Gun and knife picture thread!

[JatoTheRipper]

Great info Tim, I will check these out. They give me a good starting point. I was thinking about checking out the gun shop at Cabela's, we have one in Eugene. And thanks for taking the time to put the info together! "thumbsup"
Ernie

You're welcome.

Cabela's will absolutely price gouge you unless you can find the gun you want on sale there. Cabela's is a great place to see and handle guns since they usually have a lot in stock, but you can most likely find better prices elsewhere.

 

[hpiguy]

It all depends on what you're looking for. Cabela's is the same exact price on the new bolt gun I'm buying as everywhere else, because the manufacturer does MAP pricing, which I'm a fan of. It ensures dealers aren't underselling the guns to move them, meaning they don't make as much per unit, and aren't as motivated to sell that brand. It also ensure there's a minimum buyin for the dealer, which motivates the manufacturer to produce more of those guns as they always know what they'll get for each unit produced. But in general, any of the big box stores are not where you'll find deals.

 

[durok]

I'm only chiming in for the interest in firearms technology, as I have not shot since I was in the infantry - but I still occasionally read about weaponry.

Not buying myself unless I move into a house, and even then I'd likely only get a tactical pump shotgun - but here's a really nifty .380 pistol I saw some years ago - designed for concealment in mind:

https://www.taurususa.com/whats-new-the-curve.cfm

Your body has curves, so why aren't pistols shaped to match? The Taurus Curve is the world's first and only curved firearm, engineered to fit the unique contours of your body with no visible printing. An extreme departure from your typical compact .380, you'll find the Curve takes form and function to an entirely unprecedented level. With its patented, snag-free design, the Curve boasts the industry's first-ever light and laser built right into the frame. It attaches with a built in holster-free belt clip. Exceptionally accurate and extremely lightweight at just 10.2 ounces, the Curve is one ultra-comfortable, ultra-reliable personal defense handgun.

Model: 1-180031L
Finish: Black
Status: Available
Caliber: 380 Auto
Grips: Polymer Grips
UPC: 7-25327-61150-9
Capacity: 6 +1
Weight: 13 oz.
Barrel Length: 2.7"
Height: 3.7"
Width: 1.2"
Action: DAO
Front Sight: None
Length: 5.2"
Safety: Magazine Disconnect,Loaded Chamber Indicator
Order #: 1-180031L
MSRP: $392.42
Rear Sight: Bore Axis System

 

[JatoTheRipper]

It all depends on what you're looking for. Cabela's is the same exact price on the new bolt gun I'm buying as everywhere else, because the manufacturer does MAP pricing, which I'm a fan of. It ensures dealers aren't underselling the guns to move them, meaning they don't make as much per unit, and aren't as motivated to sell that brand. It also ensure there's a minimum buyin for the dealer, which motivates the manufacturer to produce more of those guns as they always know what they'll get for each unit produced. But in general, any of the big box stores are not where you'll find deals.

I didn't realize there were gun manufacturers with MAPs. I've never even noticed that.

I'm only chiming in for the interest in firearms technology, as I have not shot since I was in the infantry - but I still occasionally read about weaponry.

Not buying myself unless I move into a house, and even then I'd likely only get a tactical pump shotgun - but here's a really nifty .380 pistol I saw some years ago - designed for concealment in mind:

https://www.taurususa.com/whats-new-the-curve.cfm

Your body has curves, so why aren't pistols shaped to match? The Taurus Curve is the world's first and only curved firearm, engineered to fit the unique contours of your body with no visible printing. An extreme departure from your typical compact .380, you'll find the Curve takes form and function to an entirely unprecedented level. With its patented, snag-free design, the Curve boasts the industry's first-ever light and laser built right into the frame. It attaches with a built in holster-free belt clip. Exceptionally accurate and extremely lightweight at just 10.2 ounces, the Curve is one ultra-comfortable, ultra-reliable personal defense handgun.

Model: 1-180031L
Finish: Black
Status: Available
Caliber: 380 Auto
Grips: Polymer Grips
UPC: 7-25327-61150-9
Capacity: 6 +1
Weight: 13 oz.
Barrel Length: 2.7"
Height: 3.7"
Width: 1.2"
Action: DAO
Front Sight: None
Length: 5.2"
Safety: Magazine Disconnect,Loaded Chamber Indicator
Order #: 1-180031L
MSRP: $392.42
Rear Sight: Bore Axis System

Interesting gun for sure, but it is coming from Taurus. I have no problem with Taurus as I've never owned one, but they do have a spotty reputation. I know my cousin bought a revolver from them and it would blew metal shavings into his face. Taurus took that one back for a long, long time. Not sure if they fixed or replaced it.

I'd be curious how easy or difficult it is to shoot since the grip is curved. Sometimes you don't fix what isn't broken.

 

[hpiguy]

That gun didn't take off because not everyone is right handed, not everyone's hand is curved the same way, and because at the end of the day it's a gimmick that just isn't needed. Also, the built in laser/light eats up valuable real estate for hand placement on a mouse gun (gun lover term to the little pocket handgats :mrgreen. For pocket/backup .380 the Glock 42, or Smith and Wesson bodyguard is tough to beat. I have an original Ruger LCP .380. It's terrible to shoot, and no fun at all, but it does go bang every time. My Glock 43 is only slightly larger, and 9mm, but I love shooting it, and I'm very accurate with it as well.

 

[CODYBOY]

HPD gives some very sound advice. You will get a 1000x different recommendations on brands and caliber. Research is the human thing to do and in this case the best way is to rent range gun. A range gun gives you the best chances of shooting lots of different guns and calibers but for me the best part is it shows how well a gun shoots after 1000's of rounds with little care.



If two people agree that say a S&W MP9 or 40 is the best route but one doesn't like the way it feels in hand, the way your eyes pick up the sights, how well it shoots on paper, under stress, right or left handed, recoil, how easy is it do draw, how easy is it to get into battery, load a mag quickly etc etc. All of that and then some i take into account before purchasing any gun whether it be a handgun or rifle. Just because someone says it is good doesn't mean it will be for you.



Now the most fun part is finding a caliber and gun that you and your wife can shoot. Usually doesn't happen in my experience. You will end up with two. My ex could out shoot me with her 380 vs my 9,40 or 45's. I would rather have her place 8 shots then 2 or 3 if you get me.


Whatever you do DO NOT go for the elephant gun cause it's cool, you brother shoots one or the YT vids says BIG calibers are were it is at. Total nonsense. Start small caliber like 380 and work your way up till it feels right for you. 9 or 40 is were you will likely settle but then again it is whatever feels right to you.

Thanks for the info Mike! I'm processing all of it. "thumbsup"
Ernie

 

[skellyo]

Just got several new toys in the mail today.

Kershaw Blur Tiger Stripe Serrated Tanto
CRKT Windage with Veff Serrations
CRKT Fossil

 

[durok]

I didn't realize there were gun manufacturers with MAPs. I've never even noticed that.



Interesting gun for sure, but it is coming from Taurus. I have no problem with Taurus as I've never owned one, but they do have a spotty reputation. I know my cousin bought a revolver from them and it would blew metal shavings into his face. Taurus took that one back for a long, long time. Not sure if they fixed or replaced it.

I'd be curious how easy or difficult it is to shoot since the grip is curved. Sometimes you don't fix what isn't broken.

Interestingly enough, that particular oddball 380 is Made In The USA, whereas all or much of Taurus's other weapons are made in Brazil.

Perhaps in response to this information (from Wikipedia)?

"Nine of their more popular models manufactured between 1997-2013 have been issued a voluntary recall in 2015. This is around one million pistols and includes the following models.

PT-111 Millennium
PT-132 Millennium
PT-138-Millennium
PT-140 Millennium
PT-145 Millennium
PT-745 Millennium
PT-609
PT-640
PT-24/7
A class action settlement has also been agreed to which amounts to almost 39 million dollars due to the defective models"

OUCH!

 

[high plains drifter]

Fwiw- The G2 that I recommended Ernie consider, is not on the recall list and I still feel that it is worth looking into as an inexpensive and reliable 9mm. There certainly are better handguns out there but this is a decent gun that I have no problem suggesting to a potential new owner.

 

[hpiguy]

Ever since getting a taste of the long range stuff at the new hunting property last year, the gears have been turning. I was tempted to build up my old Remington 788 my Dad gave back to me last Christmas, that I originally bought for him. But it's just not an action worth dumping the money into. So I did tons of research and reading, and finally placed an order yesterday. Went over to the neighbors today, and it was already there.

Tikka T3X CTR in .308win. Butter smooth bolt action, excellent adjustable trigger that breaks like glass, stock feels great and is adjustable, etc. Should be a shooter too, guaranteed 3 shot sub MOA groups or send it back.

My scope isn't slated to ship until mid July, and the wait is going to be BRUTAL! :lmao: Still gotta decide on rings and other stuff. This will be a combination long range deer gun, and long range hole punch for paper. I can't wait to get it done, and head back down to GA where I can let it stretch it's legs.

 

[JatoTheRipper]

What red dots do you guys run on handguns? I would like to get an inexpensive red dot for my Ruger 22/45 to play around with. Not sure I'd keep it on there. The Vortex Viper is on sale for $179, but it seems silly to do that when the gun itself was only $100 more. I know some cheap optics suck, but this is a 22.

 

[cmbscx10]

What red dots do you guys run on handguns? I would like to get an inexpensive red dot for my Ruger 22/45 to play around with. Not sure I'd keep it on there. The Vortex Viper is on sale for $179, but it seems silly to do that when the gun itself was only $100 more. I know some cheap optics suck, but this is a 22.

I know you don't do Amazon but others I am sure sell it. I almost bought this for my 2240 instead of my scope. Reviews on multiple sights read like a EOTech knockoff. I can't afford or need a high $$ red dot but For the $$ I would have no problem running it on my 22/45 as the recoil is similar to my Airgun.

https://www.amazon.com/DD-DAGGER-DEFENSE-substitute-holographic/dp/B00ZM3TMO0/ref=pd_sbs_200_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00ZM3TMO0&pd_rd_r=KZWSAV3CGDN30FBZHDT0&pd_rd_w=e64Qh&pd_rd_wg=YYXSl&psc=1&refRID=KZWSAV3CGDN30FBZHDT0

 

[JatoTheRipper]

I know you don't do Amazon but others I am sure sell it. I almost bought this for my 2240 instead of my scope. Reviews on multiple sights read like a EOTech knockoff. I can't afford or need a high $$ red dot but For the $$ I would have no problem running it on my 22/45 as the recoil is similar to my Airgun.

https://www.amazon.com/DD-DAGGER-DEFENSE-substitute-holographic/dp/B00ZM3TMO0/ref=pd_sbs_200_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00ZM3TMO0&pd_rd_r=KZWSAV3CGDN30FBZHDT0&pd_rd_w=e64Qh&pd_rd_wg=YYXSl&psc=1&refRID=KZWSAV3CGDN30FBZHDT0

I do my best to avoid Amazon, but I will buy from them when they are the best or only option.

I have something very similar to that from TruGlo on my M&P 15-22. I'm looking for something with more of a "reflex" look like a Vortex Viper/Venom, etc.

There are similar reflex optics from Ade on Amazon and eBay that people rave about, but I have a hard time believing it since they are under $50 depending on the model.

 

[cmbscx10]

F yeah HPI. Not really into long range long guns and never heard of Tikka but wow the specs are impressive. A modern gun should should sub MOA all day long even with a sh*t scope or sights. Maybe I'm just being picky though.

 

[hpiguy]

F yeah HPI. Not really into long range long guns and never heard of Tikka but wow the specs are impressive. A modern gun should should sub MOA all day long even with a sh*t scope or sights. Maybe I'm just being picky though.

Thanks, I appreciate it. Sako makes the Tikka guns, they've both been around a long time. They're made in Finland.

Yeah, that's not how it works, but it sure would be nice if it did. :mrgreen: Big box store guns (think Walmart) aren't made to be sub MOA guns. They're made to attract the Fudds with a low low price including a scope for $299 + tax. So they're quickly made and assembled so they can move all of them they can. Unfortunately, like all things in life, good things aren't cheap, and generally cheap things aren't that good. Precision made things come with a price tag, and probably a bigger price tag if that precision is guaranteed.

Optics are just like camera lenses, you get what you pay for. If you'll never shoot over 100yds, el cheapos are just fine for most people so long as they'll withstand the recoil of what it's being mounted to, and you don't mind the other issues that come with most cheap optics (not all are bad). The old rule I was taught has always been to spend as much (or more) on the optic as you do the weapon it's being mounted to. Again, not a hard set rule, but for long range stuff, I can tell you that cheap stuff falls way short.

 

[Brake Weight]

I didn’t realize Tikka was a Sako product. Howa makes some nice and often overlooked rifles as well.

 

[durok]

I've been bizarrely fascinated with this lately, the Evanix Rex Air Rifle:

https://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Evanix_Rex_Air_Rifle/4049

Also available as a pistol:

https://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Evanix_Rex_P_Air_Pistol/4050

Available in 0.22, 0.25, 0.357, 0.45 calibers (!!!), single-shot airgun... :shock:

Be a fun target gun.

They are LOUD, though - about as loud as a .22 firearm!

 

[hpiguy]

^^Evanix makes some seriously nice PCP airguns. I've lusted over a couple of their models for a while now.

I didn’t realize Tikka was a Sako product. Howa makes some nice and often overlooked rifles as well.

Yep, not sure if it's always been that way, but I'd imagine so since they're both in Finland.

Howa was actually on my short list, as was Bergara. Bergara was eliminated because the guns have a couple of Achilles heels. But, they've been building high end barrels for years now, that are highly regarded. But only recently started making complete weapons. So I'd chalk it up to teething problems, and I fully expect they'll solve those problems and have a very solid rifle lineup in a few years.

Howa from my research tend to be solid, and great shooters. But from my research if you do have a problem, good luck. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think they only do barreled actions and put them in other manufacturers stocks, like Hogue, KRG, etc.

 

[JatoTheRipper]

Optics are just like camera lenses, you get what you pay for. If you'll never shoot over 100yds, el cheapos are just fine for most people so long as they'll withstand the recoil of what it's being mounted to, and you don't mind the other issues that come with most cheap optics (not all are bad). The old rule I was taught has always been to spend as much (or more) on the optic as you do the weapon it's being mounted to. Again, not a hard set rule, but for long range stuff, I can tell you that cheap stuff falls way short.

I've heard that rule too, but this is a 22 pistol that I won't shoot more than 25 yards. I'm still torn. If I get a Vortex Viper or Venom like I'm leaning towards I could switch that to a 9mm if I decided to do so in the future.

I've been bizarrely fascinated with this lately, the Evanix Rex Air Rifle:

https://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Evanix_Rex_Air_Rifle/4049

Also available as a pistol:

https://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Evanix_Rex_P_Air_Pistol/4050

Available in 0.22, 0.25, 0.357, 0.45 calibers (!!!), single-shot airgun... :shock:

Be a fun target gun.

They are LOUD, though - about as loud as a .22 firearm!

Sig Sauer has a line of air rifles that are incredible in terms of look and feel. I've never shot one. But they feel like a real gun.

 

[hpiguy]

I've heard that rule too, but this is a 22 pistol that I won't shoot more than 25 yards. I'm still torn. If I get a Vortex Viper or Venom like I'm leaning towards I could switch that to a 9mm if I decided to do so in the future.



Sig Sauer has a line of air rifles that are incredible in terms of look and feel. I've never shot one. But they feel like a real gun.

I get that, I really do. But on a handgun, I wouldn't want a big heavy tube style red dot. I'd want an RMR, or an RMR footprint sized red dot. Just my opinion though. Most of the ones I've looked at, even the knockoffs like Vortex are $200 + dollars.

Airguns have come a long way since we were kids man. Both my PCP guns are very well made, and feel like firearms.