Letter to Obama

[WVhillbilly]

Don't worry, the UN will be front and center after the US collapses. They worry that enough US troops won't "restore order" here.

 

[dezfan]

I'm the "boy" here? :|

Yes you are, I know it's difficult to comprehend, but when your a LOT older, you'll get it.

I continue to pepper you w/ the "Hope and Change" question because of your contention that things were worse under Bush than under Obama. While Bush, was far from what I consider to be an ideal President, he wasn't fundamentally trying to destroy our Nation.

If you were (or still are) a Ron Paul supporter, that's great! Unfortunately as a 3rd party candidate, all he will ever receive is the fringe vote. That's unfortunate, as l stated earlier, he has some good ideas.

Hang in there college boy!

 

[binaryterror]

Man Dez won't even comment on the Bush holding hands with a bin Laden supporter...

 

[dezfan]

Man Dez won't even comment on the Bush holding hands with a bin Laden supporter...

Like I said, your reaching brotha.

In that part of the world, holding hands is a sign of respect and friendship. As much as you lefties fall all over yourselves about being more PC, I would think that President Bush might have actually received some points for it from the left, as he did in the Middle East.

 

[binaryterror]

In that part of the world, holding hands is a sign of respect and friendship. As much as you lefties fall all over yourselves about being more PC, I would think that President Bush might have actually received some points for it from the left, as he did in the Middle East.

Wait lets analyze this. Bush holds hands to respect (might make sense) but he holds hands with a man who considers bin Laden to be unusually targeted?

Bush is either for or against bin Laden. My thought was against. But hey, why not hold hands with a man who respects bin Laden and wants the US to be nice to him? (are you missing the hypocrisy here?)

 

[dezfan]

Wait lets analyze this. Bush holds hands to respect (might make sense) but he holds hands with a man who considers bin Laden to be unusually targeted?

Bush is either for or against bin Laden. My thought was against. But hey, why not hold hands with a man who respects bin Laden and wants the US to be nice to him? (are you missing the hypocrisy here?)

Not all of my friends and I agree on all subjects, I'm sure Bin Laden isn't the only subject that they disagree on, yet they can still be friends.

 

[ThinkTank]

Wait lets analyze this. Bush holds hands to respect (might make sense) but he holds hands with a man who considers bin Laden to be unusually targeted?

Bush is either for or against bin Laden. My thought was against. But hey, why not hold hands with a man who respects bin Laden and wants the US to be nice to him? (are you missing the hypocrisy here?)

There are times when I seriously wonder if you're secretly a Catholic because you act like a Holy Roller or a mentally impaired person.

Speaking of hypocrisy: Why is it that you can understand every single evil choice and motive behind Bush's decisions, but ignore it when Obama does it?

 

[MnRockCrawler]

This is why my mom always told me as a kid to dont even bother arguing politics or religion with people. No two people are gonna see everything the same. Pushing your thoughts on people is like pissing in the wind.

 

[binaryterror]

There are times when I seriously wonder if you're secretly a Catholic because you act like a Holy Roller or a mentally impaired person.

It's simple and you are missing the point. Dezfan posts how Obama bowing leader to a friendly country to the US. Yet finds no problem with a Republican holding hands with a supporter of a known enemy. That is simply odd to me.

All people have done on this site is talk about incorrect facts about how Obama is "muslim" and his middle name. Yet seem to skip over facts about Bush's friendship with a supporter of the Taliban. Let alone his support of the entire bin Laden family who the government protected.

Are we fighting terrorism or befriending it?

Speaking of hypocrisy: Why is it that you can understand every single evil choice and motive behind Bush's decisions, but ignore it when Obama does it?

Exactly what evil has Obama done? I guess what you miss is the word evil. Spending money on programs is bad, not evil.

I never said I even voted for him. You assume that incorrectly.

 

[dezfan]

Bush holding hands as a friend is different than Obama bowing as the leader of the US. You your self have said that their families are friendly. Again, I think you can be friends with someone and still disagree with them on their other affiliations.

I don't care for the fact that they are friends, but I don't see it as subversive.

 

[ThinkTank]

It's simple and you are missing the point. Dezfan posts how Obama bowing leader to a friendly country to the US. Yet finds no problem with a Republican holding hands with a supporter of a known enemy. That is simply odd to me.

All people have done on this site is talk about incorrect facts about how Obama is "muslim" and his middle name. Yet seem to skip over facts about Bush's friendship with a supporter of the Taliban. Let alone his support of the entire bin Laden family who the government protected.Are we fighting terrorism or befriending it?

You are missing the point.My point is how two wrongs are supposed to make a right in your eyes. Yes, Bush bowed before and kissed up to hostile leaders to further his agenda. You recognize and acknowledge that fact.

wish I was. This is Bush and Prince Abdullah:

Story about Abdullah's support for bin Laden:
According to sources, the situation regarding bin Laden crystallized after his camp in Afghanistan was bombed by US cruise missiles in August 1998 in retaliation for the embassy attacks in Africa. Bin Laden escaped injury after apparently changing his dinner plans at the last minute, but the incident sent shockwaves through international Islamic movements in which bin Laden has a strong following.

As a result, a very strong Muslim lobby emerged to protect his interests. This includes Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah, as well as senior Pakistani generals. Prince Abdullah has good relations with bin Laden as both are disciples of slain Doctor Abdullah Azzam, a Palestinian scholar and former leader of the Muslim Brotherhood Organization.

Bush held hands with a man who contributed to funding the Taliban. It makes your argument no better.

But when Obama does it, you justify it and attempt to rationalize it.

Right now we need these other countries, since we have no money. Without them we'd be screwed because of of society and the materialistic actions of many here. You could learn a lot speaking to a citizen of many other countries. Blinded by the US nationalism isn't a cure, its a disease.

In line with your reasoning, then Obama is no better.

Wait lets analyze this. Bush holds hands to respect (might make sense) but he holds hands with a man who considers bin Laden to be unusually targeted?

Bush is either for or against bin Laden. My thought was against. But hey, why not hold hands with a man who respects bin Laden and wants the US to be nice to him? (are you missing the hypocrisy here?)

Wait lets analyze this. Obama is befriending individuals hostile to this country. Iran has admitted to arming terrorists in Iraq resulting in deaths of Americans and Iraqis.

Obama is either for Iran or against Iran. My thought was against. But hey, why not hold hands with a man who in intent on harming this country and wants the US to be nice to him? (are you missing the hypocrisy here?)

Exactly what evil has Obama done? I guess what you miss is the word evil. Spending money on programs is bad, not evil.

I never said I even voted for him. You assume that incorrectly.

Bush started the Patriot Act, Obama extended it.
Bush violated the Constitution and our rights, Obama is doing the same.
Bush took our money and gave it to Wall Street, Obama continued it.
Bush was financially irresponsible, Obama wants to spend more money despite our current debt from the last one.
Bush started 2 wars, Obama is sending more troops.

Need I go on??

.... And somehow its perfectly fine because "we need it." Or so says a politician. :roll:
Try and spin those, I'm sure your response would be exactly the same excuse Bush used. "thumbsup"

I don't care who you voted for, Why do you assume that I am a Republican?

I'm surprised on how the rational one here can defend the current President actions by claiming the other side is the eviler one, when the reality is they are the same. Hence my Holy Roller Catholic comment."thumbsup"

 

[4xFord]

Ya I've got to agree both parties really blow hard at this point. :-(

 

[Tupers]

OK so I might get flamed for this or I might not but I've gotta ask.


If so many people feel that what Obama is doing is so bad why aren't you all writing letters to him like this old fella is expressing your displeasure?
I see a lot of people are doing the classic south park "rabble rabble rabble" but very few stepping up and making their opinions known to the people they're pissed with.

 

[WVhillbilly]

OK so I might get flamed for this or I might not but I've gotta ask.


If so many people feel that what Obama is doing is so bad why aren't you all writing letters to him like this old fella is expressing your displeasure?
I see a lot of people are doing the classic south park "rabble rabble rabble" but very few stepping up and making their opinions known to the people they're pissed with.

I have written my state representatives. You can write all the letters to Obama you like, it you think that anyone in the White House gives a damn what the general public think you are sadly mistaken.
There is only one way to fix this mess now, the Founding Fathers had it right.

 

[93 FORD BRONCO]

SEMPER FORTIS

(always courageous)

proud to be an american

 

[dezfan]

OK so I might get flamed for this or I might not but I've gotta ask.


If so many people feel that what Obama is doing is so bad why aren't you all writing letters to him like this old fella is expressing your displeasure?
I see a lot of people are doing the classic south park "rabble rabble rabble" but very few stepping up and making their opinions known to the people they're pissed with.

I can't speak for everyone, but my Senators and Congressmen, are all very well acquainted w/ me. I use UPSP, e-mail, and call on a VERY regular basis.

One of the problems w/ many of the leftist idea-logs in the Democratic party is that they just don't give a damn! They are dead set on trying to pass their socialist agenda regardless of what their constituents want.

My own Senator Claire McCaskill(D) responses to my inquiries are a joke! A vast majority of her responses are so vague that it's difficult to determine what her response is pertaining to.

Look at the Socialized Medicine debacle, according to a Rasmussen poll out today, 62% of Americans are against single payer health care plan, yet it's the one key item the Democratic Progressive Left is screaming for!

If you look at the data from Zogby over the last year , a majority of Americans think that our nation is on the wrong path, yet the Democrats continue their socialist march!

Here's a list of 21 Senators choosing to vote against the wishes of their constituents. If one of these members serves you, I strongly suggest that you let them know your opinions on the subject.

Alaska Mark Begich (D)
Arkansas Blanche Lincoln (D)
Arkansas Mark Pryor (D)
Colorado Mark Udall (D)
Colorado Ken Salazar (D)
Florida Bill Nelson (D)
Indiana Evan Bayh (D)
Louisiana Mary Landrieu (D)
Missouri Claire McCaskill (D)
Montana Max Baucus (D)
Montana Jon Tester (D)
Nebraska Ben Nelson (D)
Nevada Harry Reid (D)
North Carolina Kay Hagan (D)
North Dakota Kent Conrad (D)
North Dakota Byron Dorgan (D)
South Dakota Tim Johnson (D)
Virginia Jim Webb (D)
Virginia Mark Warner (D)
West Virginia Robert Byrd (D)
West Virginia Jay Rockefeller (D)


Both parties are in for a wake up call next year, but the Democrats are in for drumming!:evil:

 

[JeremyH]

If so many people feel that what Obama is doing is so bad why aren't you all writing letters to him like this old fella is expressing your displeasure?

Your best bet is to write to your state representatives. Within the past month I have written to both Senators from Texas to express my views on the proposed health insurance reform and to make sure that they are in line with my beliefs. They both are...."thumbsup"

 

[JeremyH]

Here's a list of 21 Senators choosing to vote against the wishes of their constituents. If one of these members serves you, I strongly suggest that you let them know your opinions on the subject.

One of the Texas Senators is currently running for Governor of Texas....she knows that she'd better vote in line with the majority of Texans....:mrgreen:

 

[rock hard]

support communism,vote democrate!!!

support the 1st&2nd amendments,vote republican!!!!

support reparations,vote democrate!!!

support individual freedom,vote republican!!!!

fact is that when our country was founded,it was a insult to call someone a PARTY man. meaning someone who voted for the party instead of the ideas of the person running.

however we have a 2 party system.I dont like it but its what we got.
and the democrates in washington are traitors to the constitution.

that leaves me no choice,I can not support anyone who could be a member of such a party,no matter thier personal ideas.even in local gov.
to be a member of such a party speaks of thier lack of respect for our founding ideas.

elected officials only have one duty,they swear an oath to defend the constitution of the united states and/or of thier state.

I do not support all of the republicans ideas as a party.
one being the death penalty.I believe it is clearly unconstitutional.
however the democrates seem to have little to no respect for the document they were sworn to protect.

so for me the choice is clear.

the man is a joke,and so is the rest of the democrates on capital hill today,theywill be judged by history for generations.

 

[Dragon51]

Good post just checked snopes, this is real. However it was not posted by him.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/haroldestes.asp