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Ittybitty's BERG
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nicodrive01
Rock Crawler
That was fast, Ryan, Hulks arrived today and they are where they have to be, in my Berg! Thanks for this amazing service "thumbsup"
I've had a few customers recently asking about the weight of the tires I make compared to the shaved Boss Claws and others that they're seeing in so many of these light weight builds going on. I ended up building a set for a customer this week, and then took it upon myself to see what else I could do. Most shaved Boss Claws that I'm seeing end up around 85g per tire with the pattern cut...and most of them have been cut every other row so that's a lot of tread lugs that have been removed.
My current setup consists of narrowed red dot Khaos tires with Rover sidewalls on the front and narrowed red dot Blocks with Rover sidewalls on the rear. With just a little more work these could easily be in the same weight range as the Boss Claws. The benefits of these tires over the Boss Claws are worth every milligram to me...I hate Boss Claw beads. The added height of the narrowed Khaos and Blocks is just another valuable benefit.
Here are the current weights of my tires...
Khaos-Rover - I'm pretty sure if these were cut every other row they'd easily be around the 85g mark
Block-Rover
Just think if I cleaned them they'd probably be 1g lighter too :lmao: This was just an FYI for those that were curious of the weights "thumbsup"
My current setup consists of narrowed red dot Khaos tires with Rover sidewalls on the front and narrowed red dot Blocks with Rover sidewalls on the rear. With just a little more work these could easily be in the same weight range as the Boss Claws. The benefits of these tires over the Boss Claws are worth every milligram to me...I hate Boss Claw beads. The added height of the narrowed Khaos and Blocks is just another valuable benefit.
Here are the current weights of my tires...
Khaos-Rover - I'm pretty sure if these were cut every other row they'd easily be around the 85g mark
Block-Rover
Just think if I cleaned them they'd probably be 1g lighter too :lmao: This was just an FYI for those that were curious of the weights "thumbsup"
Farmer
RCC Addict
That's cool to know"thumbsup" I have a set of red dot blocks with Sedona sidewalks that are narrowed. Probably a bit heavier with the sedona sidewall than the rover. You made them for Rick from SuperShafty.com I'm gonna put them to use this weekend at our points series. This will be my first attempt with any pin tires:shock:
Later,
Farmer
Later,
Farmer
Yeah I remember building those for him. The Blocks have been great tires for me and I've just recently swapped to the Khaos up front. This happened after I tried running my heavily "broken in" red dot blocks on the rear and liking them a lot there...they were my front tires for quite some time. Now they're buttery smooth on the rear 8)
chicklet
I wanna be Dave
Hahaha you said buttery smooth on the rear....
This rig is continuing to work very well for me and put me in the top 10 at ECC this weekend with a 9th place finish which played a huge role in helping bring home the 1st place Overall win. The only issue I had with the rig throughout the competition was that the MTHead delrin rings came into contact with the VP knuckle weights and tried to bind up. With the front struggling to pull and the rear overdriving quite a bit it was hard to put the rig where it needed to be. I swapped to some VP inner beadlock rings and didn't have any more issues.
Check out my new wheels 8)
Check out my new wheels 8)
63comet
Rock Crawler
Congrats man! Rig and tires look great"thumbsup"
So although I'm in no way seeking an uber light weight rig I figured since I was picking up some new Al and Ti hardware to go with some updates for my super class rig that I'd throw some new hardware on the 2.2pro as well.
I'm still waiting on the Al hardware which will include screws and nyloc nuts, but I went ahead and replaced the screws that I felt needed to be stronger than an Al screw such as the link mounts at the axles and chassis and the shock mounts as well. All in all I replaced 33 screws that were either black oxide or stainless with Ti hardware. Here's the results...
That's a difference of 13g and I'm still running stainless nyloc nuts everywhere and my VP wheels are still running all 12 beadlock screws and 6 hub screws. I'll be replacing all of them with Al hardware when it arrives. Just having some fun with some "routine maintenance" of sorts "thumbsup"
I'm still waiting on the Al hardware which will include screws and nyloc nuts, but I went ahead and replaced the screws that I felt needed to be stronger than an Al screw such as the link mounts at the axles and chassis and the shock mounts as well. All in all I replaced 33 screws that were either black oxide or stainless with Ti hardware. Here's the results...
That's a difference of 13g and I'm still running stainless nyloc nuts everywhere and my VP wheels are still running all 12 beadlock screws and 6 hub screws. I'll be replacing all of them with Al hardware when it arrives. Just having some fun with some "routine maintenance" of sorts "thumbsup"
Grimreeper
Rock Crawler
Like your rig needs any help with performance."thumbsup" I need to do the same but....... I am lazy.
Continuing with the hardware replacement I received our order of Al hardware today and started with the wheels. Here's what I found...
48 zinc plated beadlock (3 x 6mm) screws and 24 zinc plated hub screws (4-40 x 1/4- 32g
48 Al beadlock (3x6mm) screws and 24 Al hub screws (4-40 x 5/16) - 12g
24 Al beadlock (3x6mm) screws - 4g
I'm going to run all 6 hub screws on each wheel and only 3 of the beadlock screws per ring on the SLW's. This means I shed 24g by switching to Al hardware in the wheels. I may go back and put 3 more in each outer ring simply because I like the look of 6 screws much more than only having 3 and it's only 2g :shock:
So at this point I've changed some of the hardware to Ti and some to Al and shed a total of 37g or 1.30513659oz. This brings my RTR weight with an 800mah 3S to 4lbs 13.2oz.
I've got the screws to replace all of the ones holding the case halves together, rear lockouts to tubes, front c-hubs to tubes, as well as 8-10 stainless nuts to replace. I'll update again when I finish...
48 zinc plated beadlock (3 x 6mm) screws and 24 zinc plated hub screws (4-40 x 1/4- 32g
48 Al beadlock (3x6mm) screws and 24 Al hub screws (4-40 x 5/16) - 12g
24 Al beadlock (3x6mm) screws - 4g
I'm going to run all 6 hub screws on each wheel and only 3 of the beadlock screws per ring on the SLW's. This means I shed 24g by switching to Al hardware in the wheels. I may go back and put 3 more in each outer ring simply because I like the look of 6 screws much more than only having 3 and it's only 2g :shock:
So at this point I've changed some of the hardware to Ti and some to Al and shed a total of 37g or 1.30513659oz. This brings my RTR weight with an 800mah 3S to 4lbs 13.2oz.
I've got the screws to replace all of the ones holding the case halves together, rear lockouts to tubes, front c-hubs to tubes, as well as 8-10 stainless nuts to replace. I'll update again when I finish...
Harvo
I wanna be Dave
Don't put aluminum in for the knuckle bolts. If seen two of them break off.
No worries...I put Ti screws in there...if I second guess the strength of using an Al screw in one place I end up using Ti instead "thumbsup"
GEARSCIENCE
Rock Crawler
Its official, the light weight craze has spared no one!
if you sold full ti and al screw kits for Berg and xr's do you think it would be profitable? Im too lazy to order all the bits and pieces so a kit would be sweet!
if you sold full ti and al screw kits for Berg and xr's do you think it would be profitable? Im too lazy to order all the bits and pieces so a kit would be sweet!
Grimreeper
Rock Crawler
that does sound like a good idea. If anyone has done it already they did not advertise very good.
Profitable...maybe. The problem is there are so many variations in how people have their rigs setup that one kit for XR's and one for Bergs wouldn't go very far. It might work out better for XR's in general, but Bergs especially have more configurations.
The reason behind having the Al and Ti screws on hand is I plan to have an assortment of sizes available on our site very soon.
The reason behind having the Al and Ti screws on hand is I plan to have an assortment of sizes available on our site very soon.
Some pics of my rig in action at Battlegrounds 2012
I'm going "THAT" way
Bergs can fly...
This did not go as planned...
East Coast RC Cut 'n Shuts hookin up...
Bergs like to fly...
Cool shot of the finals course...
The climb that ended my finals run...:twisted:
I'm going "THAT" way
Bergs can fly...
This did not go as planned...
East Coast RC Cut 'n Shuts hookin up...
Bergs like to fly...
Cool shot of the finals course...
The climb that ended my finals run...:twisted:
