Was gifted Powerhobby grabber tires for my vanquish, can you recommend me inserts for these?

[HouseFeces]

Wife got me power hobby grabber tires in 1.9 on Amazon. I saw it in the order history and I think she knew as I had them in my save for later list.

I have been mostly using vanquish stance tires I bought off eBay after I built my vrd. When it comes to inserts, I do need a bit of help as I’m lost at this point. Everyone has suggested me to get soft 1.9 3D printed inserts what brand and design, I do not know. My vrd is has reduced weight I don’t even have the sliders or many of the braces installed anymore.

You guys have any suggestions for inserts for the powerhobby grabbers in 1.9”? I don’t trail, I 100% crawl and really only crawl on hardlines since I like the challenges, usually dry clean rocks or areas. The stance tires are nice but I found they kind of fold against me and roll when it comes to side hilling. Any suggestions on 3D printed inserts. Thankful for the help.

 

[hnoroian]

What do you have in there right now?

 

[JatoTheRipper]

I'm still a proponent of foams. Granted, I haven't tried 3D printed inserts, but they are so overpriced if you buy them. And I can't see most of them not being bouncy.

The Grabbers are 120mm tall so the typical 4.75" inserts from Proline or Vanquish would work. You can also contact Crawler Innovations (CI) and see what he would recommend. They also have a "Foam Calc" to help you select the correct foams. CI has way more options than Proline or Vanquish.

Foam Calc

crawlerinnovations.com

 

[HouseFeces]

I'm still a proponent of foams. Granted, I haven't tried 3D printed inserts, but they are so overpriced if you buy them. And I can't see most of them not being bouncy.

The Grabbers are 120mm tall so the typical 4.75" inserts from Proline or Vanquish would work. You can also contact Crawler Innovations (CI) and see what he would recommend. They also have a "Foam Calc" to help you select the correct foams. CI has way more options than Proline or Vanquish.

Foam Calc

crawlerinnovations.com

This is a good source. I’ve had 3D printed inserts before and they were good at side hilling but I couldn’t get the right softness for grip most were so firm they didn’t grip anything well. So I also lean towards foams. I wondered what others were using.

What do you have in there right now?

I have stock vanquish stance tires I got off eBay for my vrd carbon. I have tried proline bfg krawlers with the stock foam it has and preferred stance tires they were notably tackier and softer, they just gripped better. The 4.75 jconcept tusks I have are good but the stock foam is way to firm I didn’t like it at all.

 

[ferp420]

if your trying to build a ultra light and plan to compete you might want foams othewise 3d printed are the way to go and depending on what inserts you use there not that much heavyer than foams and are way cheaper than ci foams and last longer and are more consistent

 

[hnoroian]

Might try Hair/bath scrunchies/loofas for the light weight rigs.

 

[HouseFeces]

if your trying to build a ultra light and plan to compete you might want foams othewise 3d printed are the way to go and depending on what inserts you use there not that much heavyer than foams and are way cheaper than ci foams and last longer and are more consistent

Do you have recommendation? I'll try them out and wouldn't mind and extra set of inserts. I know of one 3d printed inserts maker called roboslugrc that has many different variations. Only 3d brand I'm familiar with for 1.55 and 1.9 inserts on a mini capra but i built it so light it didn't matter.

Might try Hair/bath scrunchies/loofas for the light weight rigs.

I would have never thought of that. I would say it's a lightweight vrd carbon. The transmission/motor still pretty heavy but I plan on keeping them. I really like the way crawlers drive 65f 35r on a lighter scale. Max out the steering to drift angles and that's where my builds are currently at. I think I have a good direction on my inserts.

I'm still a proponent of foams. Granted, I haven't tried 3D printed inserts, but they are so overpriced if you buy them. And I can't see most of them not being bouncy.

The Grabbers are 120mm tall so the typical 4.75" inserts from Proline or Vanquish would work. You can also contact Crawler Innovations (CI) and see what he would recommend. They also have a "Foam Calc" to help you select the correct foams. CI has way more options than Proline or Vanquish.

Foam Calc

crawlerinnovations.com

I emailed Crawler Innovations. I'll also try the 3D printed inserts for kicks. I have 2 vrd carbons. One for indoor and one for outdoor. Exact same setup. The indoor vrd stays clean and looking brand new and gets no apparent wear and tear. I find on my indoor crawler every tire sticks to nearly everything. Outdoors, it's a whole different world especially when wet which is common where I'm at.

 

[Col_Sanders]

I've tried several different 3d printed inserts. Some do bounce worse than others. Feels like a good set of foams gives a bit better traction than any 3d printed insert that I have tried, but sidehilling is significantly better on printed inserts. DLux just released some foams for 4.75" tires that they claim fixes the sidehilling problem. I plan on giving them a try.

I have run several sets of BAMFs. Super soft single shore up front and super soft dual shore out back has been my best setup with Tusks. The dual shores are a bit more bouncy than singles. He sometimes changes his designs so I have some that are softer than others. Also he has different fitments for different tires but they are not spelled out on his page. Some give an air gap, some dont.

YZZR...I screwed up and ordered what he recommended, which was soft/medium. Should have gotten super soft/soft. The order experience sucked. Took about 2 months IIRC and there was no communication. Material seemed to get a bit harder in the cold. Two distinct stages, which I like.

3 Brothers V2s...They take a bit to break in. Bouncy at first and a bit firm, but once they break in they soften up and dont seem to bounce. Mine are not fully broken in, but they do good. My buddy has been running them a lot more and he likes them a lot.

I've also got some Squids I'll post about later.

 

[HouseFeces]

I've tried several different 3d printed inserts. Some do bounce worse than others. Feels like a good set of foams gives a bit better traction than any 3d printed insert that I have tried, but sidehilling is significantly better on printed inserts. DLux just released some foams for 4.75" tires that they claim fixes the sidehilling problem. I plan on giving them a try.

I have run several sets of BAMFs. Super soft single shore up front and super soft dual shore out back has been my best setup with Tusks. The dual shores are a bit more bouncy than singles. He sometimes changes his designs so I have some that are softer than others. Also he has different fitments for different tires but they are not spelled out on his page. Some give an air gap, some dont.

YZZR...I screwed up and ordered what he recommended, which was soft/medium. Should have gotten super soft/soft. The order experience sucked. Took about 2 months IIRC and there was no communication. Material seemed to get a bit harder in the cold. Two distinct stages, which I like.

3 Brothers V2s...They take a bit to break in. Bouncy at first and a bit firm, but once they break in they soften up and dont seem to bounce. Mine are not fully broken in, but they do good. My buddy has been running them a lot more and he likes them a lot.

I've also got some Squids I'll post about later.

Thank a lot. I have a lot of options to through.

 

[HouseFeces]

Note: The power hobby grabbers(4.72") 1.9 are smaller than the stock stance tires(4.75"). The actually difference in the specs isn't apparent but grabbers are nearly 1/4" smaller than the stance.

JConcepts Tusks to rescue. I already got the inserts so looking forward to TUSKS. The megalithics were a close second.