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Congresswoman attempted assassination

rock hard said:
Yea,ann is a bit harsh when she speaks I agree,maybe cuz she is tires of taking it.
But she doesnt have her own show either does she??
good with books,not so good in person.

rush and oriely,if you watch/listen to them much,you will have heard thier tone,and its in good fun.Not an ounch of hatred in their voices have I ever heard.Frustration yes,but not hate,I honestly can not say the same for ann.
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I am convinced Ann is also insane. She doesn't have a talk show because no one in their right mind (no pun intended) would give her one for fear of the damage she would do to the right wing media.

Tone or not, how many liberals in the serious media come right out and mention killing conservatives "for fun".

I've heard Limbaugh scream for conservative justice for fear of eternal damnation, and I've hear Beck in all sincerity claim that it is time to prepare for the end (stock up on food, teach your kids to hunt, buy a gun and an underground shelter to live in, etc etc), all with liberal politics and ideology to blame. None of it was humorous, or done in a humorous tone. There was no laughter afterwards. Neither of these shows are promoted as comedy or entertainment, they are promoted as news and opinion.
 
Duuuuuuuude said:
I am convinced Ann is also insane. She doesn't have a talk show because no one in their right mind (no pun intended) would give her one for fear of the damage she would do to the right wing media.

Tone or not, how many liberals in the serious media come right out and mention killing conservatives "for fun".

I've heard Limbaugh scream for conservative justice for fear of eternal damnation, and I've hear Beck in all sincerity claim that it is time to prepare for the end (stock up on food, teach your kids to hunt, buy a gun and an underground shelter to live in, etc etc), all with liberal politics and ideology to blame. None of it was humorous, or done in a humorous tone. There was no laughter afterwards. Neither of these shows are promoted as comedy or entertainment, they are promoted as news and opinion.
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No,I said rush and oriely,noe beck.Beck is very serious every time I have watched. And to be perfectly honest,it is IMO the liberal ideaology that is,and will continue to bring this counrty to its knee's

I felt that way long before FOX was around.I felt that way once I realized they
dont stand for what I consider some of our principle values.
Like the right to own guns,libs are more than willing to nix that
Staes right,libs are all about the power being centralized,most are even on board for a one worl gov.

conservatines are very strong on smaller gov.,states rights,ect.
These values may seem miniscule to some,but to me the current attemptes orrossion of these values,among others can be blaimed on people in power whom have socialist ideologies,and they have taken over the democratic party. So,people like me,who like these core values,have no choice but to turn out back on the demoncrates,and unit together under the banner of another party,the republicans.

I'm not a republican actually,I'm actually a constitutionalist,but the republican party is most in line with my ideas.
 
caymin last said:
Dont' forget, Democrat operative Mark Penn " Obama needs a similar event like 'Oklahoma city' to reconnect with voters"
and "If they bring a knife, we'll bring a gun" Pres. Obama.
Ect. Ect............
This is just a silly pointless game that could go on for hours and hours.
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Saying that Obama needs a tragedy is not the same as saying somebody blow something up so we can reconnect with the public.

The knife/gun thing is a very old saying that pertains to just about any situation where a person wants to outdo another. That doesn't mean they actually want to get into a literal knife/gun fight.

It is a silly game. The point is, the extreme ends of both sides need to STFU and let more reasonable people do the talking.

rock hard said:
No,I said rush and oriely,noe beck.Beck is very serious every time I have watched. And to be perfectly honest,it is IMO the liberal ideaology that is,and will continue to bring this counrty to its knee's

I felt that way long before FOX was around.I felt that way once I realized they
dont stand for what I consider some of our principle values.
Like the right to own guns,libs are more than willing to nix that
Staes right,libs are all about the power being centralized,most are even on board for a one worl gov.

conservatines are very strong on smaller gov.,states rights,ect.
These values may seem miniscule to some,but to me the current attemptes orrossion of these values,among others can be blaimed on people in power whom have socialist ideologies,and they have taken over the democratic party. So,people like me,who like these core values,have no choice but to turn out back on the demoncrates,and unit together under the banner of another party,the republicans.

I'm not a republican actually,I'm actually a constitutionalist,but the republican party is most in line with my ideas.
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I don't claim affiliation with either party, though I'm usually labeled as a liberal because I can't stand the conservative media and those who are just as guilty of turning a blind eye to the rights downfalls as those who do so for the left, yet claim a superior party.

There are many things I disagree with on both the left and the right. One reacts to the other and visa versa until it just gets out of control, which is pretty much where we are now.
 
Duuuuuuuude said:
I don't claim affiliation with either party, though I'm usually labeled as a liberal because I can't stand the conservative media and those who are just as guilty of turning a blind eye to the rights downfalls as those who do so for the left, yet claim a superior party.

There are many things I disagree with on both the left and the right. One reacts to the other and visa versa until it just gets out of control, which is pretty much where we are now.
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Everyone has certain ideas the hold strong,of the 2 parties most people can find a place.If you find yourself aligned mostly with the dems in todays goverment.Well,you may not know it,but you are aligned with a party that is socialist at heart,it may even be communist at heart,since a one world goverment would IMO end up communist.


Now if you find yourself more aligned with the republicans,well you may not know it,but you are supporting a party that believes in smaller goverment.
states rights,gun rights,ect.

I know who the libs are dangerous to my ways of life,as a result I find myself
aligned with the republicans,in a 2 party system IMO you must pick a side and dig in. People mostly have conservatiove ideas as opposed to socialist IMO
they opten stay out of the fight,cuz they are busy,ect.
But sometimes if it swings to far in either direction,it wakes up the otehr side.

Funny thing,its a statisticaly,most youth are liberal dems,and as they age (mature,grow wiser) they mostly turn conservative.

So the smarter they get,the more conservative they become;-)
 
Duuuuuuuude said:
Saying that Obama needs a tragedy is not the same as saying somebody blow something up so we can reconnect with the public.

I still say its sad that libs want tragedy,so thier leaders can benifit from it.
I rememebr people saying that if the attack had only happened of clintons watch,how it could have helped his legacy.

To me its a clear sign they desire whats good for thier party and its leaders,not whats best for the country

The knife/gun thing is a very old saying that pertains to just about any situation where a person wants to outdo another. That doesn't mean they actually want to get into a literal knife/gun fight.

True,but it is a president,talking to his party,about the republicans
rebutal of his policies. That makes it clear he has no intention of working with the other side.IMO he thinks of himself like a king,and we should all kneel.
It is without a doubt his job to settle the disaray within the halls,he has only added to the fires.

It is a silly game. The point is, the extreme ends of both sides need to STFU and let more reasonable people do the talking.


Hmm.I think Rush is reasonable,and have no desire to see him leave.
Nor Bill Orieley,or Glenn beck.
They are speaking to like minded people,so whats it to someone
who isnt even a conservative?we should change our face cuz the
socialist dont like us calling them socialist?



I don't claim affiliation with either party, though I'm usually labeled as a liberal because I can't stand the conservative media and those who are just as guilty of turning a blind eye to the rights downfalls as those who do so for the left, yet claim a superior party.

Just what rights do the republicans not stand up for?
Spit it out,could be they dont support it as a right
cuz its not really a right;-)

There are many things I disagree with on both the left and the right. One reacts to the other and visa versa until it just gets out of control, which is pretty much where we are now.
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Only a few things do I disagree with CONSERVATIVES on,I disagree with
republicans on many issues,though I still know they are good for MY country,and dems are chiping away at MY country every chance they get.

So for me the choice is as simple as what to breath8)
 
Man a thread about people that got killed and one barely hanging on to life sure has got derailed by political opinions!
 
TattooKenny said:
Man a thread about people that got killed and one barely hanging on to life sure has got derailed by political opinions!
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True
thought the tragedy in of itself has been made political in a sense by the media.That and I heard wispers that gun legistlation is a topic in congress now.

Sorry to jack it,me and duuuuude could argue all night if you let us:ror:
 
TattooKenny said:
Man a thread about people that got killed and one barely hanging on to life sure has got derailed by political opinions!
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its truly sad.. that peoples death and injury has turned into a finger pointing session from both sides.

if they would use the same effort in the support of the family's that just lost some one or has someone laying in a hospital bed this world would look allot better..
 
What is sad is that six people have died. A nine year old girl meeting a roll model, a husband saving his wifes life, a judge visiting a friend, an aide to be married, and two ladys enjoying retirement.
Congress women Gifford is in the ICU with a portion of her skull removed. What kind of life will she have now. How will she recover and the others who are in icu with her and were wounded.
She would meet with her constituents every weekend when she wasn't in Washington it didn't mater if it was a democrat or republican and listen to what they wanted.
Thee man who did the shooting is sick onthe head to do this he should be punished for his crimes.

But what is sad is that alot of you who have posted on this thread have started pointing fingers at who's fault it was depending on what party you follow. This was a act of evil weather it was cause of politics or not this is not the time to be pointing fingers we should hoping for the recovery of all the people who were victims of this is crime
 
I saw on TV the congress women is able to follow commands. A good sign I'd say. Of course maybe the media screwed that info up also.
 
I hate to hear of children being caught in the middle of situations like this when their lives are taken from them before they even get to live them. Listening to our Governor speak last night about the tragedy it brought a tear to my eye when I heard her speak about the little girl who was killed by this douche bag.

Born 9/11/01, she didn't think of her birthday as a sad day, rather she thought of her birthday as a day of hope, and she wanted to make a difference. I don't want to get too deep here, but it kinda makes you wonder, unfortunately now we'll never know what good she could have brought to this country. :cry:
 
jmontes_21 said:
WBut what is sad is that alot of you who have posted on this thread have started pointing fingers at who's fault it was depending on what party you follow. This was a act of evil weather it was cause of politics or not this is not the time to be pointing fingers we should hoping for the recovery of all the people who were victims of this is crime
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Nobody has blamed any political party here. We were discussing extremist talk show/news hosts and how their publicly broadcast views can encourage this kind of behavior. I'm relatively certain that most people, no matter their political alignment, do not want horrible events like this to happen.

From reading up a bit on this guy that did the shooting, he seemed distraught with government as a whole, not just one particular party. Though he had an experience with Rep. Giffords once before...

At an event roughly three years ago, Rep. Gabrielle Giffords took a question from Jared Loughner, the man accused of trying to assassinate her and killing six other people. According to two of his high school friends the question was essentially this: "What is government if words have no meaning?"

Loughner was angry about her response - she read the question and didn't have much to say.

"He was like ... 'What do you think of these people who are working for the government and they can't describe what they do?"' a friend who asked to remain anonymous told The Associated Press on Sunday. "He did not like government officials, how they spoke. Like they were just trying to cover up some conspiracy."
 
rock hard said:
My understanding is felonies stick,and if its not a felony,my understanding is he would still be able to own a firarm.

And listen,taking away ones right to own a gun will NOT prvent them from
commiting bodily harm,even with a gun.
There is a well known fact that for some reaon people tend to forget

CRIMINALS,and people with CRIMINAL intent dont give a shit about the LAW
they will aquire a gun,other weapon from illegal means if neccessary
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I am well aware of that, and in all honesty, there was nothing that would have kept the guy from stealing an old GM product or XJ/MJ using the same steering column and just slamming that into the event instead. He very easily could have followed the premise of "The Dead Pool" using a R/C with explosives strapped to it and created as much, if not more mayhem with that.

bmuzz1 said:
I hate to hear of children being caught in the middle of situations like this when their lives are taken from them before they even get to live them. Listening to our Governor speak last night about the tragedy it brought a tear to my eye when I heard her speak about the little girl who was killed by this douche bag.

Born 9/11/01, she didn't think of her birthday as a sad day, rather she thought of her birthday as a day of hope, and she wanted to make a difference. I don't want to get too deep here, but it kinda makes you wonder, unfortunately now we'll never know what good she could have brought to this country. :cry:
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After reading your post, I kinda got to thinking. This may sound bad, cruel, and somewhat heinous, especially to parents, but her death could do more to bring positive change to this country than any of the others. With the Judge (who may have been there for "work" as well as to see a friend), the Congress Woman, and her staffers, this is the risk some take in political office and has been since Roman times, however this truly innocent little girl who also lost her life may convince people to look at the talking heads from both sides that blather on incessantly about this kind of crap in a new light and decide to turn on a favorite music station instead if listening to some ranting idiot.
 
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There's a time and place for debating left wing/right wing ideologies and this isn't it. This thread is about the attempted assassination of a Congresswoman, a completely innocent 9 y/o girl and others who were unfortunate enough to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Everybody is entitled to their opinions (political or otherwise), but it's like they say: "Opinions are like azzholes... Everybody has one". But, like the majority of the other members here, I couldn't give two sh!ts about your political views:flipoff: You want to debate politics? Start your own chit chat thread;-)


:flipoff:
 
JeremyH said:
Here is some lovely news about this situation:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/01/11/arizona.funeral.westboro/index.html?hpt=T2

Those dipshits at Westboro Baptist "Church" plan to protest at the funeral of the little girl that died in this shooting. I hope those people burn in hell....:evil:
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:roll: They are protesting because the family is Catholic? It's always funny that in one breath a religious group will say,"god is love", and in the next say, "god hates _____". :roll:
 
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