Losi 1/10th Roller

[whoodie]

bummer about that. Question for ya though Rich.... Normally with a DIG, when you disengage the rear and have front-drive only...the rear would roll freely...but it seems like the worm gears would prevent this correct?

Yes.

 

[Rich Trujillo]

Thanks guys.

Moose, that is correct, no freewheel with the worm design we use.

The big thing is getting constant materials, thread pitch etc. on top of that the right ratio.
Worms gears are not as efficient as a standard ring and pinion but we still feel that the benefits you get from worms will out weigh this issue. We are very very close to getting them right, but even when we do, there are lead times to get parts made, this is part of the hold up. We are doing the hardcore testing right now and you guys will see updates from our team guys that have them very soon.

Thanks again,
Rich

 

[megacabcummins]

Hey Rich, for those of us that prepaid right away can we get a hookup on some stickers?? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Just kidding man... just tryin to add some humor to the bummer news. "thumbsup"

 

[DBR]

Hey Rich, for those of us that prepaid right away can we get a hookup on some stickers?? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Just kidding man... just tryin to add some humor to the bummer news. "thumbsup"

That, my friend, will be the line you should use at the LHS. They are the ones that took your money.;-) I may have to try that one myself. Might be able to squeeze something out of them.

p.s. Try not to smile as you act all outraged that the most awesomest thing to hit the earth since C. Norris was born is late.

 

[whoodie]

Thanks guys.

Moose, that is correct, no freewheel with the worm design we use.

The big thing is getting constant materials, thread pitch etc. on top of that the right ratio.
Worms gears are not as efficient as a standard ring and pinion but we still feel that the benefits you get from worms will out weigh this issue. We are very very close to getting them right, but even when we do, there are lead times to get parts made, this is part of the hold up. We are doing the hardcore testing right now and you guys will see updates from our team guys that have them very soon.

Thanks again,
Rich

Yeah I imagine that surface fatigue will be an area of concern with a worm gear. I hope that the idea to switch to a standard R&P is out of the question, as the worm gear is one of the distinguishing features of your design. I know you guys can get it right. If you need any material advice, I have contacts with the Material Science department at my University.

 

[megacabcummins]

So would coating them make a difference? I know they have stuff to coat engine internals, why not these puppies...

 

[BigSki]

I was just looking through my copy of the machineries manual today and I was looking at worm gears. They mentioned a chill cast nickle/broze alloy as being an ideal material for worm gears. Are you guys (Losi) trying an alloy compound or a plastic type of gear?

I'm with everyone else waiting for this rig, but I think everyone wants you to get it right so I can appreciate the wait.

 

[constantmotion]

OK...odd question before a release. What size standard tools will be needed for the hardware on this truck? Since they will be standard sized, I am needing to buy some new hex drivers.

Rich, Jason said tonight that the release date is May, but yesterday you said late March. Which is it now?

 

[Rokpile]

Argh...ok guys, got some bad news.
As I have been saying from the beginning, the worms have been a challenge, getting the right ratio, tooth size etc. I was being optimistic that we would be shipping in late March, but after getting with our vendor and designer, we are going to be pushing back until late May to consumers.
This is very frustrating the issues we are dealing with BUT as I've always stated, we will not release it until it is right.
I know there are going to be some pissed off people here but it is what it is.
We're working our butts off to get this right.

Rich

thats a bummer, looks like MOA, didn't want to but you forced me to do it, end of may is a whole nother crawler away. sorry can't wait for ever, i've been loyal to losi for a while on other stuff and will in the future but my crawler needs updated now. i hope you understand that i don't see sufficient setup time before the big events in june and july "thumbsup"

 

[Rich Trujillo]

OK...odd question before a release. What size standard tools will be needed for the hardware on this truck? Since they will be standard sized, I am needing to buy some new hex drivers.

Rich, Jason said tonight that the release date is May, but yesterday you said late March. Which is it now?

The Comp Crawler uses 3/32, 5/64, 1/16 & .050 hex wrenches as well as a
2.5mm for the motor screws.

Unfortunately it is Late May, I received confirmation yesterday morning about the change (i was trying to be optimistic)

 

[constantmotion]

Bummer :-(

 

[Del Monte]

Bummer indeed...

On the plus side, I ran the Comp Crawler completely stock with no weight in the wheels last night at RCP crawlers FNF indoor comp and I pulled a tie for 2nd. The suspension is dialed, and the rig is working awesome.

Here's the setup I'm running so far just to give you guys some ideas

ESC: Mamba Max
Motor: Novak 55t
Steering Servo: Hitec 7955
Dig Servo: Losi Mini servo
Suspension: Completely Stock 8)
Battery: 3S 20C Losi Lipo

The wheelspeed is a little slower then an Axial with the MM/55t combo, but its enough for most courses. I will be trying some more motor/ESC combos this week to give you guys some more info.

-Jake

 

[dirk379]

I will probably get one when they're available as a back up rig. The only thing that would be hard to get used to again is not as much wheel speed as my berg.

 

[BJoe]

Just take your time and make it right on the first run, I'd rather have it right straight from the box that have to fix it a bunch of times because of weak materials or a rushed development schedule.

 

[ecoli]

Ah May, at least then the snow will be gone around here so I can run it outdoors !

As others have said, not a big deal. I'd rather have it right than picking out bits of worm gear shrapnel from the axle casings.

Bummer indeed...
The wheelspeed is a little slower then an Axial with the MM/55t combo, but its enough for most courses. I will be trying some more motor/ESC combos this week to give you guys some more info.

-Jake

Definitely interested in hearing the results on this. I was planning on picking up a 35 and 45t motor for this rig. Sounds like a slightly faster motor is the way to go.

 

[MISFITCOMPER]

That is painful thing to here that its may now. I already have all the eletronics,paint,and carrier for the rig. Guess I should order a Rock Force. Lol! JK. I will wait for the LOSI.

 

[canuckcrawler]

Thats a bummer, I've already paid for my pre order, and its going to be an extra 2 months before I see the product in my hands. "Good things come to those who wait" comes to mind, but I've never been good at waiting.... Guess I'll just have to build up my super class and 1.9 class crawlers that I've been holding off on.

Hey Rich, will the Novack brushless crawler system be a good match for this rig? I only ask as I've already got one from my old axial rig that I sold off to buy this one.

 

[SACCO]

Other than the gears, what other growing pains are you guys having?

 

[some87]

you cant go wrong with hudy. best tools i have ever used

 

[renoirbud]

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The fact that it flexes would not be a problem because there is lots of surface contact between worm and pinion.
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If you would go with a Titanium Nickel alloy, they would be very smooth and last very long. I know this is probably not possible due to cost.