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SVT's Budget Honcho Build Off Entry

No, they don't. Check again for yourself right here: Axial Racing - SCX10 II
And considering they (3 piece axles) are available as a separate kit right now, nobody's holding anything hostage.

SVT, a fine beginning to a budget build. I will enjoy watching your progress.

Check your own link. "Single piece axle housing" is stated in the verbiage as well as on the one photo.

EDIT: Wait, maybe I'm confusing things. I thought the SCX10 II was originally released with 3-piece axle housings similar to the SSD housings. Am I wrong about that?
 
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Check your own link. "Single piece axle housing" is stated in the verbiage as well as on the one photo.

EDIT: Wait, maybe I'm confusing things. I thought the SCX10 II was originally release with 3-piece axle housings similar to the SSD housings. Am I wrong about that?




Yeah, it's a single piece housing, unlike generation one SCX10's which were two piece. The steering bits and lockouts are separate. The other axles (with everything as one piece) were designed as a lower cost option for RTR's.
 


Yeah, it's a single piece housing, unlike generation one SCX10's which were two piece. The steering bits and lockouts are separate. The other axles (with everything as one piece) were designed as a lower cost option for RTR's.

Sorry, that's my mistake then. For some reason I thought the SCX10 II axle housings were originally 3 pieces (diff/center, right tube, and left tube). I know what you mean about the Honcho housing being one-piece with the knuckles/lockouts built into them. I don't like that design which is why I steered my dad away from the Honcho and towards the Cherokee RTR.
 
I think in scale perspective, the honcho front axle (built in c hubs) are more realistic due to the fact that on a 1.1 rig the c hubs would be welded on(not easily removable) and then you bolt on the knuckles. I personally like those better imo. Although i purchased the ssd pro44 housings for my other build

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The Honcho axle housings have many things going for them: built-in link mounts look cleaner, no potential weak point at the holes for the link mount screws, no lockouts on the rear axles, and no need to worry about the c-hub slipping and changing your caster setting. The very big drawback is the front housing is trash if you break a c-hub.

Should the need arise, I would probably replace the front axle with an old style housing and aluminum c-hubs while the rear would be replaced with another stock housing.
 
Oh, hello there.

I have returned on this fine Tuesday morning to prove lonleycreeper wrong and shove it in his smug face.

There have been multiple accusations that I do not actually drive my trucks.

Well, I do. So there.

That is all.

Proof? Fine.

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I packed up some of my favorite driving companions and headed out for a few hours on the trail. The Bronco is my daughter's and my wife and son handled the driving duties for the TRX4.

While the family was content with just coming along for the hike, I had serious business to attend to: gathering driving impressions for the Honcho.

Right off the bat, I noticed the improved approach angle.

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No way a stock Honcho is pulling that off.

One of those things you can't help but notice is the stock tires just don't generate the grip of a good set of tires.

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Yes the rock is smooth and dusty but the Honcho struggled mightily to get up this. A climb like shows the stock tires really lack the stick factor of the better tires.

However when the rocks had some more grip, the stock Falkens performed acceptably.

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The Honcho made it up without too much tire slip. Makes me wonder if the Nitto tires from the CRC Jeep/Deadbolt would handle this better with their smaller lugs.

This side hill is steep and slippery.

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So having driven here many times before, this is a situation where the Honcho's lightweight shines. A heavy truck will slide down that hill towards that surprisingly deep puddle much quicker because physics. See, 5 lbs of lead weight isn't always the answer.

The bumper mod saves the day yet again.

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This is when you really notice the other significant weakness of the Honcho: the steering servo.

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Are you over your extreme shock of a less than adequate servo in a RTR truck? Ok, I'll give you another minute.

There were a quite a few situations like this where the servo just didn't have the power to turn the wheels mid-obstacle. You basically have to set your front tires up before you start then just throttle through. Not ideal but I managed because I'm fantastic.

This climb was just impressive.

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So I talked about the noticeable effects of the stock tires and servo but know what was completely unnoticeable? The plastic links. On this exact trail, I have seen the plastic links on a OG SCX10 RTR flex so badly that the wheelbase shrunk by about 4 inches. I pretty much forgot I was running plastic links on this truck which is probably the best thing I can say about them.

When you have a truck that you have spent a lot of time and effort modifying, it is easy to forget exactly how capable a RTR truck can be. Also, people are disgusting.

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It was nearing lunch time and the kids were getting hungry so we stopped for lunch. I climbed one last rock and stuck the landing.

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It was left in that position while we ate lunch. You definitely can't do cool things like that with the stock bumper setup.

When I got back to the car and unplugged the battery, I noticed the motor and ESC were not more than slightly warm. That additional gear reduction from the AR44 axles makes life much easier on the electronics.

Overall, I was impressed by a truck that isn't too far from what it is out of the box. Other than the universals, pretty much everything else has been cheap or DIY. Now I have a better idea for the path of future stages.

So there is everything you wanted to know about how the Honcho drives. Any and all questions will be fielded for those who want to know more. Stupid questions will be ignored or mocked.

I will head back to the workbench for phase #4 and lonleycreeper will head back to the drawing board for a new line of smack talk.
 
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Fine morning?? Have you looked outside??

I must humbly submit that, while certainly entertaining, these pictures in no way actually stand as proof that you are, in fact, operating the vehicles depicted in said photographs. ;-)

Nice nose stand, though...I'll give you "props" for that. "thumbsup"
 
Fine morning?? Have you looked outside??

Take the 60* weather, rain or no rain, and be happy because it will be hot and disgusting before we know it.

I must humbly submit that, while certainly entertaining, these pictures in no way actually stand as proof that you are, in fact, operating the vehicles depicted in said photographs. ;-)

How do you know I actually exist?
 
Nice job sir. That front bumper tuck looks like it worked out well.

Never was a fan of Falken tires, real or RC. I sold and mounted tires for 8yrs and Falkens were always cheap and crappy.

Since Axial already has a licensing agreement with Nitto, I wish they would go for a licensed Toyo Open Country AT or MT tire.
 
Very nice. If you can find the R35 Nitto's, you will find that they're better than the stock setup.
 
That's deep, man...that's deep.....

I'm actually really curious to try your front bumper mount mod on my OG Honcho to see if it will work.

I did take 2 semesters of philosophy in college, that basically makes me Socrates and Descartes rolled into one.

The bumper mod should work splendidly on the OG Honcho as well.

Nice job sir. That front bumper tuck looks like it worked out well.

Never was a fan of Falken tires, real or RC. I sold and mounted tires for 8yrs and Falkens were always cheap and crappy.

Since Axial already has a licensing agreement with Nitto, I wish they would go for a licensed Toyo Open Country AT or MT tire.

Super proud of the bumper mod, makes a huge difference.

I'm not a fan of Falkens either. We got a set for my wife's old Honda Fit because there wasn't many options in the needed size and they were toast in under 3k miles. As for the RC versions, the Wildpeaks are better than the Trepadors of the old RTRs but that still doesn't make them good. Maybe we will see more licensed Nittos since Casey Currie is back with them as a sponsor, Mud Grapplers would be sweet.

The bumper mod is awesome.

Indeed.

Very nice. If you can find the R35 Nitto's, you will find that they're better than the stock setup.

Good to know.

I'm still undecided on the next tires for the Honcho; something a little shorter but not any wider than the stock tires in a good compound. Not sure the tire I want actually exists.
 
I'm still undecided on the next tires for the Honcho; something a little shorter but not any wider than the stock tires in a good compound. Not sure the tire I want actually exists.

Sounds like the original Rock Beasts (non-XL) fit the bill.
 
Sounds like the original Rock Beasts (non-XL) fit the bill.

If they were about 1/4 inch narrower then yeah. The OG Proline Swampers are close too.

The Proline KO2s are a great size but not really aggressive enough for my local terrain. I was really hoping the new Proline KM3s would be close in size to the KO2s because that would have been fantastic.
 
If they were about 1/4 inch narrower then yeah. The OG Proline Swampers are close too.

The Proline KO2s are a great size but not really aggressive enough for my local terrain. I was really hoping the new Proline KM3s would be close in size to the KO2s because that would have been fantastic.
What about the 4.19" Hyrax? Too small? Not scale enough?
 
What about the 4.19" Hyrax? Too small? Not scale enough?

It is a consideration, I'll have to mock up some 4.19 tires to see how they look.

I have a few options.

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Buying dozens of tires is decidedly not a budget friendly way of picking a tire size. I do not suggest this method for people trying to stick to the budget.
 
Good news everyone!

I have been watching a lot of Futurama reruns lately, can you tell?

Anyway, we have reached a very special portion of this build thread.

I need input from you, the audience, for the next stage of this fantastic build.

That's right. You, the common reader, get to tell me, the internet RC big shot, your thoughts!

We all know what a Honcho looks like but here is a refresher:

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The question I pose to the gaggle of readers:

4.19 inch tires: Too small or just right?

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