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SVT's Budget Honcho Build Off Entry

Beside the words,check in to a boxing ring,it's well worth it

In the mean time,I am having a good time,rwading your replies.....i have a over 1000 $ shelf queen,more to come in the next period :)))))))))))))
 
Well since the Harley SBG build off is over, can you get started now?

I did get started, I'm very good at that. You read the begining of this thread, it was glorious.

It is the following through that eludes me.

The Honcho has been unpacked though as well as the box containing the parts for many stages of improvements. Expect updates and other hijinks soon now that my competition has quit like the quitters they are. "thumbsup"
 
I did get started, I'm very good at that. You read the begining of this thread, it was glorious.

It is the following through that eludes me.

The Honcho has been unpacked though as well as the box containing the parts for many stages of improvements. Expect updates and other hijinks soon now that my competition has quit like the quitters they are. "thumbsup"

But have you driven it yet?
 
Good, entertaining thread!

I need to learn how to braze even if it's for simple things.

What made you choose a Honcho instead of a more well equipped SCX10 II RTR? If you had started this build today you could have went even more low budget with the SCX10 II Deadbolt RTR that's $299.
 
What made you choose a Honcho instead of a more well equipped SCX10 II RTR? If you had started this build today you could have went even more low budget with the SCX10 II Deadbolt RTR that's $299.

A few things were at play in making my hastily made decision:

1. The Honcho version was new and had a bunch of new parts. I have a SCXII kit version as well so I wanted to do some comparisons between the new stuff on the Honcho and the old stuff. If I don't dig into it, who else will?

2. I have a Cherokee already so I didn't really want another and the Honcho looks better.

3. The RTR Cherokee was also on the shelf of the LHS so it was an option but the only part of significance it has that the Honcho lacks is the universals. The Cherokee cost $50 more while universals are only about $30, math says Honcho.

4. There was a distinct possibility that the Honcho may come with metal trans gears, there are thrills in the unknown.

So the Honcho was the choice.

As for if I would choose the Deadbolt over the Honcho if it was available when I started, probably not based solely on the body. I didn't have a Honcho at the time but did have the SCX10 RTR Deadbolt body and an extra unpainted one, a 3rd Deadbolt body isn't something I really want. However, if part of your build includes changing the body then save yourself the $30 and buy the Deadbolt.
 
A few things were at play in making my hastily made decision:

1. The Honcho version was new and had a bunch of new parts. I have a SCXII kit version as well so I wanted to do some comparisons between the new stuff on the Honcho and the old stuff. If I don't dig into it, who else will?

2. I have a Cherokee already so I didn't really want another and the Honcho looks better.

3. The RTR Cherokee was also on the shelf of the LHS so it was an option but the only part of significance it has that the Honcho lacks is the universals. The Cherokee cost $50 more while universals are only about $30, math says Honcho.

4. There was a distinct possibility that the Honcho may come with metal trans gears, there are thrills in the unknown.

So the Honcho was the choice.

As for if I would choose the Deadbolt over the Honcho if it was available when I started, probably not based solely on the body. I didn't have a Honcho at the time but did have the SCX10 RTR Deadbolt body and an extra unpainted one, a 3rd Deadbolt body isn't something I really want. However, if part of your build includes changing the body then save yourself the $30 and buy the Deadbolt.
Thanks. Good info.

1. What new parts does the Honcho have?

3. $30 universals? I can't say I've ever seen them that low.

4. So does it have metal gears?
 
Both the Honcho and Deadbolt are listed as having plastic transmission gears, however some new Honcho owners have said they've received metal gears.
 
SVT923, Thank you For explaining all the details here. Good read.

I try and succeed overwhelmingly.

Thanks. Good info.

1. What new parts does the Honcho have?

3. $30 universals? I can't say I've ever seen them that low.

4. So does it have metal gears?

1. The one piece axle housings, one piece ring gear/spool, and transmission case were the new parts I was interested in. I was curious about the new plastic links as well.

3. The Hot Racing universals I used on this build were $33.

4. This truck did have metal gears. I don't know how many people have actually gotten the plastic gears, pretty much everyone I have read about have gotten the metal ones.

We apologize that question #2 was regrettably unable to attend due to a scheduling conflict and therefore will not be present tonight ;-)

He will be missed.

Maybe he has high friends in low places...... :lmao:

They are $39.99 on fleaBay.

Well, it was just 4/20. They may be coming back down to reality in a gutter somewhere.

You don't have to look too hard or wait too long for another sale to pop up where you get 15-20% off. You don't even need my incredible connections for those deals.

Both the Honcho and Deadbolt are listed as having plastic transmission gears, however some new Honcho owners have said they've received metal gears.

Only awesome Honcho owners got the metal gears, Axial totally knew who would end up getting them when they were shipped off to assorted hobby shops around the world.

And finally, the moment everyone has been waiting for:

Stage #3 of the SVT Honcho budget build!

We start this week with some money, I forget how much. It doesn't really matter anyway because I have some fun DIY projects for you wonderful people.

How about some inner fenders?

Well, too bad. I'm making some dammit.

Is there anything worse than staring straight through the front fenders of a scale truck? I mean besides war, famine, human trafficking, terminal diseases, pollution, and genocide. Ok, so not having inner fenders isn't that bad but it is somewhere between cheating on your spouse and jaywalking.

So what is the standard go-to for making inner fenders? Storage containers, right? Cheap, ubiquitous, easy to cut, cheap; a fine medium for this craft project. Of course, as you should know by now, I can't just do that. Why not? It bothers me an irrational amount seeing "Ziploc" stamped into the wheel wells of a truck. I want my inner fenders to hide the electronics and keep dirt out of my chassis, not tell me they are recyclable with the milk jugs. Thus an exhaustive search began for appropriate containers.

After much failure in my search, the answer appeared to me in my own kitchen. A quick measurement occurred then I informed my wife we now have 2 less containers and started cutting.

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This was the easy part.

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I really didn't want to mess up the holes on these because there was only one shot to get in right. I made a chassis template to ensure everything was in the right place. I'm so smart.

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Much cutting, test fitting, more cutting, sanding, more test fitting, more cutting, more sanding, another test fitting, more cutting, more sanding, some painting, and boom. Easy as pie: the world's most elaborate and time consuming pie.

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Damn those are fine inner fenders.

I drilled a hole behind the shock towers on both sides of the chassis to simplify mounting. These are made from much thicker plastic than the cheap disposable containers. Kinda like the TRX4 inner fenders.

Would you look at that?

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Nice and smooth, no brand logos, no recycling information, no weird texture pattern that is impossible to get clean. That is how you inner fender.

Notice anything else about that last picture?

Did anyone say tire foams?

If you did, you are wrong. So wrong that a tidal wave of shame should be washing over your soul right now. I really can't overstate how dumb you should be feeling.

The answer is the front bumper.

I came up with this handy little mod to significantly pull the bumper in. If you thought of it before, I don't really care. I put it on the internet in a more amusing fashion so it is mine.

Now that is settled, you can try this on your own Honcho. First, take your front bumper mount off and trim it like this:

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Now, turn it around and reinstall it on the chassis.

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Next trim the back of your bumper to take advantage of the new mounting point. I did this hack job with a pair of side cutters. Feel free to have more pride in your own work and clean it up.

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Now you can reinstall the bumper on the mount.

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Congratulations, you now have a not terrible approach angle.

Does it make a difference? You tell me.

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Actually, I'll tell you but not right now. There is even more ground to cover on mods this week.

The front springs on the Honcho are too stiff for it's light weight. There have been mods where you swap front and rear springs then swap the rear shock towers left to right so the rear shocks get angled forward to soften their feel. Know what is way easier? Buy softer front springs. Brilliant? That is not for me to decide but yes.

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I picked up a set of green Axial springs which are slightly firmer than the rear springs but much softer than the stock front springs. Seems like a good compromise.

We know how to put on springs right? That isn't beyond anyone's level of expertise is it? Fantastic.

Now for the total spend for this stage:

$6.99

That is all. The shock springs were the only thing I bought while making inner fenders, improving approach angle, and softening the suspension. That is a lot of ground to cover for so little money. Hell, I'll even say I spent $15 for the paint and tupperware so let's officially book this week as $21.99.

Since I actually went back and looked, we can now put together our phase #4 budget.

Phase #4 - $78 + ($50 - $21.99) = $106.01

Now that is some baller money: champagne and strippers for everyone!

Later.
 
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1. The one piece axle housings, one piece ring gear/spool, and transmission case were the new parts I was interested in. I was curious about the new plastic links as well.

3. The Hot Racing universals I used on this build were $33.

4. This truck did have metal gears. I don't know how many people have actually gotten the plastic gears, pretty much everyone I have read about have gotten the metal ones.

1. All of the Axials now come with single piece housings and lockers, correct? The Honcho has the "interesting" one-piece, silver trans. I'm interested to hear what you think of it and how the plastic compound compares to their black plastics.

3. Ah Hot Racing. I've never used them. I always put Axial brand unis in Axial rigs.

4. Interesting! I'll have to tell my dad to check his Cherokee RTR before buying metal replacement gears for his trans.
 
Pure creative genius on the hard pink (was scared until I saw them painted) fender wells, and the inverted, countersunk bumper mount as well. Chuck Norris would approve "thumbsup"
 
Pure creative genius on the hard pink (was scared until I saw them painted) fender wells, and the inverted, countersunk bumper mount as well. Chuck Norris would approve "thumbsup"


Agree, some well executed inner genders there.
 
1. All of the Axials now come with single piece housings and lockers, correct? The Honcho has the "interesting" one-piece, silver trans. I'm interested to hear what you think of it and how the plastic compound compares to their black plastics.

3. Ah Hot Racing. I've never used them. I always put Axial brand unis in Axial rigs.

4. Interesting! I'll have to tell my dad to check his Cherokee RTR before buying metal replacement gears for his trans.

1. The Honcho and the Deadbolt have the new axle housings and lockers, don't think any other have them unless there was a running change. I went over the new trans in my 2nd or 3rd post, it is surprisingly solid.

3. Hot Racing is generally solid, their universals seem comparable to the Axial ones but had the huge advantage of being readily available when I needed them.

4. Doesn't hurt to check right? The Axial sintered metal trans gears (AX31585) only sell for $6-7 but I have never actually seen them in stock anywhere. Maybe they tossed them in all their RTRs for a run because they couldn't get the plastic ones made. Who knows.

Pure creative genius on the hard pink (was scared until I saw them painted) fender wells, and the inverted, countersunk bumper mount as well. Chuck Norris would approve "thumbsup"

Thanks.

Chuck did approve. His high five threw me through a wall and separated my shoulder and elbow.

Agree, some well executed inner genders there.

Thanks, the truck may need a male to female adapter and some tranny work in the future.
 
1. The Honcho and the Deadbolt have the new axle housings and lockers, don't think any other have them unless there was a running change. I went over the new trans in my 2nd or 3rd post, it is surprisingly solid.

3. Hot Racing is generally solid, their universals seem comparable to the Axial ones but had the huge advantage of being readily available when I needed them.

4. Doesn't hurt to check right? The Axial sintered metal trans gears (AX31585) only sell for $6-7 but I have never actually seen them in stock anywhere. Maybe they tossed them in all their RTRs for a run because they couldn't get the plastic ones made. Who knows.

1. Yep, even the kit shows one-piece axle housings on Axial's website. It's my guess that the original, 3-piece axle molds are being held hostage by the original molding vendor since Axial/HobbiCo weren't paying their bills.

3. Good to know. Thanks.

4. I didn't know there were sintered versions of the gears. I thought the HD gears were the only ones available. Another good tip. Thanks.
 
1. Yep, even the kit shows one-piece axle housings on Axial's website. It's my guess that the original, 3-piece axle molds are being held hostage by the original molding vendor since Axial/HobbiCo weren't paying their bills.

No, they don't. Check again for yourself right here: Axial Racing - SCX10 II
And considering they (3 piece axles) are available as a separate kit right now, nobody's holding anything hostage.

SVT, a fine beginning to a budget build. I will enjoy watching your progress.
 
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