Official MTB / Mountain Biking Chit Chat

[hpiguy]

That thread is more nerdy than this place.

Depends on what you consider nerdy I guess. I can find nerdy stuff on both sites, and I'm thankful for that. I think we all geek out on our hobbies in our own ways. "thumbsup"

Hpi I read through your thread on mtbr.

Couple of notes that I wanted to throw out there:

-The fork specs don't show a lock out setting. The adjustments on the fork are Air Pressure, LS Compression, Incremental Platform Adjust, Hydraulic Bottom Out,Rebound and I am sure you know this. In general fork function lock out is achieved when the lsc is closed off forcing the oil to go through the high speed compression circuit. The high speed circuit is managed by the shim stack. If the first "stage" of the stack, usually just the face shim with stock mtb forks is thick enough the fork will be locked out until it hits a big enough object where the force of the oil is strong enough to bend that shim. If the face shim is not strong enough to hold back the oil then you won't have lock out. Either way you can change the shims in the stack so you can have lock out. If you stick with the fork and are interested in shim tuning let me know, I can help with that and can send you shims to try out different tunes.


-did you try taking off the air valve either by removing the core or removing the whole air cap? That way you can measure how much travel the fork has and check for smoothness of travel manually without the air spring interfering.

-I have found that ALL fork manufactures don't ship their forks with the proper amount of oil in them. One of the first things I do when getting a new fork is to check the oil level on the dampener which is usually fine. Then drain and refill the splash/bath and float fluid. When checking the float fluid is when the air cap is removed and travel smoothness and travel are checked.

Jeff, I really appreaciate you taking the time to look at it. Once I actually get to ride one that works properly I'll know if the semi lockout will work for me or not. If it works the way it sounds like it will, then I think it will be fine. The only reason I'm concerned is that it's goiing on a SS. So I prefer to waste as little energy as possible moving a fork that should be propelling me forward instead. The lockout thing is 100% on me for not researching more.


I haven't torn into it as I don't have the Manitou tool kit, but if I keep the fork, I will order the tool kit for sure. At that point, I can verify overall travel, and I'll check the oil level as well.

Randy

 

[rupps5]

You know it's a good day when the sun is out and there is a package from your sponsor waiting for you when you get home

 

[EeePee]

You stink. But only cause Cannondale.

 

[hpiguy]

Leave it to Box to think outside it with their new 12x1 drivetrain.

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/revol...in-from-box-components-fd-owl-12x1-drive.html

 

[rupps5]

Leave it to Box to think outside it with their new 12x1 drivetrain.

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/revol...in-from-box-components-fd-owl-12x1-drive.html

Just throw q factor and wide tires out the window

 

[EeePee]

I dunno about that one. One of the neat things to me about the new stuff is now the front ring is smaller. Compared to smashing a 52 tooth gear on logs and whatnot... What's the rear chain tensioner look like?

 

[hpiguy]

Yeah, but just think of how much more nimble that rear end will be with all that unsprung mass removed from it!






Also, just think of the date it was posted on PB. :mrgreen:

 

[Natedog]

Lol


You need to buy it, just like 1x10 and 1x11, you can't ride without it according to all the manufacturers and fanboy bicycle magazines and websites! :lmao:"thumbsup" Rotflmfao!

 

[Chris81]

You guys happen to note the date on that post....

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[EeePee]

Did you happen to note the post two above yours? hpiguy's

 

[Chris81]

Did you happen to note the post two above yours? hpiguy's

Ahh yes...missed that part...

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[SPLATT]

That thread is more nerdy than this place.

Lot's of snobbery as well. I'm on there as FLYINW

 

[EeePee]

I imagine the weight weenies are still the weight weenies they've always been.

 

[hpiguy]

Round #2 of the SERC series was the Knobscorcher at Tsali yesterday. I went over and helped my LBS out for the day. We served over 200 hot dogs, veggie dogs, and grilled chicken "dogs" to hungry racers, handed out prizes, and just had a good time. Three of our riders got on the podium, including two 1st place podiums. I got in a short (but terrible, long story) ride once everyone cleared out also.

 

[hpiguy]

Still back and forth with Manitou. The guy I spoke with last week had an attitude that made him seem annoyed that I was even calling about my issues. Maybe he was just having a bad day, I don't know. I do know that I've been nothing but polite and professional throughout this whole thing. I learned long ago you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. But even that doesn't seem to be working in this case. I'll post updates to the saga when I have them. :roll:

 

[SPLATT]

Can't say I've ever had an issue with Manitou forks. The only issues with Rock Shox has been major flex under my clydesdale ass.

 

[rupps5]

HPI sorry your having such a problem with Manitou. I have only had good experiences with them on the phone and emails. I would much rather deal with them then rockshox.

 

[hpiguy]

Ah, it happens I suppose. Never dealt with RS, but I've dealt with Fox and they've always been great for me.

I heard back from them late yesterday. They're going to send out replacement knobs for the stuff that was scratched up during service. My original box was apparently damaged in shipping, but nobody mentioned that in my phone call last week. They'll replace the stickers and anything else that was damaged also. They also explained that my IPA / HSC knob is working properly, and was tested before it left there. They explained that the clicks becoming less defined, or non-existent is due to tightening down the compression needle valve, kind of like a screw, and it will eventually just close off completely. BUT, it took way more force than I was comfortable exerting on suspension adkusters to make it do so. Once they explained it, mine appears to work as it should, albeit with a LOT of force for that last bit of adjustment. They should really cover this in the manual, as it is completely different than any fork I've ever dealt with, whether bike or moto. That would have saved everyone a lot of time and headache. Anyway, it's back on the bike now, maybe I'll get to ride this weekend.

 

[HOLLYWOOD33]

Ah, it happens I suppose. Never dealt with RS, but I've dealt with Fox and they've always been great for me.

I heard back from them late yesterday. They're going to send out replacement knobs for the stuff that was scratched up during service. My original box was apparently damaged in shipping, but nobody mentioned that in my phone call last week. They'll replace the stickers and anything else that was damaged also. They also explained that my IPA / HSC knob is working properly, and was tested before it left there. They explained that the clicks becoming less defined, or non-existent is due to tightening down the compression needle valve, kind of like a screw, and it will eventually just close off completely. BUT, it took way more force than I was comfortable exerting on suspension adkusters to make it do so. Once they explained it, mine appears to work as it should, albeit with a LOT of force for that last bit of adjustment. They should really cover this in the manual, as it is completely different than any fork I've ever dealt with, whether bike or moto. That would have saved everyone a lot of time and headache. Anyway, it's back on the bike now, maybe I'll get to ride this weekend.

Well look who it is.... :mrgreen:

 

[hpiguy]

Ha ha, hey Chris, welcome to RCC. You need to load up all the toys and make a trip to the mountains this year, it's been way too long buddy.