a quick question for you gun gurus

[Bigfeet]

Just saw this on Amazon. Amazon.com: UAG Mosin Nagant 2-7x32 Long Eye Relief Scope + New Generation Weaver Rail Mount + Scope Rings+ Lens Covers+Lens Cleaning Kit: Sports & Outdoors Never set up a scope for a Mosin before, it looks like scout scope is the easiest way to go.

 

[Cypher]

A $50 gun with a $1000 scope will shoot better than a $1000 gun and a $50 scope. Save some cash and spend the money to get a good quality scope. A larger tube will give you better light during low light shooting so go as big as you can.

this!
And this
Nikon ProStaff Waterproof 3-9x40 Riflescopes Rifle scope 6320 6311 6310 3-9x40mm
I love nikon scopes they are very good bright scopes this is the lower end nikons but they are still very good, very bright, and durable they are waterproof, and fog proof. I have a nikon buckmaster 4.5-14x40 its $360 but i got it on sale for $220.
The nikon grades are prostaff(low grade) buckmaster(mid grade) than monarch(high grade)

 

[dkf]

Just curious why you need 9" of eye relief?
And the Banner scopes get my vote also.

He wants to mount the scope where the rear sight sits. On the Mosin the bolt handle stick straight out the side of the bolt and swings up and back when opened. Thus making it more difficult to mount a scope like you would on a more traditional design like the Model 70, 700 and etc.

 

[Pat M]

I have a Mosin ( and have been shooting long range tactical / sniper shoots for over a decade now ), i went with the long eye relief scope & mont set up ( the scope wasn't bad -for the price- but the mount is crap. Order the action monted kit that makes you tap the reciever / a cheap good scope for this rifle would be a 3x9-40 Tasco mildot ( some one with some know how will be needed for tapping the reciever - the drill bit and tap in the kit is crap )

I did my own turned down bolt, and still have the bent bolt kit part some where.

If you have any questions, just give a call, will be happy to help where i can.

Pat - 509-670-5923

 

[dunerinaz]

Stop considering the price of the rifle when considering a scope. I'm mostly into hunting rifles and rimfires, but all have scopes and almost all of the scopes cost more than the rifle they're mounted on. It's common for the scope to cost more. At a quick glance, a $50 scope may look no different than a $300+ scope, but when the time comes to really put them to the test is when that $50 scope will rear it's ugly head. Losing zero is just one issue. Optics is a big deal to me. A cheap scope will tend to have a lot more glare if shooting in bright sunlight. The optics will not be nearly as clear when zoomed to high power. And even if things look great, the cheap scope won't last, at least not on a high powered rifle like mosin. Nikon makes a few lesser expensive models as well as Mueller. Just do your homework and you won't be kicking yourself later, trust me.

 

[GySgt Hartman]

You didn't listen the first time...

Iron sights are what I'd recommend for you.

 

[93 FORD BRONCO]

He wants to mount the scope where the rear sight sits. On the Mosin the bolt handle stick straight out the side of the bolt and swings up and back when opened. Thus making it more difficult to mount a scope like you would on a more traditional design like the Model 70, 700 and etc.

exactly. i was going to get a bent bolt handle nad go with a pu sniper scope but decided against it since its cheaper to scout scope it

I have a Mosin ( and have been shooting long range tactical / sniper shoots for over a decade now ), i went with the long eye relief scope & mont set up ( the scope wasn't bad -for the price- but the mount is crap. Order the action monted kit that makes you tap the reciever / a cheap good scope for this rifle would be a 3x9-40 Tasco mildot ( some one with some know how will be needed for tapping the reciever - the drill bit and tap in the kit is crap )

I did my own turned down bolt, and still have the bent bolt kit part some where.

If you have any questions, just give a call, will be happy to help where i can.

Pat - 509-670-5923

thanks for the info man ill look up that scope right now. as far as the mount, like i said i got really good quality 3/8 scope rings to mount right to the dovetail. im going to stay away from mounts that require tapping or altering the rifle in any way thats not reversible.

Stop considering the price of the rifle when considering a scope. I'm mostly into hunting rifles and rimfires, but all have scopes and almost all of the scopes cost more than the rifle they're mounted on. It's common for the scope to cost more. At a quick glance, a $50 scope may look no different than a $300+ scope, but when the time comes to really put them to the test is when that $50 scope will rear it's ugly head. Losing zero is just one issue. Optics is a big deal to me. A cheap scope will tend to have a lot more glare if shooting in bright sunlight. The optics will not be nearly as clear when zoomed to high power. And even if things look great, the cheap scope won't last, at least not on a high powered rifle like mosin. Nikon makes a few lesser expensive models as well as Mueller. Just do your homework and you won't be kicking yourself later, trust me.

ok well thanks for the info. what is the least amount of money you would spend on a scope? if i end up getting a higher dollar scope i still would like to try to keep under $200 i paid $158 in total for the rifle. its my personal decision to not spend more on a scope than the rifle. i just cant justify it. also like i said earlier if im going to spend that much money on a scope, why not just go out and buy a whole new gun with a scope already mounted for the same price as the scope itself. thats my thinking anyways

You didn't listen the first time...

Iron sights are what I'd recommend for you.

why iron sights? i dont really have a problem with the mosins sights but i dont have the best eye sight in the world and when im shooting 75 yards or more it gets pretty hard to see the target with just iron sights with a scope its not a problem

what didnt i listen to the first time?

 

[hende]

If you drill and tap and want to reverse it later slap some mud in the hole just be sure to rub it in good"thumbsup"

 

[gunnar]

Couldn't you just pretend to have a scope? Ya know, like try it out first? That way, you could see if you really want one. Just get a toilet paper tube, pluck a few pubes for crosshairs, then duct tape the "scope" on your Mosin. If it looks cool, then go find a scout scope.

 

[GySgt Hartman]

what didnt i listen to the first time?

22lr...

 

[hende]

Out of 17 guns before the boat wreck I shot my 22 the most not due to price really more fun

 

[gunnar]

Yea, but a .22 in not a REAL gun!:ror:

Mosin is much louder.

 

[93 FORD BRONCO]

Couldn't you just pretend to have a scope? Ya know, like try it out first? That way, you could see if you really want one. Just get a toilet paper tube, pluck a few pubes for crosshairs, then duct tape the "scope" on your Mosin. If it looks cool, then go find a scout scope.

It's funny you say that. I have a $500 trijicon scope at home but it's not a long eye relief so I can't use it. But what I did was like u said. Tape it on there just to see if I liked the look.

22lr...

oh yea. Well like I said then. I'm not gona spend money on something I personally won't enjoy. I beleive we went over this in that thread and I don't really care to dig up the past. So lets just get back on topic here

Yea, but a .22 in not a REAL gun!:ror:

Mosin is much louder.

a mosin is so much louder! And 100x more fun to shoot. The ammo is cheaper than .22lr too.

 

[dezfan]

The bulk Federal Champion I fire runs about .04 a round.

The cheapest bulk Bulgarian spam can of 7.62x54 440 (x2) comes out to roughly .27 a round.

Granted that's cheap, but cheaper than 22LR?

 

[93 FORD BRONCO]

The bulk Federal Champion I fire runs about .04 a round.

The cheapest bulk Bulgarian spam can of 7.62x54 440 (x2) comes out to roughly .27 a round.

Granted that's cheap, but cheaper than 22LR?

Ahh. Ok. I didn't know that. I must have been lookin at high priced .22lr when I did the math the .22lr came out to be more per round than 7.62 surplus.

Oh I see why our prices came out different. You priced bulk ammo. Which is cheaper by the round. I buy like 20 rounds at a time.

 

[dezfan]

That would make the 7.62 even more expensive per round.

Say you were shooting Eley 22LR match grade ammo, it runs .17 a round.

The cheapest bulk Bulgarian and Russian 20 count box I've encountered run 6.00 a box which is .30 a round.

 

[93 FORD BRONCO]

That would make the 7.62 even more expensive per round.

Say you were shooting Eley match grade ammo, it runs .17 a round.

The cheapest bulk Bulgarian and Russian 20 count box I've encountered run 6.00 a box which is .30 a round.

Yea I know it's more expensive that way. That's what I was sayin. But let's get back on topic here. This thread isn't about ammo prices.

When I get back home to Florida I'm going to double check my trijicon scope to see if the eye relief is long enough. But I'm 99.9% sure it's to short.

 

[dezfan]

You're the one who brought it up. :ror:

 

[jetboat]

Sunday is the Kane Cnty sportsman show at the fairgrounds there in St Charles (near where you are this week). They almost always have good used scopes and 1 booth manned by a couple that I dont think speaks english, that have all the cheap scopes you could want. Go over and look at them in person. If you want someone to go with... I might be encouraged.

I spent $80 on a bsa 4-16x40 for my range ar. I didnt have the cash for teh Nikon m223 that I want and I wanted to get shooting. Ive put over 300 rounds thru it and can shoot 1" at 200 yrds. It is possible to shoot well with a cheap scope, just not as likely.

 

[dunerinaz]

Sounds like you should've thought things through a little more before buying the rifle.