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HobbiCo / Great Planes / Tower Hobbies

Jim85IROC said:
That's why I drive a Silverado. I would have considered a 4 door 6 speed Tacoma mainly because it's the only truck you can buy with a manual transmission now, but the cost for a used one is insane. I was looking at 8-10 year old trucks and still couldn't afford one. My 8 year old (at the time of purchase) Silverado was about 20% cheaper than an equivalent 6 speed Tacoma. Plus the bed in the 4 door Tacomas is so small that it's only useful for collecting beer cans.

:lmao::lmao::lmao:

I love Wranglers, but the new ones aren't reliable for shit. My wife had a 2002 and that vehicle was great. They may not be Toyota reliable either, but you can do a whole tune up in 20 minutes without moving from the passenger side of the engine compartment. Parts were cheap, everything was simple, and it just worked. The newer ones with that POS pentastar V6 are crap, but she wants another Jeep, so I imagine I'll be getting acquainted with the guy at the parts counter soon enough...
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Exactly. I have a 2005 Wrangler Rubicon and that thing is the most reliable 13-year-old vehicle I own. That I6 is bulletproof.


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Jim85IROC said:
That's why I drive a Silverado. I would have considered a 4 door 6 speed Tacoma mainly because it's the only truck you can buy with a manual transmission now, but the cost for a used one is insane. I was looking at 8-10 year old trucks and still couldn't afford one. My 8 year old (at the time of purchase) Silverado was about 20% cheaper than an equivalent 6 speed Tacoma. Plus the bed in the 4 door Tacomas is so small that it's only useful for collecting beer cans.

:lmao::lmao::lmao:

I love Wranglers, but the new ones aren't reliable for shit. My wife had a 2002 and that vehicle was great. They may not be Toyota reliable either, but you can do a whole tune up in 20 minutes without moving from the passenger side of the engine compartment. Parts were cheap, everything was simple, and it just worked. The newer ones with that POS pentastar V6 are crap, but she wants another Jeep, so I imagine I'll be getting acquainted with the guy at the parts counter soon enough...
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Agreed. My last Jeep was a 2004 Grand Cherokee with an inline 6 w/ part-time 4WD. It was a pretty solid vehicle. When I went to look at replacing it, I couldn't touch a two year old, low mileage one for less than $28k (I paid $14k for mine in 2006). Plus, the quality really dropped after the 2006 facelift. When I bought my econo-box commuter used at a Dodge/Jeep dealer two years ago, I was horrified at what Jeep is charging these days. $35-45K for a Wrangler? :roll:
 
ThatJeeper2017 said:
Exactly. I have a 2005 Wrangler Rubicon and that thing is the most reliable 13-year-old vehicle I own. That I6 is bulletproof.


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Not only is that I6 bulletproof, but it'll run on cat piss, and the entire drivetrain in that jeep can be maintained with a hammer and pipe wrench. :lmao:

I'm already afraid of the JK Unlimited that my wife wants. DOHC v6 motor in a jeep? No, no, no, no. It's a mall toy now. That DOHC POS is not only unreliable, but makes it's torque in all the wrong places. I really wish I had the time to find one with a bad motor so I could do an LS swap. Then again, I'd also like to gut the wiring and get rid of all the networked CAN bus crap and go back to discrete wiring so I don't need to reprogram the computer every time I want to change a window switch. Speaking of which, why the hell do the new jeeps need power windows? And who thought it was a good idea to mount the mirrors on the doors? And....
 
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Jim85IROC said:
Parts were cheap, everything was simple, and it just worked. The newer ones with that POS pentastar V6 are crap, but she wants another Jeep, so I imagine I'll be getting acquainted with the guy at the parts counter soon enough...
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I always see complaints about the "POS Pentastar" but I'm hoping you're referring to the 3.8L and not necessarily the 3.6L, which is the actual improvement and inside all the models past 2012.
 
Jim85IROC said:
Not only is that I6 bulletproof, but it'll run on cat piss, and the entire drivetrain in that jeep can be maintained with a hammer and pipe wrench. :lmao:
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I had a '79 CJ-5 with the 4.2 six and that thing could not be killed. It had a bad rear main seal leak and I would run out of oil on the highway once in awhile. No problem. just drive home and dump 5 quarts in, idle for a few to get things moving and go about my business.
 
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The old 318/360 V8's are solid too. My 20 year old ZJ still runs reliability - though my exhaust fell off on the last 400 mile road trip I took, but there was a deer incident and some rust as well.
 
The I6 is bullet proof because it's anemic. :lmao:

And even that engine would wreak havoc on the Dana 35s.
 
I never had a power issue with either version of the I6. :flipoff:

That GM supplied 2.8L V-6 that they put in the XJs in the 80s, however... :lmao:
 
Jim85IROC said:
That's why I drive a Silverado. I would have considered a 4 door 6 speed Tacoma mainly because it's the only truck you can buy with a manual transmission now, but the cost for a used one is insane. I was looking at 8-10 year old trucks and still couldn't afford one. My 8 year old (at the time of purchase) Silverado was about 20% cheaper than an equivalent 6 speed Tacoma. Plus the bed in the 4 door Tacomas is so small that it's only useful for collecting beer cans.

:lmao::lmao::lmao:

I love Wranglers, but the new ones aren't reliable for shit. My wife had a 2002 and that vehicle was great. They may not be Toyota reliable either, but you can do a whole tune up in 20 minutes without moving from the passenger side of the engine compartment. Parts were cheap, everything was simple, and it just worked. The newer ones with that POS pentastar V6 are crap, but she wants another Jeep, so I imagine I'll be getting acquainted with the guy at the parts counter soon enough...
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Exactly. That thing gets horrible fuel economy but you could dump a milkshake in there and it would still run. Also jeeps are still so easy to work on, and parts are plentiful even for the newest models.


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skinnyj said:
I had a '79 CJ-5 with the 4.2 six and that thing could not be killed. It had a bad rear main seal leak and I would run out of oil on the highway once in awhile. No problem. just drive home and dump 5 quarts in, idle for a few to get things moving and go about my business.
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My rear main seal leaked on my I6, as well as the oil pan. Seems common.


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ThatJeeper2017 said:
That’s why you don’t wheel on D35s. Now D44s however.


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Back when I used to read 4 wheeling magazines, that was usually the first thing to get swapped out. If I recall, the "Jeep Owners Bible" pointed out that the 35s had a really weak, two-piece shaft design that was prone to failure if you did any major 'wheeling.
 
ThatJeeper2017 said:
That’s why you don’t wheel on D35s. Now D44s however.
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Excuses, excuses. It's a Jeep thing! "thumbsup":lmao:

I do like the TJs. New Jeeps don't do as much for me. I'll always prefer the CJs with V8s though because that's what I grew up with.

I remember I was with my uncle, who is only a few years older than me, driving his Jeep around doing wheelies on more than one occasion. On one drive the Jeep resisted the wheelie and threw the rear driveshaft. We drove home in 4WD which was only FWD because of the missing driveshaft. :lmao: Good times.
 
Sneetches said:
I always see complaints about the "POS Pentastar" but I'm hoping you're referring to the 3.8L and not necessarily the 3.6L, which is the actual improvement and inside all the models past 2012.
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I've got the 3.6l in my 200, it's a little soft on torque off idle compared to the 4.0l, but I can manually put the 6 speed auto in 4th gear and pull away from a dead stop at signs or lights in the car and once it's past 1800rpm, it's got torque everywhere and will try and run to 7 grand on the tach if I let it. Weird feeling coming from a 4.0l/AW4/NV24× XJ as a daily:shock:
 
skinnyj said:
Back when I used to read 4 wheeling magazines, that was usually the first thing to get swapped out. If I recall, the "Jeep Owners Bible" pointed out that the 35s had a really weak, two-piece shaft design that was prone to failure if you did any major 'wheeling.
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The Chrysler 8.25s are junk too.
 
Sneetches said:
I always see complaints about the "POS Pentastar" but I'm hoping you're referring to the 3.8L and not necessarily the 3.6L, which is the actual improvement and inside all the models past 2012.
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The 3.6 seems to be a better motor now that they figured out how to keep (most) of the heads attached to the block. Seems like they had a big problem with the heads warping at first. I've got a friend with a 2014 or 2015 GC that was on it's 3rd set of cylinder heads before the truck was a year old.

Then again, the 4.7l in my POS 04 Grand Cherokee couldn't keep the heads from curling up either. I guess some traditions are hard to break.
 
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