Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Rock Crawler motors- Lay down the Power!

[nostopin]

Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power!

lol, couldn't wait to see yours in action Bil. Thanks for your inputs cwhfsr and JohnRobHolmes and from what I've read so far and just being plain curious. Figured the best way to see how the HH product performs is to install one into my own rig, so I just ordered my own HH PP Standard 3500kv.

 

[Shinjari]

Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power!

So it seems if you can run a standard size motor, thats the way to go? Got a 1.9 scx10 based U4 I'm building and have a ROC3100 slated for it. Would the stubby 3300 or standard 540 3500kv be better? Matching with a MMP w/ BEC and 3s. Based on what I've read, the 540 would run cooler due to size?

 

[JohnRobHolmes]

Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power!

It never hurts to have a little extra motor. If you will be rock racing, the 3500kv 540 will run cooler and won't leave you wanting more.

 

[Shinjari]

Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power!

It never hurts to have a little extra motor. If you will be rock racing, the 3500kv 540 will run cooler and won't leave you wanting more.

Thats what I figured, thanks for the reply! "thumbsup"

 

[slimfire]

Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power!

Hi John,

today I tested my new Puller PRO 540 2700kv with Trail Master BLE PRO ESC
I ran it on my wraith (approx 4kg)
geared 15/88
3S (2200mAh, 40C)
ESC settings: Smart sense on, PWM the second lowest value (do not remember the value)

First of all it was a such a blast moving from my former set up (Torquemaster PRO 35t, geared 17/88 ) to the new Brushless setup, motor was performing very well both crawling and wheel speed

However I was also keeping temp under control, the motor was always within safe range (finger test - less than 160) but the ESC was getting pretty hot after some rock trailing and crawling... hotter than I ever experienced with same ESC with the Revolvers Stubby 2000kv (but on a lighter SCX10), and hotter than the BRXL I ran with the Torque master...

what do you suggest I do?

reduce gering?
reduce PWM? (this night I just it set it to 8 - lowest possible value), and will test it again ...but I wonder whether is there anything else missing...
I do not think my wraith is far too heavy for this motor... or?


PS: just found out this 3D, If I had it found earlier I may have bought a higher kv motor as for the many advices you provided so far .... anyway I think 2700 should work fine for me...

 

[JohnRobHolmes]

Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power!

I've been liking the 2700kv, it's a good all around choice too.

Reducing the pwm to 8k will reduce your temp. The esc will still run warmer than before because of the higher kv and top speed.

 

[slimfire]

Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power!

I've been liking the 2700kv, it's a good all around choice too.

Reducing the pwm to 8k will reduce your temp. The esc will still run warmer than before because of the higher kv and top speed.

Thanks John,
what is a safe temp edge the ESC should never exceed ??

 

[slimfire]

Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power!

Thanks John,
what is a safe temp edge the ESC should never exceed ??

..just found it in former posts... is 160 max, all right?

does punch control effect ESC temp in anyway?
want to keep my ESC temp as low as possible...

 

[Shinjari]

Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power!

Anyone have a video of a Puller Pro 540 2700 in action? And when will 540 3500kv motors be back in stock?

 

[Shinjari]

Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power!

Bueller about 3500kv standards?

Also if I chose a 540 standard 4500kv on 3s (11.1 x 4500 = 49950 rpm) and ran it to a 2.18:1 reduction t-case (4500/2.18=~2065kv motor)....would that effectively make it like running a 2000kv motor without the reduction t-case?? Maybe my math/logic is wrong? But seems to make sense.

 

[rmain2001]

Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power!

I was wondering what would happen if I ran a 4s in my yeti with the 3500kv puller pro xl I have a fan on it so I don't think cooling will be an issue is there anything else to be concerned with when running 4s


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[Shinjari]

Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power!

Some comparison vids I made comparing my 55t to a stubby 3300kv and a 35t to a standard 4500kv (this rig as a 2.18:1 reduction t-case so its not as fast as you'd think, more like a 2000kv instead haha).

Very happy with the new motors and servos.

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[Jeep757]

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Which of these motors would compare to the castle 2650kv brushless motor?

This would go in a slash 4x4 with a MMX esc running 2s and 3s.

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[JohnRobHolmes]

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Which of these motors would compare to the castle 2650kv brushless motor?

This would go in a slash 4x4 with a MMX esc running 2s and 3s.

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The XL would be closest at 10 ounces weight, the 2560 is an 8th scale motor that weighs 13 ounces.

 

[Jeep757]

Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power!

The XL would be closest at 10 ounces weight, the 2560 is an 8th scale motor that weighs 13 ounces.

How about in regards to speed/torque? Was thinking to gear 50spur/20pinion

I like th e fact that this PP is sensor ed and waterproof

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[slapjack]

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Got acouple questions about my wraith I just got together. It has curries mattzilla chasis ss trans basically everything is steel or alum and should weight around 9-10 lbs. I am planning to run on 3s and am wondering if the 3500kv standard 540 motor would be a good choice. I will be doing some crawling (nothing too technical) just for fun and some trails. So I want decent startup control and decent speed. I was planning to run a mmp but am wondering if I will need the mmx with this heavy of a truck. This is my first crawler/scaler type truck. I don't want to worry about temp of the esc being an issue

 

[mikebecher]

Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power!

Got acouple questions about my wraith I just got together. It has curries mattzilla chasis ss trans basically everything is steel or alum and should weight around 9-10 lbs. I am planning to run on 3s and am wondering if the 3500kv standard 540 motor would be a good choice. I will be doing some crawling (nothing too technical) just for fun and some trails. So I want decent startup control and decent speed. I was planning to run a mmp but am wondering if I will need the mmx with this heavy of a truck. This is my first crawler/scaler type truck. I don't want to worry about temp of the esc being an issue

This is almost exactly the same as my rig and I run the HH PP 3500kv standard and a HH BLE Pro. I used to run a MMP but got sick of the fan. If I were doing it now I'd get a Puller Pro 2700kv (to run 4s if I like) and probably a MMX ESC, just for some of the added features it offers. That being said, I'm very happy with the setup I have and it has plenty of speed and power with nice smooth startup.

 

[slapjack]

Re: Puller Pro Brushless 4 pole Sensored motors- Lays down the Power!

This is almost exactly the same as my rig and I run the HH PP 3500kv standard and a HH BLE Pro. I used to run a MMP but got sick of the fan. If I were doing it now I'd get a Puller Pro 2700kv (to run 4s if I like) and probably a MMX ESC, just for some of the added features it offers. That being said, I'm very happy with the setup I have and it has plenty of speed and power with nice smooth startup.

Thanks for the reply. What is the problem with the fan? I was going to get the ble but someone said to get the mmp cause it had a fan and if I was Gna do any hill climbing that I would want the fan. But I'm not Gna be wide open throttle bombing hills all the time so maybe I can get away with the ble?
And what added features Des the mmx have over the ble? Is the mmx a more powerful esc than the ble or does it just have more features?
Oh and will a 4s pack like a 2200 fit under the hood in the mattzilla chasis do you know? Maybe the 2700 on 4s something I'd consider

 

[mikebecher]

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Thanks for the reply. What is the problem with the fan? I was going to get the ble but someone said to get the mmp cause it had a fan and if I was Gna do any hill climbing that I would want the fan. But I'm not Gna be wide open throttle bombing hills all the time so maybe I can get away with the ble?
And what added features Des the mmx have over the ble? Is the mmx a more powerful esc than the ble or does it just have more features?
Oh and will a 4s pack like a 2200 fit under the hood in the mattzilla chasis do you know? Maybe the 2700 on 4s something I'd consider

I just got tired of the noise from the fan running all the time plus I wanted an excuse to get a BLE "thumbsup" Factory waterproof is nice to have as well. I've done a bit of hill climbing with it and not had any issue.

My experience with the MMX is just what I've read. I don't think it would provide any additional power but I do like the auxiliary wire feature and data logging, I can never have too much data.

You should be able to find a 4s 2200 pack to fit the chassis. When I do 4s (for brief runs) I just use a 1300 mAH and there's a lot of extra room.

 

[slapjack]

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I just got tired of the noise from the fan running all the time plus I wanted an excuse to get a BLE "thumbsup" Factory waterproof is nice to have as well. I've done a bit of hill climbing with it and not had any issue.

My experience with the MMX is just what I've read. I don't think it would provide any additional power but I do like the auxiliary wire feature and data logging, I can never have too much data.

You should be able to find a 4s 2200 pack to fit the chassis. When I do 4s (for brief runs) I just use a 1300 mAH and there's a lot of extra room.

I think I am gna go for the ble... I really don't want the castle. Just my preference. Let me ask you this... Do you know about how fast that 3500kv is on 3s? Rough speed? Or comparison to another vehicle? Like have u ever run a summit? I want to at least be as fast as a summit in high gear.

As far as the 4s option with the 2700kv... Would you run into heat issues with that setup? Just wondering between the 2700 on 4s or the 3500 on 3s which would be the better all around setup?