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Resurrecting a 25 year old RC10 GT

ahh. Aluminum A-Arms, and plastic steering bellcranks. Those were the days!
Can't wait to see the results.
@Fallen or @Fricker08 or somebody was mentioning in another thread about aluminum arms transferring load/ stress ( a crash) to the chassis or other components and although I've never had an issue, it did put me in mind of maybe running the factory plastic arms. I'm not really sure but one thing that I don't like with the plastic arms ( factory or even RPM) is that if you have a hinge pin that's just ever so slightly bent or if the holes are dirty it really causes binding and hinders free movement. The aluminum arms utilize plastic bushings and I do use graphite on all hinged parts but still... even with the shock-springs pushing down, I've had issues with plastic arms in the past getting hung up or not fully/ freely traveling.

One thing that I'm constantly keeping in mind is parts availability throughout every aspect of this project. I need to make one last ebay sweep because even though I have just about every part x2 or x3, there are still a few things that I want because once they're gone... they're gone for good. Not too many people left that are finding RC10GT's in their attics or basements and parting them out for ebay listings.

Thanks for taking a look... much appreciated.
 
I don't think I've ever had an aluminum A-arm damage a chassis. But that may be because I stopped using them due to the logic behind it.

If you're driving slowly enough that the crash wouldn't generate much force then they wouldn't hurt anything. They'd be a performance upgrade too.

But if you plan on going fast enough to break an A-arm during a crash, using plastic will probably save your chassis if you care about that.
 
But if you plan on going fast enough to break an A-arm during a crash, using plastic will probably save your chassis if you care about that.

From experience: The aluminum arms, generally meant less bent pins, but upped the chance that if you used the ultra light aluminum screws from Team Associated, you usually sheered them off. Hope you brought a dremel and didn't use loctite on the bulkhead screws.
 
Since this project is one more of nostalgia, the plan is to go easy on the throttle... although we all know how that goes lol.

I've upgraded the four 8-32 aluminum FH bulkhead screws to stainless and I've upgraded the front bumper to a thicker RPM bumper that started life as a T-Maxx skid-plate ( 4.26 mm). I was never crazy about the several RC10GT bumper variants as they were really thin and didn't offer much front-end protection. I'll crash into something eventually but hopefully the improvements that I've made will minimize the potential for catastrophic damage. Will just have to see how it goes.
 
From experience: The aluminum arms, generally meant less bent pins, but upped the chance that if you used the ultra light aluminum screws from Team Associated, you usually sheered them off. Hope you brought a dremel and didn't use loctite on the bulkhead screws.


Yeah, the aluminum supports other parts much better than plastic. It'll prevent driveshafts, shock shafts and hinge pins from bending where the flex of plastic allows for those items to get bent out of shape.

With an aluminum chassis and conservative driving, the aluminum A-arms make more sense.

On my bashers I prefer a "hard in the middle, soft on the outside" build that protects my chassis by having it surrounded by plastic cushions which are cheap and easy to replace.
 
@Fallen I sincerely appreciate your insight here. Even though I've built three RC10GT's, it was long ago and doesn't mean that I was necessarily taking the best approach in various aspects of the builds. Thanks again for your expertise and experience.

And I'm limited on hinge pins... There are some still out there but most or all are used ( likely tweaked a bit) and as with everything else RC10GT out there... expensive.

My hopefully last ebay search I'm going to try to grab a diff-thrust assembly ( new), another transmission case ( new), and chassis ( used but looks straight). That should hold me. If I could find an RC10GT sticker sheet that would be nice but so far no dice and it's not really a necessity. The vintage sticker sheets that I have seen are crazy expensive as well and they're not what I'd want. Would probably be cheaper to see if someone could just print some of the old-school logos.
 
Got the transmission pulled apart. Had to use my drill-press to extract the drive-shaft pin but internals were in really good shape. Disassembled everything and replaced all bearings as well as diff-rings. After thorough cleaning and inspection, greased up the diff-thrust assembly, put a small amount of light weight oil on the gears, and shot fresh grease into the differential gear that holds the carbide balls.

Brake assembly is a little corroded but not too bad and I do have two more assemblies to use when need be. Put a light scuffing on the clutch discs and brake disc although I do have more of these as well. Replaced all hardware with 4-40 stainless and she's back in business... smooth as silk.







Also dismantled the old AE .15 and transferred parts over to the new TRX .15... in order: shim, collet, flywheel ( replaced with one in better condition), clutch-nut, MIP 4n1 clutch ( I have a few of these but re-surfaced this one as it was in good shape), flange bearing, clutch bell, flange bearing, and e-clip.





Went ahead and decided to get the throttle/ brake linkage cleaned up as well. The old one was a combination of blue/ purple anodized and brass collars. Replaced all of that with chrome-plated collars and re-set linkage lengths. Looks better now imo... I'm continuing to try to make parts more conservative, matching, and updated.



Updated linkage... In the foreground are the old linkage parts that I replaced.

 
Nitro engine are so cool and nitro exhaust smells amazing!
It's one of those love/ hate things with the nitro smell. I love it until I get a snoot-full and then I curse it to hell.

This project has really ignited something in me because I'm all over some of the Tamiya platforms lately... BBX, Sand Scorcher, and Champ are at the top. Not sure which one I'll eventually get but I'm leaning towards the BBX. 2wd buggies are just so much fun to drive so I hope to get the chance to build one of these before I'm too old.
 
Have you thought of some "offsetting" color fuel line for all that nurple aluminum?
 
Have you thought of some "offsetting" color fuel line for all that nurple aluminum?
The blue ano is pretty consistent throughout aside from the darker blue engine head and the old Associated turnbuckles. Fuel line will be Traxxas clear-blue... same as the fuel tubing on the throttle linkage. Opaque fuel line sucks since you can't see the fuel flow.

And I don't really care about whatever blue this or that is. I'm using what I have to work with and all that shit back in the 90's was some anodized color or bright fluorescent color. It may look goofy but I'm having a lot of fun with it.
 
What is it with all the chatter on the Tamiya BBX lately? I too am itching to get one but just started getting into another truck project and my wife has started asking questions so I am going to have to skip all the Hobbytown holiday coupons and just wait until next fall to get a BBX. All this talk is making me antsy though.

As far as anodized stuff, likely all the same colored ano parts are all slightly different shades anyway. Matching ano color is difficult from batch to batch. Best to just not worry about matching, like you already stated.
 
What is it with all the chatter on the Tamiya BBX lately? I too am itching to get one but just started getting into another truck project and my wife has started asking questions so I am going to have to skip all the Hobbytown holiday coupons and just wait until next fall to get a BBX. All this talk is making me antsy though.

As far as anodized stuff, likely all the same colored ano parts are all slightly different shades anyway. Matching ano color is difficult from batch to batch. Best to just not worry about matching, like you already stated.
@Fallen 's thread has been pretty inspiring. And if you saw the video that other guy posted last week... very nice. But even before all of that, the Tamiya kits always fascinated me... the box-art, the iconic history, etc... and I've heard over and over that any RC'er needs to experience building at least one Tamiya kit at some point. I know that the instruction manuals are very well done, the decals are replicated spot on, and fit/ finish and details are amazing. I like that they've updated most of their kits over the years yet left certain aspects original. And man.. so many cool vehicles that other manufacturer's would never touch. What a niche!

For sure... I'm into what I like and what's acceptable to me.. not anyone else. If something bothers me, I'll address it somehow but I continue to love the look of this thing coming back to life as I remember it but better. Back in the day, no anodized colors ever matched perfectly from one manufacturer to another... or even different batches within one manufacturer. I've made some aesthetic changes and performance improvements on this rig and although it feels like I've been working on this one forever, I'm still enthusiastic. Typically I'll burn out on a project at some point and the fact that it hasn't happened yet, is pretty sweet.
 
BBX's are awesome. I think it's a combination of an all-new platform from Tamiya (that doesn't happen often!), a great looking buggy, and one that combines scale looks and decent performance and durability (again these latter two things aren't always the case with Tamiya products).
 
Back to it. Waiting on servos right now and that's starting to hold me up. I've got some old Futabas and Airtronics servos as well as a bunch of others but for one reason or another I can't or don't want to use any of them for this project.

Anyway- Previous pics showed the old receiver cover ( purple silicone "boot") but it just looks bad and offers no impact protection. So I decided to get a KYX box from Amazon. It's not sealed but aside from some of the Traxxas boxes ( all too big) not many of them are. I have an RPM box for the RC10GT but it's also too big as is the RC4WD box that's in the TF2. This This KYX box should work fine to keep out nitro-fuel and I'm not planning on ever running this truck in water so it should be okay. It feels solid and has a low profile. I did have to shave a tiny bit from the underside of the lid in order for the antenna mount to fit right next to it but other than that it fits nicely and looks good.

Also, I didn't want to use dbl-sided tape to hold the box to the mounting plate ( since nitro and adhesive don't play well together) so I opted to use flat-head screws from the inside instead. Problem was that the mounting plate standoffs only come up off the chassis 2.75mm and that's not enough room to clear the 3.90mm lock-nuts on the underside of the mounting plate. I could've used regular nuts but even with thread-lock, I don't want to risk having the receiver box vibrating lose if the thread-lock failed. So I added a pair of 3.15mm plastic spacers to give me a total of 5.90mm... plenty of room now to use the lock-nuts on the underside of the plate... securing the box to the mounting plate. To dress it up a little, I replaced the black-oxide button-head lid screws for stainless and put a tiny 'JConcepts' logo ( where a 'KYX' logo was supposed to be but wasn't lol).







Onto the engine. After getting the clutch portion installed and the flywheels/ clutch-nut torqued down, I had to enlarge the throttle-control arm hole to fit the ball-stud for the linkage. Delicate job since there's not much room for error and the arm is thin enough that it could've easily bent had the drill-bit gotten hung up.



In the old days I ran with a throttle-return spring and I wanted to carry that over to the new engine too. Problem was that the carburetor on this engine sits higher so in order to not have constant tension on the spring, I had to fabricate a little "tab" thingy that raises where the spring attaches to the engine mounting bolts. Pictures show pretty clearly what I'm talking about here. Now there's zero tension on the spring while at idle and it's not stretching the spring beyond what it should be when opening the throttle. Came out perfect.



While I was at it I decided to get rid of the Phillips-head chrome pull-start cover screws and instead use some black-oxide cap-heads. Looks better now and getting rid of Phillips-head screws is always a plus.



Also got the manifold cleaned and installed onto the engine and shaved a bit of the gasket down for the hell of it. Engine is now ready to be mounted on the chassis but will wait until I get the servos installed.



The rear bumper presented it's share of challenges as well but I got it figured out. The original bumper was really designed to utilize a 4 AA battery box... not a hump-pack, so I had to get creative. I instead utilized an RPM T-Maxx front bumper that matches the other RPM front bumper already used on the front end of this project. These bumpers are thick and look nice with plenty of room for a receiver hump-pack in the rear ( and no zip-ties).

Then took some TF2 Marlin body mounting standoffs to make a "cradle" of sorts. And used a scrap piece of plastic ( left-over RPM bumper scrap) and made a top piece that clamps onto the hump-pack quite snugly. The battery pack doesn't move around at all and is protected on the top and bottom with high-density foam strips.







 
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I dont recall the name unless, Tiger was the actual name of the brand, but someone made a conversion (tiger drive) iirc for a spin start or drill you would insert a 6mm ball head allen. It would stiĺl be cinsidered vintage, i had a few on my engines after I got tired of blisters from yank starting. Had different colored avalilable covers for the bevel gears.
Just an idea💡
 
I had something similar at one time and yeah, you had to use a cordless drill which was a pain in the ass. Also meant that I couldn't really feel the engine compression which I didn't care for. It had a standard hex at one end and iirc a ball bearing head on the other end that attached to the crankshaft/. adapter plate in place of the ps. That's my fuzzy memory anyway. I thought I'd be slick and alleviate those blisters. Nope. I forget who made it.

I never saw that Tiger thing but WTH? Maybe I should've tried that lol.
 
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