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Optic Kit Coming
- Thread starter smog
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The hair...Its awful.To be fair, have you seen the women YouTubers that are "into RC"?
When you're ugly like me, you can judge right?!I'm dying.......You done said the quiet part out loud......
Agreed. I would say it is not a popular decision. I have a feeling I will get a certain fugly color that is the color of my second-least-favorite motorcycle brand. There are really only 3 of the 6 colors that look good to me. The 7th mystery carbon fiber panels are amazing! There's nothing cooler than carbon fiber! I don't think I could put them on and scratch them on the rocks though.
I'm considering that, but it's an additional $56.97! Bummer the Meus cage was limited and is now sold out!I just ordered the grey cage pieces
It's hard to know if I want a different color cage until I receive my body panels and livery. I can't even order wheels or shocks until I have the panels.Cool! You ordered direct as well. AMain allows a $30 off coupon. It's the only place I've found that has the preorder and allows coupons. I'm tempted to order a second there and see which ships first...
I noticed that too. It's a fail, especially with the optional HWO (Jeep) grille. Even the light cage version comes with a black grille. Makes no sense. It drives me crazy that Vanquish has them listed as "Grills". We are not cooking with these toys...
Painting black over color panels will get you skittles color scratches though...
You're completely missing the point and I can't believe you're siding with the company selling a $390 kit. It obviously was not a popular decision to add this gamble to the kit. With RTRs you can at least choose your color and with kits you can paint the body the color you like even if you aren't in love with the body. I'd rather them not include the "body", reduce the kit $30 and allow me to purchase the color I want. Their idea of trading is ******* stupid since shipping prices are crazy high these days.
Awesome! Glad to have you back!
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truublue
Newbie
Agreed. Random panels are a great idea as a fun promo, maybe save some $$$ or you get it earlier or something, in return for giving up your right as a customer paying almost 400 bucks to choose.
However, to do it for every kit sold seems like an easy way to annoy a large group of your customer base entirely due to random chance. It is way too big a hassle to "just trade" the way they suggest with logistics being what it is in 2024.
It doesn't make sense to me that they would risk so much of their substantial customer goodwill to "have some fun." Makes me wonder if they had issues producing similar QTYs of panels in the different color options, and/or maybe licensing requirements. This would be an easy way to control that supply without having to show your hand inventory-wise.
svt923
I wanna be Dave
To be fair, what is the alternative that makes everyone happy?
Reuse the RTR panels = People complain the kit version isn't unique
Everyone gets black/white panels = People complain about that color
Don't include panels = People complain you have to buy something separately
Make 6 different kits = Small company has to deal with stock levels on 6 different SKUs
Random panels = People complain they didn't get their preferred color
I would guess any option creates a substantially equal amount of annoyance.
89Industries
Quarry Creeper
Good point, it doesn't seem like they are going to make everyone happy no matter what they do.
I'm surprised the kit didn't include clear, unpainted panels like other kits. I feel like for many people, the color and graphics customization is a big reason to build a kit rather than buy RTR stuff. Even for me and I kind of hate painting.
Also after watching the SBG build of the kit and seeing that the graphics are all just stickers on top of painted panels I wouldn't be as concerned. The graphics are the ugly part to me. The solid colors they chose are all manageable. Even the green.
That said, I won't be getting one of these, at least not right now as I've committed my dollars to other projects.
Also I'm not a fan of the steering setup. Going to all that trouble to make something look scale but not function scale seems ridiculous. I would like to have seen the servo control the steering shaft that goes through the bushing tube on the axle directly (like the hydraulic ram on a real buggy would be the driving force), rather than just going to the hub like every other RC truck.
The aspect of this luck-of-the-draw release I find most intriguing is these carbon fibre panels. Apparently their value is such that they themselves could pay for the kit. There is little doubt in my mind I would sell them for this very reason. I couldn't imagine wanting to endure the sinking feeling of shredding them on the rocks
The panels are not painted. They're molded abs.
truublue
Newbie
Good points. The kit will also stay in stock longer when all the supply for the different options differentiating the kits cannot be specifically selected.
I think that this was maybe a way to get the different licensed liveries to work with the hard plastic panels. Seems to me that VP wanted to have the brand synergy out of the box or couldn't make the hard panels work in clear so well. Add in the fact that they are a relatively small company as you mentioned and juggling those SKUs would not have been ideal, and this random chance thing makes sense.
I'd be interested to see what the rough percentages of the different panel options are once distributed. Could offer more clues re: potential cost differences between the different colors and liveries that may also be driving this choice. I would not be surprised to see that black VP livery show up more than the others...
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89Industries
Quarry Creeper
Ok, then I'm surprised they didn't just include basic neutral color panels requiring painting akin to the clear body many kits come with.
Exactly. People were going to complain no matter what. Boring color options, your favorite color is out of stock, you don't like the decals with a certain color, different color cage would be better... there is no winning.
I think that's a copout excuse. You're never going to make everyone happy, but there are many companies that manage to make most customers happy with their body and/or color choices. Traxxas and even Redcat seem to manage it. It's not that difficult to make a good-looking rig. It would have been even simpler to accomplish that with this rig since the body panels aren't complex at all. Clear, paintable Lexan body panels would have suited most people. It is easy to make a bad-looking rig and they nailed that on half of the colors and livery options.
They have to deal with multiple part numbers for the varying color kits anyway! There would be no way to sell these items separately which Brandon said is going to happen. And there has to be a way to track the various colored panels and decal sheets in BOMS unless they do something completely random and leave it up to the supplier which I have never seen in real-world manufacturing from mom-and-pop companies to worldwide, multi-billion-dollar corporations.
It's not completely random because on the livestream last night, Josh or Brandon stated that if you bought a case of 6 then you would receive 1 of each color with the possibility of a mystery carbon fiber edition. Somebody somewhere is tracking this stuff. Tracking it without separate part numbers? Seems impossible.
This did create an annoyance to those that should matter most - paying customers.
But you can aim for the majority...
Agreed. Clear Lexan panels would have made complete sense. Yes, this despite the fact that the RTR panels are molded in color. Offer the colored sets as options, but start us with clear.
I also suggested something like the Castle Creations programming card system where you receive a coupon in the box and then claim your panels of choice after purchase. Shipping is the fly in this plan, but that is also what makes their trading idea terrible.
I agree with having concern about the steering and have mentioned it from the start. The housing is a wear item. There's no way around this.
Same here. Carbon fiber is my favorite material so I'd be torn what to do with them. They are going to fetch insane prices though - definitely more than even the RTR H10 if people know what they have.
But they could have made them Lexan for the kit like the Bomber, Capra, etc. Including other upgrades instead of hard panels would have pacified most of the people IMO.
On the livestream last night, Josh or Brandon stated that if you order a case of 6, you will get one of each color while still having the chance at the mystery carbon fiber edition.
Agreed. Dyable white would have been great. Or Lexan as mentioned above.
Again, you can satisfy the majority. The funny part is all the people complaining about us that don't like this decision. That is still complaining!
He's a liar! They did this because all the YouTuber buddies hyped up the RTR so we "all" went and bought one now they are doing the same with kit. They shouldn't have brought the kit to the rc show in Vegas if the leak was really that big of a deal.
I'm considering that, but it's an additional $56.97! Bummer the Meus cage was limited and is now sold out!
Could probably easily sell the black cage for $60, luckily I have a new set of vanquish 105s in black should look good with almost any livery. Damn I really hope I don't get the orange or red set.
I hear ya. We take prototypes or unannounced products to trade shows frequently to show our dealers and reps in advance, but no photos are ever allowed. We do this to get feedback and orders written for the following year. But you never allow photos or video.
This tells me that neither party take this all too seriously. VP is in a tremendous position in the industry, and they have plenty of leeway to play fast and loose with their cards. I don't see anyone closing the gap on them any time soon, so for the most part I think this is all sheeets and grins at the moment.
They will for sure sell a bunch of kits, and many will end up with both the RTR and kit. I don't think they can loose in this situation any which way it plays out. Look at what those goofy HTech aluminum panels are selling for, and yet they sell them. To me, sub $400 is a deal for this truck and they are undercharging by quite a bit. The market will pay it; it always does. Col Sanders said it on the panels; what's $30 when most everyone will have $700 into this truck right away.?
I'm gonna wait for portals. They will do it at some point; it's not if but really when. Just like this kit.
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I deff have no problem spending $30 for the panels I want
Which RC show is this? I am asking for the name of it.
Well let me know what you get and I will hit you up first if I am unhappy and we may be able to trade if you are open to it.
$300 to walk in. Comical. I was gonna check it out, but passed on that door price.
Thanks! That's insane. If I go back to Vegas again, I'd do another year of SEMA before paying $300 for a freaking toy show.
