Connecting two ESCs to one receiver. Pull a red wire?

[KingRaptor]

Each ESC both work great for their purpose on their own. However, when I connect BOTH ESCS to the receiver, and pulled the RED wire from the winch ESC and turned everything ON it burned the black ground wire on the winch ESC. I managed to unplug everything before further damage. I thought I was supposed to pull a RED wire from one of the ESCs? How come it nearly caught on fire? Everything was connected correctly otherwise.

1x ESC is for the main motor. Hobbywing Quicrun 1080 powering a HH Torquemaster.

1x ESC is for the winch. Tiny 10a generic ESC powering the winch. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DU49XXS?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details

 

[Panther6834]

First thing I'd ask, why run a separate ESC just to run/control a winch? Why not power the winch either from the Rx, from an external BEC, or directly through a battery? Using a separate ESC, just for a winch, seems...uh...(pardon my 'French' here) idiotic.


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[KingRaptor]

First thing I'd ask, why run a separate ESC just to run/control a winch? Why not power the winch either from the Rx, from an external BEC, or directly through a battery? Using a separate ESC, just for a winch, seems...uh...(pardon my 'French' here) idiotic.


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I don't know how that would be possible. If I'm not mistaken I can't just plug in a small brushed motor (my winch) to the RX and expect to control it from my 3rd channel. I need a controller of some sort to send power to the winch according to my 3rd channel input, hence having a tiny 10a brushed ESC. The 2nd small ESC IS the winch controller.

A lot of people use a 2nd small brushed ESC as a winch controller.
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[mikemcE]

I run a 1080 for my motor and a 1060 as my winch controller. Red power wire from the 1060 is removed. I have separate power for both.

Reason is cost. The 1060 is cheap and allows me to dial in winch speed, easy to obtain and doesn’t need to sit in my rx box


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[KingRaptor]

I run a 1080 for my motor and a 1060 as my winch controller. Red power wire from the 1060 is removed. I have separate power for both.


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That's what I did, that's the problem. I pulled the red wire from my winch ESC and the ground/black wire from my winch ESC nearly caught on fire within seconds. ????

 

[mikemcE]

That's what I did, that's the problem. I pulled the red wire from my winch ESC and the ground/black wire from my winch ESC nearly caught on fire within seconds. ????

I’m suspecting backfeed power from somewhere.


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[Panther6834]

I don't know how that would be possible. If I'm not mistaken I can't just plug in a small brushed motor (my winch) to the RX and expect to control it from my 3rd channel. I need a controller of some sort to send power to the winch according to my 3rd channel input, hence having a tiny 10a brushed ESC. The 2nd small ESC IS the winch controller.

A lot of people use a 2nd small brushed ESC as a winch controller.

A lot of people buy winches with built-in controllers. Alternately...and what several people I know have done, is to get a separate winch controller that either has it's own separate remote (and receives power from a separate 1-2 cell LiPo)...or a separate winch controller that the winch plus into on one end, and the other plugs into an unused channel on the Rx.


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[KingRaptor]

I found my actual winch controller in my pile of parts that works with the 3rd channel as intended. I gave up on that small ESC winch controller, I think it had a faulty BEC anyway.

 

[Voodoobrew]

Where did you get the ground and positive for your winch esc?

Please make a wiring diagram.

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[MOguy]

First thing I'd ask, why run a separate ESC just to run/control a winch? Why not power the winch either from the Rx, from an external BEC, or directly through a battery? Using a separate ESC, just for a winch, seems...uh...(pardon my 'French' here) idiotic.


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Depending on the winch much better power. The RC4WD winches controllers are a pain in the butt and can't handle much power. The controller is good at 7.4 volts but if you try to power it straight of the battery it fries (i found out the hard way), but the winch itself can handle straight 3s. But you still need something to control the winch and an ESC works perfect. If you ditch the controller and wire the winch like a motor and then control it off a 3 position switch through your receiver (delete the power wire) to your controller they perform very well.

 

[MOguy]

Each ESC both work great for their purpose on their own. However, when I connect BOTH ESCS to the receiver, and pulled the RED wire from the winch ESC and turned everything ON it burned the black ground wire on the winch ESC. I managed to unplug everything before further damage. I thought I was supposed to pull a RED wire from one of the ESCs? How come it nearly caught on fire? Everything was connected correctly otherwise.

1x ESC is for the main motor. Hobbywing Quicrun 1080 powering a HH Torquemaster.

1x ESC is for the winch. Tiny 10a generic ESC powering the winch. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DU49XXS?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details

Your winch should be wired like a motor.

For my power I just have an inline splitter between the battery and the ESCs.

Before you plug in your second ESC into the receiver you have to cut that power wire. You don't want that ESC to send power pack to the receiver. The receiver is already powered from the main ESC.

 

[Voodoobrew]

Your winch should be wired like a motor.

For my power I just have an inline splitter between the battery and the ESCs.

Before you plug in your second ESC into the receiver you have to cut that power wire. You don't want that ESC to send power pack to the receiver. The receiver is already powered from the main ESC.

He did cut the power wire...

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[MOguy]

He did cut the power wire...

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I saw that, above he said he thinks it was a bad BEC in his ESC.

 

[Voodoobrew]

This can happen if you power the second esc from the balance port and don't pick the correct negative terminal.

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