What if we said this. Weighted knuckles must be of an integral weighted design. If the knuckle can still function with the weighted portion removed, it is not legal with the external weights attached. 8)
For me, I wouldnt even mind something completely open that leaves you guys plenty of room to work. Something like:
"All parts much appear scale in nature. (insert name/group) will be the judge and the jury. Please check with him/us before committing to installing/producing any parts".
Doing something like that does not allow me to read the rules, make me believe that I am following them and then figure out differently.
That's why we are willing ok these. We LISTENED to what was brought up. "thumbsup"
I couldnt agree more towards the above statement. You guys have been the easiest group of people to talk to. "thumbsup"
I meant that I wouldn't want to see the large, bolt-on, over the knuckle style of comp weights. I honestly see nothing wrong with yours for either U4RC or Scale rules, but that's Tim's call.
So is the biggest hiccup for these, the fact that they are made of brass? If they were aluminum, would there still be an issue? If VP machined up a set of their AR knuckles in brass, would they not be allowed?
Fo sho. That was the clarification that I needed. I wouldnt even have brought anything up if I thought it was about my bolt on weights that go over a knuckle. I am far from a scale sort of guy but I dont think they match or look anywhere near natural on a "scale" car.
I am not sure how many have actually looked into my knuckles but brass is only one version. They also come in 7075 aluminum and Delrin. This was another part I didnt understand as the point is no longer about a knuckle "weight" when they are made out of these materials as they are obviously too light to serve that purpose.
Just to add..... the slug holes are also optional and I think 90% or so that were made for scale type cars are not getting that option.
I personally wouldn't mind having a set of these that are all aluminum. HINT!
I would have to work on the arms being aluminum but see above for the body...
The issue is the potential for "non-scale" crescent moon comp style weights. The knuckles you presented clearly fit within the rules of U4RC just fine. This IS a scale "based" series and in our opinion big weights hanging out the bottom of a front axle is taking U4RC in the wrong direction for it's scope of intention.
Again to be clear for everyone. The issue is not the actual weights or weighting of the axle. The issue is the "visual aspect".[/COLOR]
Perfect! I dont think you could have explained it better here. I totally see what youre looking for now. I think there was a lot of confusion on my part and I think its hard to know my product 100% so there may have been some confusion on your side too(?).
I apologize if I stirred anybody up or hurt any feelings. I am sure this conversation would have been discussed in a really positive manner if we met in a restaurant over beers and much, much easier for both sides to understand. I appreciate everybody's willingness to go over the issue and hear my side. I think this speaks volumes for the group and the series and I dare say..... after seeing how you conduct business..... it actually makes me much less bitter about the "scale" scene and I could see myself participating in a U4RC event. "thumbsup"