandates such as this. I'm not saying I have to be president or chairman but at least treasurer. Details are still being worked out.
For those who aren't familiar, all of Knight Custom's stuff is printed through Shapeways. The grill is made up of the main piece printed in nylon and the lenses printed in acrylic. Straight from Shapeways, the lenses come rather opaque but a few coats of Tamiya X-22 clear makes a big difference.
The inside of the light buckets was hit with a Molotow chrome paint pen for some more reflectiveness (not sure that is a word) and the lenses were glued on with some Testors non-fogging glue.
Now when it came to installing the grill, things got interesting. My plan was to glue it in with E6000 for a clean look but I couldn't get the grill to stay aligned in the opening while the glue dried. Every clamp I tried either didn't hold the grill in the right spot or squished the shape of the opening and created terrible, unsightly gaps.
Eventually I said screw it! Literally, I screwed the grill in and everything was better. The M2.5 cap heads will get replaced by button heads whenever I get around to it.
See, no Honcho should be allowed out with out one of those grills. It just looks so much better at this point, but I'm not done yet!
Remember how I said the Incision wheels were compatible with Locked Up rings? Well guess where some more money went.
A full set of Locked Up Orb rings with some accompanying scale hardware was acquired for this very purpose. The Orb rings are basically the soul mate of the Incision plastic wheels because the 6 spoke pattern lines up perfectly with the Orb's design. So very many tiny, tiny screws were installed. Luckily I only have to install them once.
Wheel done.
After all the tiny screws were in, it is still only 6 screws to install the ring so that part went quick. Notice the harmony of the ring and wheel patterns, just beautiful.
While I was at it, I took this opportunity to replace the plastic hubs with some aluminum Incision hubs. The wheels come with #4 hubs but I replaced them with some #3 hubs to narrow things up a bit. No stripped hex problems now or ever.
Center caps make wheel removal and installation a pain but just look at that.
How can you say no to that? You can't unless you are a terrible, deeply flawed, irredeemable person. Who knew center caps could bring you to a moment of great personal truth?
Everything just looks so right together.
And one more of the grill.
Man, I love that thing.
So I spent a bunch of money and gained no performance. Yay for smart purchases!
How much did I spend anyway?
What! That's not good.
Knight Customs grill - $37
Knight Customs lenses - $13
Locked Up Orb rings - $24
Locked Up scale hardware - $28
Incision hubs - $20
Total $122
So for the next stage:
$49.01 + ($50-$122) = -$22.99
Well, looks like I'm going to have to get myself DIY-ing for next time. I hope you have enjoyed this installment because I have literally spent all my money for your entertainment. Since I am now poor and on the run from Amain collection agents, you can contribute to this ongoing Honcho effort by sending parts to:
SVT923
Cardboard box under a highway overpass
Somewhere around Raleigh, NC 276 something something
I look forward to your support if I don't die from dysentery.
Goodbye for now (and possibly forever but hopefully not).
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Yes, I know, "what the hell is taking you so long?" Nice to see you too.
Its not like I don't want to work on the Honcho, there is just lots of other things I'm supposed to be doing. I made an incredible flourless chocolate cake for my wife's birthday, I built a table, I caught up on some Dateline reruns (spoiler alert: the husband did it): all very important things that unfortunately cut into Honcho time. Well, I got back to work and here I am so let's go.
You may recall my hugely popular assistant, the budget monkey, from my last post. Well, he's dead. Apparently that happens if you lock animals in cages and don't give them food and water. Oh well, he was weak and left me to do all the work. On a related topic, I am accepting applications for an intern.
So for phase whatever I'm on, the budget is $49.01 carried over + $50 for this phase = $99.01. I'm not going cheap this time.
So you know those great mods that add function and improve durability? I'm getting to exactly none of those type this time around. Its all about vanity this week; pure, unadulterated, all-American vanity. Let's get vain!
Hello there Mr. Honcho Body, so nice to see you. It would be a shame if...
Someone ripped your eyes off!
HA! Now you won't see this coming!
Oh god! The horror!
Now, you may be wondering why I cut off the Honcho's face like Nicolas Cage did to John Travolta in the very appropriately titled classic, Face/Off. Although my first though was to attach it to my face in order to impersonate the Honcho, I decided to take things in another direction. Also, if I just ruined Face/Off for you, that is what you get for not seeing a move that is 21 years old by now.
Those on the smarter end of the reader pool probably have already figured out what is going on but for the rest of you:
Ta-da!
A Knight Customs Honcho grill. This particular version is the 2001-2004 stock grill but there is also the option on a couple 1998-2000 grills. I chose the one I liked the best, no deeper reason here.
At this point, the Knight Customs grill is really a requirement of a Honcho build, it is no longer optional. I'm currently forming some kind of ruling body to preside over all tiny trucks to issue mandates such as this. I'm not saying I have to be president or chairman but at least treasurer. Details are still being worked out.
For those who aren't familiar, all of Knight Custom's stuff is printed through Shapeways. The grill is made up of the main piece printed in nylon and the lenses printed in acrylic. Straight from Shapeways, the lenses come rather opaque but a few coats of Tamiya X-22 clear makes a big difference.
The inside of the light buckets was hit with a Molotow chrome paint pen for some more reflectiveness (not sure that is a word) and the lenses were glued on with some Testors non-fogging glue.
Now when it came to installing the grill, things got interesting. My plan was to glue it in with E6000 for a clean look but I couldn't get the grill to stay aligned in the opening while the glue dried. Every clamp I tried either didn't hold the grill in the right spot or squished the shape of the opening and created terrible, unsightly gaps.
Eventually I said screw it! Literally, I screwed the grill in and everything was better. The M2.5 cap heads will get replaced by button heads whenever I get around to it.
See, no Honcho should be allowed out with out one of those grills. It just looks so much better at this point, but I'm not done yet!
Remember how I said the Incision wheels were compatible with Locked Up rings? Well guess where some more money went.
A full set of Locked Up Orb rings with some accompanying scale hardware was acquired for this very purpose. The Orb rings are basically the soul mate of the Incision plastic wheels because the 6 spoke pattern lines up perfectly with the Orb's design. So very many tiny, tiny screws were installed. Luckily I only have to install them once.
Wheel done.
After all the tiny screws were in, it is still only 6 screws to install the ring so that part went quick. Notice the harmony of the ring and wheel patterns, just beautiful.
While I was at it, I took this opportunity to replace the plastic hubs with some aluminum Incision hubs. The wheels come with #4 hubs but I replaced them with some #3 hubs to narrow things up a bit. No stripped hex problems now or ever.
Center caps make wheel removal and installation a pain but just look at that.
How can you say no to that? You can't unless you are a terrible, deeply flawed, irredeemable person. Who knew center caps could bring you to a moment of great personal truth?
Everything just looks so right together.
And one more of the grill.
Man, I love that thing.
So I spent a bunch of money and gained no performance. Yay for smart purchases!
How much did I spend anyway?
What! That's not good.
Knight Customs grill - $37
Knight Customs lenses - $13
Locked Up Orb rings - $24
Locked Up scale hardware - $28
Incision hubs - $20
Total $122
So for the next stage:
$49.01 + ($50-$122) = -$22.99
Well, looks like I'm going to have to get myself DIY-ing for next time. I hope you have enjoyed this installment because I have literally spent all my money for your entertainment. Since I am now poor and on the run from Amain collection agents, you can contribute to this ongoing Honcho effort by sending parts to:
SVT923
Cardboard box under a highway overpass
Somewhere around Raleigh, NC 276 something something
I look forward to your support if I don't die from dysentery.
Goodbye for now (and possibly forever but hopefully not).
Yikes! You spent 1/3rd the cost of a 3d printer on 3d printed parts lol. These customs folks are making a killing.
svt923
I wanna be Dave
Well, the printer Shapeways uses costs somewhere in the neighborhood of $100-200K. Even if I had the 3D modeling skills to replicate what James can pull off, anything I can crank out on my printer at home isn't going to look as nice.
Bananaclip
I wanna be Dave
I thoroughly enjoy reading your threads. This one is no exception. I really like the Honcho platform and am loving what you have done to yours. The new grill is WoW! I also agree with your taste in tires. The MTR's are recently gaining more interest while being tremendously underrated. How many oz's of lead did you say you added to those wheels???8)
svt923
I wanna be Dave
Thanks, the Honcho has surprised me many times for a RTR chassis and I have high hopes for the MT-Rs. The DC Extreme Country 1.9s I have in the same compound are great with a much shallower, much less aggressive tread, these should be better at everything.
The only correct amount for a build done after 2008. :mrgreen:
2mtech
RCC Addict
That's looking good!
Nice grill, although it kind of reminded me of something earlier and a bit more extraterrestrial than Face/Off
Wheels look perfect!
Sorry to see your current living situation. If I'd known that was you under the bridge at the canoe launch I would've said hi.
Nice grill, although it kind of reminded me of something earlier and a bit more extraterrestrial than Face/Off
Wheels look perfect!
Sorry to see your current living situation. If I'd known that was you under the bridge at the canoe launch I would've said hi.
svt923
I wanna be Dave
Nice grill, although it kind of reminded me of something earlier and a bit more extraterrestrial than Face/Off
Man, Roots must have gotten weird at the end. Guess I should have watched the whole thing.
2mtech
RCC Addict
Chicken George in space :lmao:
Bananaclip
I wanna be Dave
Oooooh... You haven't ran MTR's before. You sir are about to be very impressed. Traction and consistency at its finest. I'm certain you will but I am requested a post run MTR report.
Maybe. I get pretty similar results on my cr-10, which retails around 370. Hes using an SLA printer, hence the cost, but as far as durability they produce about the same strength of parts. Im not hating, just amazed at the costs they are charging people is all. Heck, even the carbon fiber nylonx stuff LOOKS the same as the SLA stuff, but unless its continuous strand carbon fiber its marketing fluff.
I should just put my money where my mouth is and start my own 3d parts business lol!
That grill does make it look a helluva lot better, but then you have the "Axial Lexan disaster strip" at the bottom like on the Cherokee body.
Looking good, still have my OG Honcho body, it was an awesome and very capable truck! Looking forward to your trail reports on the Incision plastic beadlocks and RC4WD MTRs. Those aluminum hubs come with the plastic Incision wheels? They look same size and pattern as the aluminum Incision wheel hubs? The smaller wheels and tires worked awesome on my Honcho, never held it back, looks great here too.
You know that front bumper's gotta go, is that next?
You know that front bumper's gotta go, is that next?
svt923
I wanna be Dave
I have buddies that run a pretty successful 3D printed RC parts company so I trust their judgement on the appropriate use of FDM vs SLS. SLS is still the way they go for their high stress or fine detail parts and they have a fleet of very nice printers working mainly in carbon nylon these days.
No idea on that one, it is close to 15 years old. Probably came from one of those stores at a mall that no longer exists.
Yeah, cutting that was a little sketchy. On the bright side, it tucks behind the grill in the center part. I ended up cutting most of that lip off and the only part that is really left is little part under the headlights.
Looking good, still have my OG Honcho body, it was an awesome and very capable truck! Looking forward to your trail reports on the Incision plastic beadlocks and RC4WD MTRs. Those aluminum hubs come with the plastic Incision wheels? They look same size and pattern as the aluminum Incision wheel hubs? The smaller wheels and tires worked awesome on my Honcho, never held it back, looks great here too.
You know that front bumper's gotta go, is that next?
The plastic Incision wheels come with plastic hubs but they are the same as the aluminum hubs from the aluminum Incision wheels. The aluminum hubs bolt right up.
As for the bumper, I have plans but the stock bumper hasn't been bad after I changed nearly everything about it.
