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1/6 Wraith/Nylint TJ Jeep + scale quad

some new shoes

2.2 RTR BFG Crawler's swapped out for PL 2.2 TSL SX/XL's

^ shod on a fresh set of Axial Method idf wheels to boot.


Should be fairly easy to visibly see the size difference.
5.5" Vs. 5.8" = mo' ground clearance ;-)

TJ rolls acceptably on these XL's
but I'll need make a few susp. modifications
to dial it in to my likes.


 
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Thanks Mike,

they do look better IMO
tho' these tires are much more stickier/pliable
then what the BFG's were.

And so... will probably fold(buckle)/bind more then I like.
But probably 'cuz I've yet to pony up for some CI foams.
But guess I won't know until I roll them.

These are the original super large foam inserts...
super over-sized (not kidding) and close to med - firm in support.
Had to slice 'bout 1/2" wide disc off each insert foam
just to be able to assemble these on these particular wheels :shock:

I'm not even gonna attempt to run these
until my 500 oz/in servo gets here and is installed.
and I'll hope that's enough to turn them acceptably !?

Oh and if I didn't say before...
these XL's would scale in at being 35" tires if they were on a 1:1

The BFG 5.5" tires were 33" tall (1:1)
so the difference of .5" and .8" (tho' only about a 1/4" difference)...
is a substantial height increase would seem.

an 6.666" would be a 40" tire
an 7.333" would be a 44" tire :twisted:
but those oddball sizes don't exist for the 2.2's that I know.
Think these XL's are among the tallest mfgr'd 2.2 crawler tires available :cry:

next step up would require utilizing probably 3.8 wheels + 40 series tires !? ~nah~
 
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Just finished up installing the Savox SA 1230 SG servo
into my 6th scale TJ along with the recently installed
larger PL 2.2 XL TSL's.

The 1230 is more then powerful enough to turn my XL's
and I'm happy that I purchased one.

They normally are sold online for $ 69.99

But my LHS is selling them for $ 50.99 :shock:

think I'd better buy another, before that proprietor
figures out he could net more profit.
edit: the store owner figured out his pricing fubar.
so $ 69.99 it is. ~ was swell for a day tho' ~

500 oz/in @ 6v
and if it's not for real... it's gotta be near to that.

Way cheaper then a Hitec 7950
and purdy much the same torque.

Save a buck and try one ;-)

Savox SA1230SG Digital Servo
 
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They are great servos, I put the 1231S on mine right before the snow started to fly around here. I painted a couple coats of the liquid electrical tape on the seams to waterproof it, just in case. I don't go swimming with it, but my back yard turns into a shallow swamp when it rains. And mine sold for 69.95 at the lhs.
 
Mike Flea said:
They are great servos, I put the 1231S on mine right before the snow started to fly around here. I painted a couple coats of the liquid electrical tape on the seams to waterproof it, just in case. I don't go swimming with it, but my back yard turns into a shallow swamp when it rains. And mine sold for 69.95 at the lhs.
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I haven't wp'fd mine... yet
first had to see if it was worth the time involved.

very pleased with my 1230's performance... so I think it is

Besides sealing your servo case...
did you put an O-ring and some grease
behind the servo horn (on the output shaft) ?
Majority of servos will see moisture enter thru
the output shaft's opening. (thru-around bearing)
Some pak the gears with grease.
But an O-ring with some grease, sandwiched
between the horn and servo case...
can be just as effective.

Just be sure the O-ring is not sandwiched
excessively tight and restricts output shaft movement.

^ that and some L.etape at the base of the servo's input wiring as well.

Maybe these have sealed bearings on the output shaft ? :dunno:
so adding the O-ring, in that case, would be an added measure.

----------------

^ I just randomly type what I know
you probably all ready knew or read of what I typed.

but if it's helpful to anyone else following...
then it's worth the the time and type.
 
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I moved the drag link ball end to the rearward surface of the servo horn
was having some steering ball end - horn bind a max steer (only one direction).
now it has zero restriction /@ full 30* L/R swing.

maybe the wraith was supposed to be assembled this way originally !?
guess maybe I didn't look at that step

...whatever,
this way lets me run max L/R steer with no linkage/ball end resistance.
a smooth fluid movement must surely be appreciated by the servo.
My Uni's are at their limit anyways.

Steers really good !
 
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I didn't do the o ring because I didn't think there would be enough clearance, and I didn't want it to bind, but I did put a ring of die-electric grease around the output shaft, inside the case, so when I put it back together, a bit squeezed out, so I knew it was sealed. I had done the same with the Hi-Tec servo that was on there before.
 
gave the TSL XL's a little work out.

setup on this run...

3S LiPo
HH BR/XL ESC
HH Exp 35T motor
87/14 (48P)
CCBEC @ 6v
Savox SA1230SG servo
FS GT3-C Tx/Rx
PL TSL SX/XL tires (on Axial Method wheels)

! yes I know
the BR/XL's internal BEC output is 6v
but I intend to purchase the HH "Y" adapter,
by-pass the RX, then feed the servo directly off the CCBEC/Batt.
Then the BR/XL's internal 6v BEC will feed the rx.

it's working just fine wired as is...
but a more efficient method seems worthy.


https://youtu.be/Gbm-UYKWCag

post run...
did very well in the rocks
like the Savox servo a bunch
so much that I picked up another for muh Honcho
also got a new PL TSL XL spare mounted "thumbsup"
 
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You appear to have better control with the bigger tires and the new servo, lot smoother run than your previous excursions "thumbsup"
 
Mike Flea said:
You appear to have better control with the bigger tires and the new servo, lot smoother run than your previous excursions "thumbsup"
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absolutely !
Besides the servo having the necessary torque needed to turn these XL tires...
I contribute smooth running at a slow crawl speeds
as well, having some good wheel speed control...
because of the HH exp 35T motor and BR/XL ESC combination.
The 87/14 gearing surely isn't about top speed.
But combined with the HH's components and 3S LiPo creates tons of low end torque/delivered smoothly
and with just the right amount of wheel speed for my likes/wants.

It's tougher then it looks too.
rolled it down at least 5 or so 20-30ft hills, strewn with rock,
and no damage occurred.
Except the plastic body gets gouged up a little more
from each occurrence :cry:

I really gotta stop doing that :twisted:

Gula said:
That's a pretty bad ass rig you built!
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...Thanks for saying

I'm not sure if it's "bad ass"
but I surely think it's swell ;-)
 
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^ the prior attempt was dull/boring I know

Had some bugs and problems on this day's run
but managed to capture a little of the Honcho in action.

edit: 2-07-16
figured out my glitch in the hitch
would seem the TX has failed internally
re-binding did not improve the issue
Was verified by using another TX I have
guess it's time to purchase a new TX :evil:


https://youtu.be/Hm6o1faEDrM

Used to like my Honcho plenty...
and it's still a great 1/10 scale crawler.

But thinking I like my larger scale TJ more.
And I'm not even a jeep fan.

Maybe bigger tires on the Honcho will garner my future interest !?
more money thrown into that black hole :evil:
...hmmm
 
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Leave the Honcho on 1.9''s and have both a 2.2'' TJ and the 1.9'' Honcho

You can't put the 2.2'' rims and BFG's on the Honcho

Are you not using the pin type hubs that come with the Axial rims ??

I have extra Axial pin type hubs in both lengths that come with the rims

If you need them ??

you can have them

Have a nice day :flipoff:
 
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kgb424 said:
Leave the Honcho on 1.9''s and have both a 2.2'' TJ and the 1.9'' Honcho

You can't put the 2.2'' rims and BFG's on the Honcho

Are you not using the pin type hubs that come with the Axial rims ??

I have extra Axial pin type hubs in both lengths that come with the rims

If you need them ??

you can have them

Have a nice day :flipoff:
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...thanks for the offer
but I must decline

I use the hex mount hubs not the original pin mount.

No I wouldn't put 2.2's on my Honcho
But 1.9 PL TSL XL's might do.

But first I need work out an e bug issue I have going :evil:
 
I did not know Axial made the plastic hex type hubs for your wheels

When I bought my IDF rims they came with the pin type hubs

and they were either too short or too long and I don't like them

So I bought the Vanquish alloy .475 mm hubs which is a in between sized hub
 
kgb424 said:
I did not know Axial made the plastic hex type hubs
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The original pin mounts suck IMO
I tend to lose the pins if removing the wheel :evil:
others have claimed to strip or break them.

Axial ifd hex hub conversion kit = AX31074

comes with both long and short plastic hex hubs
( not sure if they are the same lengths as the pin mount hubs ? )
and set screw alloy hex's for the stub axles.
I've never had one fail... but the radial run out isn't as precise
as alloy hubs/wheels would be.
^ ( so seating the plastic hex hub flush to the wheel is less then precise )

^ so still not as good as alloy hubs... ie: Vanquish SLW hubs
but they cost less to purchase and are better then pin mounting IMO.

Kind of a waste of money to utilize a quality alloy hub
on a less then great, quality, plastic wheel.

But the Vanquish SLW hubs fit the Axial ifd wheels
and would likely improve the run out of even plastic wheels.

Tho' I personally wouldn't buy them
unless I had compatible alloy wheels to mount.
 
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I have looked at SLW type alloy rims, and by the time,

You buy the rims and the separate bead lock rings and the hardware and hubs

Your looking at over $200 dollars closer to $250 a set, screw that

I have been looking at 2.2'' knock off's on Ebay

Some of them use SLW type hubs

And some are fixed hubs

Cause I really the 2.2'' RC4WD Humvee rims but they have a fixed hub

And not sure if the offset will work for my 1/6 scale Humvee

If I buy the knock off's that use SLW type hubs, I can adjust the offset with different hubs

and the knocks are very reasonably priced compared to the Vanquish, and some of the other rims I was looking at
 
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