A deeper look within the Redcat Everest 10 crawler

[MordyNYC]

I flew planes for years....still do from time to time. Most or all outrunners you can flip the shaft to work either way

I have seen one outrunner and it did good....dont know his setup but will find out. The vids I have seen like the one you posted have a lot of motor/esc frequency noise at startup. its loud on the vid and even louder in person. Its not sensored so they could have cogging issues. Its hard to find the right brushless esc that can handle crawling at slow speeds...and give you a smooth fwd/rev and good drag brake. You can if you spend $150 or so.

I run a $70 brushless hobbies esc but it took some work finding and installing the speed pasion firmware to get it to work good for crawling.

I dont think that scorpion motor is the best choice....to overpriced.
This kv might be a bit low but it would be a beast
NTM Prop Drive Series 42-48 650KV / 1295W

this is a bit smaller dia. but still has some grunt and has 25mm mounting holes
NTM Prop Drive 35-48 Series 900KV / 815W

Just what I would start with....They look good on paper

I agree that was just a pic for reference. I want the longer shaft to go trannyless. The issue is the stal torque, so a high powered one with more torque should alleviate cogging and burning out, but then you have all that wasted potential power.
I saw HK's vid and comments on those NTPs they seem like great motors, but is the shaft removable? There would be a c-clip on the end and grub on the front I cant see there.

I have a HK-100A that says it is suitable for 14 poles but never tested it on an outrunner. It's like under $40 and can handle 4S. It's not sensored of course.

Supports highest motor speed 240,000RPM(2 poles), 80,000RPM(6 poles) and 40,000(12 poles).
Easy to configure with program card.

So...20K 24 poles? No idea. I know with a program card you can double the PWM frequency but that adds a lot of stress/heat to the ESC.

Are there any 12 pole Outrunners? Most i see are 14.
I wish someone can test this for us :mrgreen:

 

[UberJeep]

What are these brackets from? Thanks!

I jumped the gun before I got an answer. Ends up they fit perfect!
The front brace clears the battery. The rear brace I installed upside down and it supports the esc tray.

 

[dirtman71]

most have an eclip and a set screw. I have had a lot of outrunners and everyone has been able to switch. they need to depending what side of the fire wall they mount to the plane.


But I just looked into one of my planes and I do have a 35-36-10 outrunner. Its the same as this motor, just purple

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/...D3536_8_1000KV_Brushless_Outrunner_Motor.html

I will see if I can find the time to make the switch and see how it works

 

[dirtman71]

What are these brackets from? Thanks!

These look like them....Just a chassis brace for scx10/ax10

Dynamite DYN8053 Lateral Chassis Brace Shock Mount Axial AX10 | eBay

 

[UberJeep]

Finally read all 32 pages. Best thread I have ever read. TON of info. Thank you all for sharing. Now, to order my E10 and strip my new scx10 for parts.

 

[MordyNYC]

Finally read all 32 pages. Best thread I have ever read. TON of info. Thank you all for sharing. Now, to order my E10 and strip my new scx10 for parts.

Get a damaged box version from amazon and save even more.

 

[StomperCrawler]

Just ordered an E10, pair of Axial AX30500 and pair of AX80002 off EBAY.

I understand needing the iron-cross lockers, but why the plastic diff covers? Can't we use the existing ones?

 

[StomperCrawler]

I finally got around to making body mounts and finishing the chassis. I have a new set of wheels and tires on the way too. Now on to the body.

I LOVE this chassis!!! Any chance you might be willing to upload the design picture with measurements? Please, please, please?!?

 

[honchojoe]

I understand needing the iron-cross lockers, but why the plastic diff covers? Can't we use the existing ones?

You can use the stock one if you drill the centre out. If you can't be bothered buy new ones.

 

[UberJeep]

Ordered my E10 for 128 shipped. Also 2 metal lockers. Now to sell the scx10 carpet queen for build cash!

 

[UberJeep]

Anyone have a good recommendation for shocks when building a scale rig with the E10? Thanks!

 

[dirtman71]

Well pretty much all shocks leak. Only my 2 sets of kyosho velvet shocks I have on my sct and buggy have never leaked but at around $100 a set it a bit pricey. and the kyosho springs are $20 a pair. I have a set of proline scalers that look nice but leak. I wouldnt go much bigger than 100mm to keep the CG low

Pick a shock that looks good to you. Performance of the shock itself I feel is not as important on a crawler as a SCT, with slower speeds the shocks dont have to react nearly as fast. Having a range of springs is important to get the droop set and a range of oil weights to help the dampening and rebound

 

[UberJeep]

I don't care how they look personally. I just want to make sure they are not too soft or hard. I have the Icons on my scx10 I am selling and they work good, a bit pricey though. I will play with the stock shocks first and see how it goes. Thanks for the info. Take care.

Well pretty much all shocks leak. Only my 2 sets of kyosho velvet shocks I have on my sct and buggy have never leaked but at around $100 a set it a bit pricey. and the kyosho springs are $20 a pair. I have a set of proline scalers that look nice but leak. I wouldnt go much bigger than 100mm to keep the CG low

Pick a shock that looks good to you. Performance of the shock itself I feel is not as important on a crawler as a SCT, with slower speeds the shocks dont have to react nearly as fast. Having a range of springs is important to get the droop set and a range of oil weights to help the dampening and rebound

 

[BMoreScale]

I LOVE this chassis!!! Any chance you might be willing to upload the design picture with measurements? Please, please, please?!?

Thanks Stomper. I don't have any design files to share. I just took a piece of cardboard and used it to design the frame rails so everything would fit under the body/interior, then traced it onto the aluminum and cut with a band saw. It handles very well, but I need a more secure body mounting system as the Velcro doesn't keep it on tight enough.

 

[honchojoe]

I use stock axial shocks on my scx10, my hsp/e10 based scx10 and will be using them on both my next 2 builds. There is a thread on here that shows you how to build them without leaking.

 

[StomperCrawler]

You can use the stock one if you drill the centre out. If you can't be bothered buy new ones.

Not a bother, just cheap I guess. That and I'm always looking for the best bang for the buck!

 

[StomperCrawler]

Thanks Stomper. I don't have any design files to share. I just took a piece of cardboard and used it to design the frame rails so everything would fit under the body/interior, then traced it onto the aluminum and cut with a band saw. It handles very well, but I need a more secure body mounting system as the Velcro doesn't keep it on tight enough.

Super-magnets? I know some guys use those to hold their Wraith bodies on, but it probably wouldn't work since the body has more substantial skeleton to hold on to.

 

[MordyNYC]

Anyone have a good recommendation for shocks when building a scale rig with the E10? Thanks!

https://youtu.be/KKRvNQcPqx8
Just got those but they out of stock. These are as fine they are a bit wider here is the thread:http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/axial-scx-10/552454-scx10-ebay-shocks-crazy-articulation.html
Both under $30 for a complete set.

 

[StomperCrawler]

Get a damaged box version from amazon and save even more.

Couldn't find one. Link?

 

[MordyNYC]

Couldn't find one. Link?

They had a few but they're out, you can keep checking http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias=warehouse-deals&field-keywords=REDCAT
But it was after the holidays some spoiled brat cried and didnt get his Ipad to return it.
It was for like $118 instead of $135.