USRCCA adds another class!

[JohnRobHolmes]

Maybe's the rule committe felt there were enough MOA designs out there. It was a landslide, there were maybe three areas that wanted MOA in the class (including myself) and the rest voted shafty.


I don't think building the class around the Losi is crazy at all. The only measurement that was taken directly was the Wheelbase anyway, so it is hardly basing it around the Losi specifically. I think the measurements are perfect because it forces a new class with new parts and a TOTALLY new size.

Have you ever driven a Losi by chance? They are worlds apart from anything else out there right now. Reaction time has to be so quick to catch em if it starts to fall. I think a new class should be as different as possible, as we already have a semi mod (2.2) and a full mod (super) class.

 

[Rat1]

I think there are enough classes that already allow the use of MOA. That and most of the MOA type rigs can easily be put into the 2.2 class.

Also like already stated, it is hard to have a rule for no dig etc when the rigs have MOA.

This nex class is going to be great for beginners that are not looking to dump tons of money into a rig to compete.

This hobby needed a shafty only class with no dig setups etc anyway and this is just the ticket.

Now if they could just modifiy the trackwidth rule slightly so TLT axles could be more easily used with out heavy modifications to the housings or tires to keep them from being at the very limits of being within the rules.

Also a slightly longer wheel base would be nice, but.

 

[sloppy]

I agree that a 1.9 class is needed but, building the rules around the losi is crazy. I do realize that axial and a couple other companies are coming out with similar sized trucks. Why not open the class up a little more to help make it a builders class. Also, the no moa's is like punishing companies for pushing the limits. What would 2.2 or super be like if we didnt allow MOA, we would be stuck with just axial,wk's or cc01 (current production) we wouldnt have the CC, the Berg, clods, bullies, or HR ax10 conversions. Thats actually more moa styles than DS axles...

TLT axles are still in production check tower ship in october just the axles. also have F350 axles, twin force axles(it could be done) all of the rc4wd shafted axles, emaxx, X-factor, PTI, and TXT.. there not all good options but there are more shafted options then MOA.. and I bet I missed a few shafted axles
sounds like this class was designed with a novice in mind not a "builder" which is good we now have a ladder for people to climb..

Now if they could just modifiy the trackwidth rule slightly so TLT axles could be more easily used with out heavy modifications to the housings or tires to keep them from being at the very limits of being within the rules.

Also a slightly longer wheel base would be nice, but.

tlt axles do not need any mods to fit within the rules.. you just need the right wheels..

 

[JohnRobHolmes]

you just need the right wheels..

Exactly. A wheel upgrade and whammo, 1.9 class specs with a TLT axle.

 

[dieselfuel]

hey JRH, what tires are you gonna run to keep it within the width specs? im mocking up my 1.9 now and im really leaning towards the 1/10th truck rear step pin inda tires like some of the utah guys are running on the losi rigs.

 

[666]

Thought I would throw this out there. I have 3 sets of axles here that I can run in this class. Not including my Losi.

TLT 7 1/2"
PTI 8"
Poulson 7 3/4" :twisted:

 

[JohnRobHolmes]

I'm not decided on tires yet. Probably gonna cut up last seasons losi claws and see how they do. Mini pins would work well though.

Poulson axles!

 

[Harley]

I'm not decided on tires yet. Probably gonna cut up last seasons losi claws and see how they do. Mini pins would work well though.

Poulson axles!

Probably a much better application then they are in the 2.2 class.

Nice thinking, I have heard people talk about building a Poulson style axle out of RC18T stuff for this class.

 

[PROTOTYPE]

Thought I would throw this out there, Poulson 7 3/4" :twisted:

I dont like the losi crawler , But this will be my axle based crawler in the 1.9 class. ;-)

 

[Culetto]

Probably a much better application then they are in the 2.2 class.

Nice thinking, I have heard people talk about building a Poulson style axle out of RC18T stuff for this class.

Saw a couple 1.9 rigs in St George with the mini poulsons, very trick stuff but im way to hard on my axles for those. :lol:

 

[TwistedCreations]

So everyone measuring these TLT axles under 8", is that measuring outside of tire to outside of tire......or are you measuring just to the outside of the wheel?

 

[JohnRobHolmes]

outside of tires. HPI slot car wheels and some RC4wd rock crushers on mine right now. I could see CVDs causing trouble.

 

[shrek]

are there any 1.9 beadlocks out there that will work on tlt axles to keep it in the 8" rule thanks.

 

[JohnRobHolmes]

I bet yes. Most of the 1.9's are made for narrow track width.

 

[Kamikaze]

You guys crack me up saying this is an entry level class, that people won't have to spend alot on to be competitave, then in the same breath are talking about polusion axles and custom made axles..........

I drove a bone stock losi, then drove a tricked out one. These will be $800 trucks just like the 2.2 class.

 

[billet works]

You guys crack me up saying this is an entry level class, that people won't have to spend alot on to be competitave, then in the same breath are talking about polusion axles and custom made axles..........

I drove a bone stock losi, then drove a tricked out one. These will be $800 trucks just like the 2.2 class.

No doubt Kami, as soon as you see the potential and start playing with upgrades they are no different than any other crawler. Spec classes are cool but typically in rc, they don't last long.

 

[jetboat]

you could add pti axles in there as fitting also.

My biggest complaints on the class is that it does seem to try to be a spec class without coming out and saying it. If they want a spec class, make it a spec class. Also it doesnt follow along with rules that were being ran at the local level by many clubs. No DIG and the short Wb are allot more restrictive than I have seen at any club. Most I know of were running a 10-10.5" wb and allowed dig. No MOA, not a big deal for me personally, I just feel that it limits companies from producing a vehicle that is innovative. I do understand people wanting to keep it realistic and for years there has been a group wanting MOA out of 2.2. Currently all my trucks have shafts so Im not making the point for my own benifit.

I have driven the losi and I know what its like, if I wasnt so focused on getting my BTA's up in production I would pick one up. The small size does change things greatly.

 

[TwistedXT]

the only difference between the 1.9 class and the 2.2 class is that the screws are smaller and easier to loose...

 

[difflocker]

You guys crack me up saying this is an entry level class, that people won't have to spend alot on to be competitave, then in the same breath are talking about polusion axles and custom made axles..........

I drove a bone stock losi, then drove a tricked out one. These will be $800 trucks just like the 2.2 class.

IMO...this is what makes CRAWLING so interesting....the stuff members brew in their garages are pretty cool!!! I have learned a lot from this site"thumbsup"

With a new set of rules, comes a whole bunch of new products...I cannot wait and see what else comes out! It will get expensive though!!!

A SPEC 2.2 or 1.9 class would be cool....just like a novice class in all other areas of the hobby.

 

[sloppy]

So everyone measuring these TLT axles under 8", is that measuring outside of tire to outside of tire......or are you measuring just to the outside of the wheel?

outside of tire. hpi stock cars or AE TC4 wheels both work... I am sure there are others..

and yes there is a beadlock out there that works... "thumbsup"