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Jato Tries to Salvage a Methed-Out Shitbox H10 Optic

JatoTheRipper

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From the day after I ordered the long-awaited and much-anticipated Optic kit, I somehow just had a feeling that I'd get Kawasaki green. I hate Kawasaki. And I hate everything and anything with a Monster Energy theme. And "shocker" I did get the green. For some reason, this has put a huge damper on my excitement for this build. I know it's only plastics and stickers and that can be changed, when Vanquish gets off their asses and offers them, but my excitement is not the same as it was. Hopefully that changes as I get farther into the build. You can say I'm being dramatic (wouldn't be the first time). You can say I knew it was a gamble (no shit). You can say whatever you want (and IDGAF), but I can be honest about it. I hated this random color idea from the beginning, and I hate it even more now. I hate the color and the livery is as elementary as it can get. If you search "Huf", which is the name on these decals, it says "Skateboarding, Streetwear & Sneakers". Huff is also the sound you make to express annoyance which, in this case, is fitting. I huffed when I got Huf. Go to the Huf website and they seem to be junior-high school clowns that still think the pot leaf is cool to put on clothing. Sounds like skateboarders to me. Grow the fuck up! I can't believe Vanquish would even consider working with them.

Enough bitching. Let's start building. The box, manual and marketing materials are colorful and beautiful. I give them credit here. The manual is made from high-quality paper. This presentation does make a difference IMO. The 40th RC10 kit didn't include a manual. And I've built some RC kits with flimsy ass manuals and it just gives you a cheap feeling to start.

Step A is the front axle.




Vanquish still includes the plastic bearing carriers. I never had one fail, but I think this is inexcusable at this price. They don't need to include aluminum third members, but the aluminum bearing carriers would be nice.




The first error in the manual occurs on the first page. They call for an M2.5x6mm screw on either end of the front axle to act as a stop for the steering. I had M2.5x8mm screws for this part. That is fine because the hole they thread into is a thru-hole. But the tip of the screw does protrude slightly. I should have taken a pic of this. You could move down to maybe a 6mm to completely hide the screw.




Screw stop installed. This does not retain the bearing in any way.




Look at this flashing inside the "hydraulic" ram steering mount. The ram did catch on this when inserting it, but once in there, I felt nothing including no resistance. This piece has concerned me from the very first time I saw it in photos. You have a metal rod sliding on plastic with zero lubrication and there is a great possibility that dirt, grit, mud and grime will get in there and sand away this piece and the ram. Dumb design. Form before function. At least they were smart enough to make this entire piece replaceable and none of the axle housing is affected. This will all be a moot point if they don't offer this replacement part by itself. Currently they only offer it in the H10 Hydro Axle Components kit (VPS08806) that is $16.99. That's just asinine to force us to buy all those parts, especially the steering knuckles since most people will move to weighted knuckles.




Vanquish went cheap on the design of the steering ram. There is no interface between the C-hub and the rod. They should have slotted and notched this or somehow keyed it so that it is easy to line up both C-hubs on either end of this ram. A simple tool could have also been included to aid in this. They decided to make these parts cheap and I understand why. And, at the end of the day, it isn't too difficult to lineup the C-hubs from end to end.




Ram assembled inside of the cylinder part.

 
Santa Cruz bicycles livery would've been sick and could have had some pretty cool colors plus they are more local with both vanquish and Santa Cruz bikes being in NorCal. Them Huf stickers are wack.

I'll be putting a titanium link set including a steering link to get rid if the ram steering thingy. Are you upgrading anything as you go or building "as is" for now?
 
Santa Cruz bicycles livery would've been sick and could have had some pretty cool colors plus they are more local with both vanquish and Santa Cruz bikes being in NorCal. Them Huf stickers are wack.

I'll be putting a titanium link set including a steering link to get rid if the ram steering thingy. Are you upgrading anything as you go or building "as is" for now?
Would have also been perfect for me since I drive a Santa Cruz!

I’m building it mostly stock. My only plan initially is to add a bit of weight up front for better climbing ability.
 
Thought I saw that you had found someone to trade those for the Eibach body panels? What tires and wheels are you going to run?
 
Thought I saw that you had found someone to trade those for the Eibach body panels? What tires and wheels are you going to run?
Never received a response. I would trade these for red, orange or just about any other color. I don't want used panels or the stock RTR ones though.

I ordered some wheels from China. Will show those when they arrived. Tried to order something similar before and what showed up was totally incorrect. For tires, I'm leaning towards Proline Trepadors. Not my favorite tread, but the size seems good. Tusks also look excellent on anything. Still not sure about the Proline Baja Pro X. Those seem too blocky and cartoonish.
 
I was going to say that you can check Freqeskins for a livery that would work with the green but I now see that nothing they offer would look good with the green either. Your only hope to salvage the green panels is if you could get a RCC skin made.
 
Adhesive vinyl from the crafts store will change those panels. Can make your own patterns. And is easy to change when you get bored. And can do it in winter without an indoor paint booth.

Admittedly you'd still see some green. Not my favorite either but just cause I don't didn't like the color. I don't mind Kawasaki heavy industries (old kawi green was a bit different). Not a fan of monster energy though and the mx/monster combo is when kawi green changed to this brighter version.

Remember, Santa Cruz bicycles is now french. Owned by Pon Holdings. Roskopp sold and jumped ship. Speaking of old skateboarders...
 
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I was going to say that you can check Freqeskins for a livery that would work with the green but I now see that nothing they offer would look good with the green either. Your only hope to salvage the green panels is if you could get a RCC skin made.
I have some ideas. Two of those would be to embrace Kawasaki. I can't find anybody that makes custom Optic wraps though which surprises me. You'd think that would be easy. I could also learn to use my Silhouette and design some vinyl myself. There are also the options to wrap the panels or use decals. I'm still playing with ideas in my head and looking for things on occasion. I think this is going to be a long and drawn out build so I have time.

I don't like the Alien offering that Freqeskinz has for the H10. It almost looks like a generic RCC livery or, for those that are familiar with it, a jark from DeviantArt theme. That dude was one of the guys that started DeviantArt and he was such a douche that they fired him and screwed him out of the company. I thought it was hilarious because he's an asshole. I don't know whatever came of that though. It has been decades since I hung around DeviantArt and made Winamp skins and Windows desktop themes. That scene pretty much died anyway.

I was going to offer to just send you the Sparco set so you'd stop griping but I guess thats a no go. :ROFLMAO:
You did offer that trade to me! :ROFLMAO: And it was very generous, and I do appreciate it! The Sparco and Yokohama liveries honestly aren't bad RTRs. In fact, I really like the Yokohama. The kit should have contained this gray cage for the sake of dyability. There are just enough of those RTR liveries out there already and I want to try to do something with these new green panels since I have them. Shipping kind of ruins this trading and buying of panels bullshit anyway.

That’s your kind of luck bro! 🤣🤣🤣
Ain't that the truth?! On top of this green shit, my boss also told me this week that he's leaving the company. Best boss I ever had. Now he's going to be gone and things are going to change. We will see if those are good or bad changes. I don't think I'll ever have a boss as cool and caring as this one though!

Adhesive vinyl from the crafts store will change those panels. Can make your own patterns. And is easy to change when you get bored. And can do it in winter without an indoor paint booth.

Admittedly you'd still see some green. Not my favorite either but just cause I don't didn't like the color. I don't mind Kawasaki heavy industries (old kawi green was a bit different). Not a fan of monster energy though and the mx/monster combo is when kawi green changed to this brighter version.

Remember, Santa Cruz bicycles is now french. Owned by Pon Holdings. Roskopp sold and jumped ship. Speaking of old skateboarders...
I may have some vinyl here that I have been considering using. I used a small piece on an older build. I'm not sure if I moved it to the new house, but I will have to check for sure. Thanks for the reminder!

French?! Enough said!

Jato,
Did your VFD trans come with the scale shifter cover? Mine didn't wtf.
I'll have to check. At least one of the product photos on the page for the H10 kit show the flat trans cover. I didn't see the scale lid. You'd think this would have included the scale cover. I'm starting to see a trend with this kit. Oversight after oversight or "Huh?!" decisions after "Huh?" decisions...

Maybe it was a cost savings measure. The "VFD MOLDED TRANMISSION HOUSING SET" (VPS10144) doesn't include the scale cover with shifters, but the "VFD Molded Motor Plate and Components" (VPS10131) does. They also still offer the "VFD Twin Rubber Gasket - Black" (VPS10202) as an option, but I don't remember Vanquish including any gaskets for this top piece in any kits at this point. I could be wrong about the lack of the inclusion of gaskets though.

I did do a quick check of my third members last night (no, not that thing that does helicopters) and it seems I do have a different front and rear piece so I didn't experience the issue of receiving two of the same like some other people did.

I feel like this is the only livery option that's going to work for you at this point...

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Now that is hilarious! Even better, I went to Bing it to see when this was invented as I think our school had used a different symbol for poison, and my typo said "MF Yuk"! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: So from here forward, this build may be known as the MF Yuk!
 
Ha! Love it. And btw Mr. Yuk sticker sheets are available for free by mailing a self-addressed stamped envelope to Penn State Pesticide Education Program @ 222 Special Services Building- University Park, PA 16802. Unfortunately the ones that I had back in the day were on paper stock so they didn't hold up to outdoor use. Would be cool if they're using vinyl now but dunno.
 
I have some ideas. Two of those would be to embrace Kawasaki. I can't find anybody that makes custom Optic wraps though which surprises me. You'd think that would be easy. I could also learn to use my Silhouette and design some vinyl myself. There are also the options to wrap the panels or use decals. I'm still playing with ideas in my head and looking for things on occasion. I think this is going to be a long and drawn out build so I have time.


You did offer that trade to me! :ROFLMAO: And it was very generous, and I do appreciate it! The Sparco and Yokohama liveries honestly aren't bad RTRs. In fact, I really like the Yokohama. The kit should have contained this gray cage for the sake of dyability. There are just enough of those RTR liveries out there already and I want to try to do something with these new green panels since I have them. Shipping kind of ruins this trading and buying of panels bullshit anyway.


I'll have to check. At least one of the product photos on the page for the H10 kit show the flat trans cover. I didn't see the scale lid. You'd think this would have included the scale cover. I'm starting to see a trend with this kit. Oversight after oversight or "Huh?!" decisions after "Huh?" decisions...

Maybe it was a cost savings measure. The "VFD MOLDED TRANMISSION HOUSING SET" (VPS10144) doesn't include the scale cover with shifters, but the "VFD Molded Motor Plate and Components" (VPS10131) does. They also still offer the "VFD Twin Rubber Gasket - Black" (VPS10202) as an option, but I don't remember Vanquish including any gaskets for this top piece in any kits at this point. I could be wrong about the lack of the inclusion of gaskets though.

I was just going to ship them to you...No trade required.

The rubber gaskets for the twin are for the shift arms. It is just a rectangular piece of rubber with a slit in it. The arms poke through them.
 
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