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Legal Body Panels Help Guide and Disscussion
- Thread starter Fishmaxx
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JeremyH
I wanna be Dave
That looks legal to me. Both measurements are larger than 1" and 2x2.5=5"sq.
Highlucks
Try to Bend it
AdverseCity
Rock Crawler
Bump, I'm also curious about putting panels inside the chassis plates....
ClassicGMJunkie
Quarry Creeper
2.1.4.1.3 -Body panels must be solidly installed in a manner that is representative of a 1:1 vehicle.
I have never seen sheet metal installed to a roll cage's framework or inside the perimeter of a tube frame/chassis on a 1:1 to represent a "body" ;-)
I have never seen sheet metal installed to a roll cage's framework or inside the perimeter of a tube frame/chassis on a 1:1 to represent a "body" ;-)
JeremyH
I wanna be Dave
You've never seen an exo cage?
ClassicGMJunkie
Quarry Creeper
aren't those to protect a "body" but not make up the actual "frame"of the vehicle itself? i know where you are going.... lol
this is grey area, not grey matter. :lmao:
this is grey area, not grey matter. :lmao:
JeremyH
I wanna be Dave
I agree...it is grey. However, I have never seen a 1:1 skin that makes up the actual frame. I also dont see him mounting those skins on the inside being any sort of advantage....actually, I see that hurting him. An exterior skin would give a smooth transition over the supports in that chassis so that nothing would get hung up.
And besides, who would want to cover up that awesome chassis?
And besides, who would want to cover up that awesome chassis?
ClassicGMJunkie
Quarry Creeper
Now let's say he added lexan to cover the frame. if he wanted to mimic the frame in a delrin "skeleton" that was identical to the frame, and use it on the outermost layer, I don't see the illegality of that because the "body" is already there.
EvilTwin v2
I wanna be Dave
I agree that in this case, it really isn't an advantage. My only problem with allowing this is you open the door to people running and skin inside on a chassis such as a T1e that has a narrow inner chassis and a much wider cab. ...actually, It's not so much that the skin is inside, but I'd like to see it required to be outside of the cab, so that they either have to get creative with bends or give up a slight amount of side clearance.
On the example above, the skin isn't what's going to help or hurt performance. Those exposed, out boarded links are going to catch everything without something to aid in the transition.
JeremyH
I wanna be Dave
Do you mean between the upper cab and the chassis? I already see plenty of people doing that...
rock hard
dnf
actually the sheet metel on a 1:1 is the body,and I have seen it mounted on the inside before.
rock hard
dnf
as long as the vehicle meets all measurements then I see no problem and dont think there should be one.
I also dont see a reason to create a scenario where a person has to be "creative" with the bends or lose clearance.
clearance isnt an issue,width isnt an issue,performance isnt an issue....
its the I DONT LIKE IT issue.
Some people thnk thier trucks looks betetr a certain way,doesnt mean it has an advantage,just that it looks betetr to them,then someone says "wait a minute"!cuz they dont like it for whatever reason.
Its thier truck,if it meeets all specified requirements it should be legal,and changing the rules to force someone to make thier truck look a certsin way,or be creative with bends,ect wont help the hobby,or improve a level playing field IMO.
Is there an official interpretation of the latest discussion above on mounting panels yet? I have my side panels mounted directly on the outside of the lower chassis plates. Is this accepted in US comps?
My current understanding of the rules tells me this should be ok.
My current understanding of the rules tells me this should be ok.
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Speedracer19
Rock Crawler
Let's get this out of the way first, what is your interpretation of "Solid"?
hbj069
RCC Addict
You will have to explain how he is supposed to flip his losi crawler over when its upside down first!!
see his thread in http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/rules/373398-2012-rules-9.html#post3898522
see his thread in http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/rules/373398-2012-rules-9.html#post3898522
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As a physicist my primary interpretation is "not fluid". So not a gas, liquid or plasma. Even trying to have fluid side panels is stupid, so that can't be the correct interpretation here...
Next I'd say "no holes". "Canvas top" is very much in line with what some 1:1 crawlers use, so that would be legal.
C*H*U*D
No idea what I'm doing
I have a question about the hood panel, and the Rules Committee's interpretation of "exposed".
▪ 2.1.5.1.4 - All panels (roof, hood, and sides) must have at least 2x measurements greater than 1", and a minimum of 3.5 square inches of exposed solid surface area.
How far past the A-pillar, and into the cab is the panel allowed to extend, before it is no longer considered exposed? For example, is it possible to have 1/4" of hood extending out from the cab, and have the hood panel sit inside the cab to make up the required 3.5 square inches?
▪ 2.1.5.1.4 - All panels (roof, hood, and sides) must have at least 2x measurements greater than 1", and a minimum of 3.5 square inches of exposed solid surface area.
How far past the A-pillar, and into the cab is the panel allowed to extend, before it is no longer considered exposed? For example, is it possible to have 1/4" of hood extending out from the cab, and have the hood panel sit inside the cab to make up the required 3.5 square inches?
