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Skaldiddog's "Progress"
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I just ordered a pair. Thanks for your initial review, Joel. "thumbsup" I am excited to run these in my Berg.
SkaldidDog
2013 2.2P Nat. Champion
Holmes Hobbies Puller 500 Motors = Traction Control:Update
My pleasure. You'll love the way they creep, sound and downhill"thumbsup".
In my previous post I mentioned these motors impacted run time from a single battery pack. Does the decreased run time would matter in the real (comp) world? Short answer is no. I timed three brand new TP480 3S packs from fresh full charge. Driving was mixed with plenty of torquing, binding and wheel spin. Times were as follows: 15, 18+ and 20 min. My guess is that this is more than enough for one 6 min course so any negative impact these motors have on run time is irrelevant. Man I love the smooth, quiet and meticulous way these babies progress. So cool.
I did run a 0.125" bead of duct tape and a little goop around the aluminum endbell holes to keep crap out of the gearboxes. Ghetto but it works. Kinda like the rest of the rig. I need to design some kind of endbell skid plate. It's on the list.
Thanks again John.
J
My pleasure. You'll love the way they creep, sound and downhill"thumbsup".
In my previous post I mentioned these motors impacted run time from a single battery pack. Does the decreased run time would matter in the real (comp) world? Short answer is no. I timed three brand new TP480 3S packs from fresh full charge. Driving was mixed with plenty of torquing, binding and wheel spin. Times were as follows: 15, 18+ and 20 min. My guess is that this is more than enough for one 6 min course so any negative impact these motors have on run time is irrelevant. Man I love the smooth, quiet and meticulous way these babies progress. So cool.
I did run a 0.125" bead of duct tape and a little goop around the aluminum endbell holes to keep crap out of the gearboxes. Ghetto but it works. Kinda like the rest of the rig. I need to design some kind of endbell skid plate. It's on the list.
Thanks again John.
J
SkaldidDog
2013 2.2P Nat. Champion
RCBros antigravity gears and Egressor Shocks
Belated thanks for the care package Will"thumbsup". You rock. I'm going to build these shocks and shake them out. I'm a total nube here for obvious reasons. Where is thread containing info regarding what caps, machined diaphrams etc that I'll need to finish them out. Any tips and pointers on starting pionts (oil, spring, diaphrams) would be greatly appreciated. The bodies seem a little long but are amenable to some lathe love to shorten them up.
Thanks again Will. Man I love your gears.
Belated thanks for the care package Will"thumbsup". You rock. I'm going to build these shocks and shake them out. I'm a total nube here for obvious reasons. Where is thread containing info regarding what caps, machined diaphrams etc that I'll need to finish them out. Any tips and pointers on starting pionts (oil, spring, diaphrams) would be greatly appreciated. The bodies seem a little long but are amenable to some lathe love to shorten them up.
Thanks again Will. Man I love your gears.
Re: RCBros antigravity gears and Egressor Shocks
Hey Joel, the bodies are the same as the scx10 shock bodies on height, but can easily be cut to fit anyone's preferences which is why I love these things. I have all parts on order but some items are back ordered through my distributor.
The pistons are AXI30132
Shock shafts AXI30146
And caps AXI80029
I suggest using associated green slime or equivalent on all the shock shafts and o-rings, oil preferences varies with driver. I have found 50wt works for me. I will post a picture for you tonight showing the o-ring installation
Hey Joel, the bodies are the same as the scx10 shock bodies on height, but can easily be cut to fit anyone's preferences which is why I love these things. I have all parts on order but some items are back ordered through my distributor.
The pistons are AXI30132
Shock shafts AXI30146
And caps AXI80029
I suggest using associated green slime or equivalent on all the shock shafts and o-rings, oil preferences varies with driver. I have found 50wt works for me. I will post a picture for you tonight showing the o-ring installation
SkaldidDog
2013 2.2P Nat. Champion
Re: RCBros antigravity gears and Egressor Shocks
Gracias compadre. Look forward to some pics. I recall SDS fighting the clip installation for a while on each shock that night in Wendover I believe.
J
Gracias compadre. Look forward to some pics. I recall SDS fighting the clip installation for a while on each shock that night in Wendover I believe.
J
ROWDY RACING
I wanna be Dave
SkaldidDog
2013 2.2P Nat. Champion
Re: RCBros antigravity gears and Egressor Shocks
Gracias. I actually think I have a pair somewhere. They came with a small blue pouch of different tips/points I believe. I'll do some digging.
J
Gracias. I actually think I have a pair somewhere. They came with a small blue pouch of different tips/points I believe. I'll do some digging.
J
Re: RCBros antigravity gears and Egressor Shocks
Yep, Little baggie of different tips. you'll want to use the needle point tips as most of the ground tips are too big to fit in the snap ring. Plus you can adjust the needle tips to touch when fully closed which helps get the ring fully compressed.
Yep, Little baggie of different tips. you'll want to use the needle point tips as most of the ground tips are too big to fit in the snap ring. Plus you can adjust the needle tips to touch when fully closed which helps get the ring fully compressed.
TEDROCKZ
I wanna be Dave
Ghetto fab:ror: Works Fabulousmusly:lmao:
SkaldidDog
2013 2.2P Nat. Champion
Holmes Hobbies Puller 500 Motors = Traction Control:Update
That's way cool. I love ghetto fabs.
First I have to thank JRH for his patience and help yesterday. We probably exchanged 100 not-so-short texts whilst tuning motor variations/timing etc. I'll break the days findings down in short form starting with my previous motors (V1) and including some findings from earlier in the week. All comments are with new TP480 3S packs and deans micro. Rig wired with 20g running dual HH minis.
V1: 540/3s/30t/H (can/slot count/turn/heavy (H) or med wire (M): Lots of speed, torque, good startup resolution, not the lightest package
V2:500SL/5s/16t/M: Insane low speed resolution. Nuts. OK speed yet not much stall torque. Torque improved once turning. Very quiet. Cool sound. Very light vs V1.
V3: 500 thick can/5s/16t/M: Big improvement on stall torque. Maybe a little more speed. Felt more assure of itself. Still bonkers low end resolution. One oz heavier for the pair vs V2. Still lighter than V1 and lower profile too.
V4: 500 thick can/3s/30t/H. Stupid rediculous torque and speed. Nuts. Back to not as good of low end resolution. Heavier than V2 and V3 but lighther than V1. This is basically a balls-out 540 that's 1-2 oz ligher for the pair with lower profile.
My lesson learned is that I love the low end resolution of the 5s vs the 3s. I'll sacrifice some [unused] oomph to have it. I'd like a little more speed and will give up some weight reduction to have it. So on to V5
V5:500 thick can/5s/13t/H. This will give me some speed back, keep my newfound resolution, be a bit lighter than V1 with lower profile and will have that stealthy quiet purr. I also like the thick cans as I am less likely to dent them and they are more ammenable to me putting a teflon wrap on them. I'll also try this setup with a set of dual minis from HH. The major difference is the wire guage. We're trying to understand its impact on performance. On this note I notice the coolest (no pun intended) thing I've seen in a long time. I had the V4 setup at 1/4 throttle in the rig on a stand doing no load brush break in. After 10 min the motors were ~100F and the ESCs at 140F. Both no big deal. So I took my air compressor hose and shot a long blast of cool air at the escs and they sped up dramatically. This tells me just how bad heat is for electronics. I'm really interested to see how the heavier wired ESCs perform now.
More later.
Thanks again JRH.
That's way cool. I love ghetto fabs.
First I have to thank JRH for his patience and help yesterday. We probably exchanged 100 not-so-short texts whilst tuning motor variations/timing etc. I'll break the days findings down in short form starting with my previous motors (V1) and including some findings from earlier in the week. All comments are with new TP480 3S packs and deans micro. Rig wired with 20g running dual HH minis.
V1: 540/3s/30t/H (can/slot count/turn/heavy (H) or med wire (M): Lots of speed, torque, good startup resolution, not the lightest package
V2:500SL/5s/16t/M: Insane low speed resolution. Nuts. OK speed yet not much stall torque. Torque improved once turning. Very quiet. Cool sound. Very light vs V1.
V3: 500 thick can/5s/16t/M: Big improvement on stall torque. Maybe a little more speed. Felt more assure of itself. Still bonkers low end resolution. One oz heavier for the pair vs V2. Still lighter than V1 and lower profile too.
V4: 500 thick can/3s/30t/H. Stupid rediculous torque and speed. Nuts. Back to not as good of low end resolution. Heavier than V2 and V3 but lighther than V1. This is basically a balls-out 540 that's 1-2 oz ligher for the pair with lower profile.
My lesson learned is that I love the low end resolution of the 5s vs the 3s. I'll sacrifice some [unused] oomph to have it. I'd like a little more speed and will give up some weight reduction to have it. So on to V5
V5:500 thick can/5s/13t/H. This will give me some speed back, keep my newfound resolution, be a bit lighter than V1 with lower profile and will have that stealthy quiet purr. I also like the thick cans as I am less likely to dent them and they are more ammenable to me putting a teflon wrap on them. I'll also try this setup with a set of dual minis from HH. The major difference is the wire guage. We're trying to understand its impact on performance. On this note I notice the coolest (no pun intended) thing I've seen in a long time. I had the V4 setup at 1/4 throttle in the rig on a stand doing no load brush break in. After 10 min the motors were ~100F and the ESCs at 140F. Both no big deal. So I took my air compressor hose and shot a long blast of cool air at the escs and they sped up dramatically. This tells me just how bad heat is for electronics. I'm really interested to see how the heavier wired ESCs perform now.
More later.
Thanks again JRH.
TURBOFEST
I wanna be Dave
Good write up Joel and I completely agree. The V5 is where I'm at now with my Sporty motor and loving it!
SkaldidDog
2013 2.2P Nat. Champion
My pleasure. I'll post more accurate weights later.
I hope to have it this week. Looking forward to it. What's in your pro rig?
J
TURBOFEST
I wanna be Dave
Still running some stage 3 lightened 540, 13t, 5seg, fatties. I just can't get away from them! Every time I drive the rig I'm reminded how much I love those motors.
Smooth as silk start-up and more than enough wheelspeed for sweet jumps :ror:
I may change them out one of these days for some new hotness, but then again...maybe not. ;-)
winnerone23
I wanna be Dave
Ridiculous motors!
Great write up Joel.. I'm stoked and waiting for the mail lady on my V5 now.
SkaldidDog
2013 2.2P Nat. Champion
Those must be a freaking blast. I'm giving the 500s a shot. I'm such a mellow driver and the new mags in the thick 500 are so nuts, I can probably thrive with a smaller 500. And they look cool too.
Nice. Let me know what you think.
J
winnerone23
I wanna be Dave
Will do Joel.. I should of also mentioned I went crawling yesterday...
br mini's, HH 30t pro flows, 45° and windy out.. the esc's/motor's were working Amazing! The cooler weather really woke them up.. I was having fun doin some jumps and launches..
I was doin some break dancing with my 2.2s.. HH 13t pro crawl type, br mini, and I took it off some Saaweeet jumps too!
br mini's, HH 30t pro flows, 45° and windy out.. the esc's/motor's were working Amazing! The cooler weather really woke them up.. I was having fun doin some jumps and launches..
I was doin some break dancing with my 2.2s.. HH 13t pro crawl type, br mini, and I took it off some Saaweeet jumps too!
SkaldidDog
2013 2.2P Nat. Champion
Will do Joel.. I should of also mentioned I went crawling yesterday...
br mini's, HH 30t pro flows, 45° and windy out.. the esc's/motor's were working Amazing! The cooler weather really woke them up.. I was having fun doin some jumps and launches..
I was doin some break dancing with my 2.2s.. HH 13t pro crawl type, br mini, and I took it off some Saaweeet jumps too!
I'm really looking forward to cooler weather now too as a result of that revelation. I guess I'd look funning running a 1" cooling fan on my ESCs.:shock:
J
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