Bush Resigns!

[TexasSP]

binary terror, you are wrong again on your assesment of the first ammendment. No where do you find the term "separation of church and state". This phrase was instead lifted from a document penned by Thomas Jefferson who in spite of what liberal historians would like to believe and teach, was in fact a Christian. One simply agreeing with accurate or good parts of another religion does not mean the in fact accept that religion as being correct. I agree with Judaism all through the old testament, where they choose to stop Christianity moves on.

As for the Free Mason part, you are wrong again. I have a long family history of Free Masons and can assure you that Christianity is a requirement of membership period. Comparing your college fraternity of a bunch of boys getting drunk together to Free Masons is a stretch at best. It would do you well to truly understand where Free Masonry began and what it's impact has really been. Again, not what a bunch of liberal historians want to skew it as.

I simply present information while you as a typical liberal want to turn around and lob your little insults such as "can't google" and silly remarks of the nature. How lame can you get?

PS: I go a lot further than google to get my information, I see no reason to rely on a source for information that is run by admitted liberals.

 

[Rat1]

I did both of those things, it seems that people who form opinions based on SNL are grouped in with people who actually appreciate the things that Mr. Obama has to offer. I don't care how "socialist" this "Hussain" guy seems to you guys, healthcare, social security, and Iraq all need reforming. It simply seemed to me that Mccain wasn't willing to change things that, under Bush, were not working.

For someone born in 1992, which makes you 16 or so, you have alot of opinions for someone that was not legally able to vote.

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/member.php?u=13533

Heck, you were how old when bush started his first term?

Oh but then all 16 year olds no everything don't they. I know my Daughter thinks so.

When you have been through a few presidents such as I have at 40 year of age then get back to me.


I personally am pretty familiar with the democratic party and how they do things that for the most part ar not what is good for this country.

 

[ZIP]

No need to personally insult me, I called him Mr. Obama out of respect for his position. The simplistic view of "grab our guns and kick those illegals out" is outrageous. Not only would it be inhumane but totally impossible... Israel all over again, might wanna do some research on that to see what happens when you uproot thousands of people"thumbsup"

I totally understand what people are saying.... 152 days. If you don't trust that maybe you should trust his law degrees. He also did a lot more than just "act like karl marx". Try reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama#Legislation "thumbsup"
or
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bills_sponsored_by_Barack_Obama_in_the_United_States_Senate "thumbsup"

If you think I insulted you man are you going to have a tough time in the adult world. Wait until your boss comes down and calls you everything but human because you made a mistake. I do know exacltly what Hussein...and I just can't call him Mr anything... has done. He has been whitewashed by the media. He can't produce a TRUE birth certificate, miltary draft registartion card, Harvard degree or even a transcript of his acedemic records. Had he been anywhere except that liberal political cesspool of Chicago and supported by the likes of terrorist Bill Ayers and star of the Democratic financial world "crooked" Tony Rezko he would have been a laughing stock of the American political scene. Instead he's what??? The liberal savior that will turn back the waters and disarm the population so he can truly rule?? It's quite obvious you have been brainwahsed by some liberal... what?? teachers?? professors?? parents??? Hmmm. You sound just like my 22 year old grandson that voted for Hussein because his professors at MSU told him to. He's a brilliant student but as stupid as a stone. I am very dissapointed in choices. He will be a highly eductaed burger flipper...if he can even get that job away from some illegal alien.:-(

 

[ZIP]

BTW kid I've been voting for presidents for 43 years and this POS is the worst most despicable person I've ever seen. Why if it that the FBI is reporting there have been more death threats against him than any president elect in history? Could it be he's just misunderstood??

 

[binaryterror]

No where do you find the term "separation of church and state".

Read my post I clearly stated that the first section of the first amendment was in fact stating that the government shall respect no religion or make laws around it. I stated the Foundering fathers and authors and signers of the constitution were for the seperation of church and state and they were for freedoms of religion among other freedoms we are so lucky to have today.

Here is the exact letter you speak of, from Jefferson to the Danbury Baptists in 1802: "Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."

James Madison, the principle drafter of the Bill Of Rights (1st amendment was in there :shock: ) was another early user of the term. He often wrote of "total separation of the church from the state." <1819 letter to Robert Walsh> Also "practical distinction between Religion and Civil Government is essential to the purity of both, and as guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States." <1811 letter to Baptist Churches>

As for the Free Mason part, you are wrong again. I have a long family history of Free Masons and can assure you that Christianity is a requirement of membership period. Comparing your college fraternity of a bunch of boys getting drunk together to Free Masons is a stretch at best. It would do you well to truly understand where Free Masonry began and what it's impact has really been. Again, not what a bunch of liberal historians want to skew it as.

A Fraternity is a fraternity, a band of men coming together to help a community and each other along side abiding by the laws set thereforth in a structure and ranking members. You assume all college fraternitys only drink and party (must have never researched this, Pot meet Kettle), you sir yourself are nothing more than believing a media twist. Have you ever been in a Fraternity, specifically a college fraternity? My Fraternity had many community outreach and helping programs. We worked on charity events in the community, donated time and charity fund raising to charities, through Fraternity events. We had fun as well, but I'm sure Freemasons also have get togethers that could get to drinking and good times.

Show me a single proof point that claims ALL Freemason must be of Christian belief, short of the official Swedish Rite. Not "my family told me", hard proof. You might also want to note Freemason is one word, not 2. The data I see is that a true Chrstian can not believe in Chrsitianity and Freemasonry, I will however look happily to your proof otherwise.

PS: I go a lot further than google to get my information, I see no reason to rely on a source for information that is run by admitted liberals.

I googled the term "Constitutional Text" to show you the point. Google had nothing to do with the resulting webpage I chose which just so happened to clearly and tactfully post the entire history and many notes on the Constitution. Google didn't give me the answer, they provided to me search choices. If you are to disagree with my choice in resulting website to post fact on the actual text of the first amendment post one in which says my data facts were wrong.

Looking back you've never provided any data, only more arguement. You've never proved Jefferson to be Christian without a doubt (you have Deism and Unitarianism to disprove). You have not yet proved how Freemasonry requires Christian membership. You have not proven how Google and all its resulting search pages are "only liberal". You even don't give fact or proof on who you research with, you make a statement "I go further than Google", but then lack any proof or possible other sources you use.

 

[binaryterror]

Why if it that the FBI is reporting there have been more death threats against him than any president elect in history? Could it be he's just misunderstood??

The KKK, white supremacy, neo-natzi's, red necks, ignorants that before now never had to deal with anyone but old white men as presidents. Those people all have racial problems they are pissed and will make death threats. Again its a group of people who have show violence in their ways however until a Black man was voted in had no need to threaten a president based only on race. Would the KKK or its members threaten Bush? No reason he's white and christian.

Hussein is his middle name. Why do you insist on calling him by his middle name? That's a very Canadian thing, not an American thing. Well in your case it is a "lack of respect" to cause a stir. You are only doing it to heighten your weak stance.

43 years of voting...so you are now 61 years old and find calling this "kid" out? Grow up sir, grow up.

Well MR COOLKID can you or any other Hussein lover point out one good thing that he ever did that benefitted America or real Americans???

1. Obama directed Illinois' Project Vote from April to October 1992, a voter registration drive with a staff of ten and seven hundred volunteers; it achieved its goal of registering 150,000 of 400,000 unregistered African Americans in the state, and led to Crain's Chicago Business naming Obama to its 1993 list of "40 under Forty" powers to be.
2. In 2001, as co-chairman of the bipartisan Joint Committee on Administrative Rules, Obama supported Republican Governor Ryan's payday loan regulations and predatory mortgage lending regulations aimed at averting home foreclosures.
3. Obama introduced an initiative bearing his name: the Coburn–Obama Transparency Act, which authorized the establishment of USAspending.gov, a web search engine on federal spending. On June 3, 2008, Senator Obama, along with Senators Thomas R. Carper, Tom Coburn, and John McCain, introduced follow-up legislation: Strengthening Transparency and Accountability in Federal Spending Act of 2008.
4. Obama also introduced Deceptive Practices and Voter Intimidation Prevention Act, a bill to criminalize deceptive practices in federal elections.

 

[dezfan]

1. Gee, who did that benefit I wonder?

2. So he supported someone else's idea, yeah.

3. Transparency?:ror: Wow, I sure wish his credentials were transparent.

4. Again I laugh.:ror: I'm sure all those Acorn "volunteers" are worried.:roll:

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-complete-guide-to-acorn-voter-fraud/

Now, what about the multiple anti gun legislative measures he supported?

 

[ZIP]

1. Gee, who did that benefit I wonder?

2. So he supported someone else's idea, yeah.

3. Transparency?:ror: Wow, I sure wish his credentials were transparent.

4. Again I laugh.:ror: I'm sure all those Acorn "volunteers" are worried.:roll:

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-complete-guide-to-acorn-voter-fraud/

Now, what about the multiple anti gun legislative measures he supported?

Yep you nailed all that trash right on nose. Just remember anti gun legislation benefits a lot of "people" mainly criminals. Remember criminals prefer unarmed victims and that goes for scumbag politicans too.

 

[binaryterror]

1. Gee, who did that benefit I wonder?

American voters who lived in Illinois. Service to get people the ability to register is not a bad thing. Paint it how you will.

2. So he supported someone else's idea, yeah.

Which means his support and vote on the act would help propel it to law and protect the US citizens.

3. Transparency?:ror: Wow, I sure wish his credentials were transparent.

You had nothing to say here, probably didn't even research the bill or the word Transparent. Come on you are smarter than that my friend. You wish you could see through his credentials?

4. Again I laugh.:ror: I'm sure all those Acorn "volunteers" are worried.:roll:

ACORN was paid for services during the Democratic campaign, not the Presidential campaign. It was mis-labeled on a document, yes it was wrong to mis-label however the document was amended before it was even brought up by McCain's camp.

Now, what about the multiple anti gun legislative measures he supported?

Is this the only concern you have in life? I like my ability to own guns, and am a happy gun owner. However truth be told the Economy, Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the Deficit growing leaps and bounds are more important issues to me.

With those 3 things as his primary target, I doubt he will have time to focus on gun ownership. I also don't think his plans would pass the House or Senate, even though they are Democrat controlled, many Democrats and the independents feel gun ownership (not assault weapons) is protected by the 2nd amendment.

 

[ZIP]

The KKK, white supremacy, neo-natzi's, red necks, ignorants that before now never had to deal with anyone but old white men as presidents. Those people all have racial problems they are pissed and will make death threats. Again its a group of people who have show violence in their ways however until a Black man was voted in had no need to threaten a president based only on race. Would the KKK or its members threaten Bush? No reason he's white and christian.

Hussein is his middle name. Why do you insist on calling him by his middle name? That's a very Canadian thing, not an American thing. Well in your case it is a "lack of respect" to cause a stir. You are only doing it to heighten your weak stance.

43 years of voting...so you are now 61 years old and find calling this "kid" out? Grow up sir, grow up.

I have absolutely no respect for that man nor anybody that voted for him. I'll call him any name I want. Hussein fits and I don't care if it causes a stir. KKK, red neck, neo nazis, ignorants.... blame it on them when it's a hell of a lot more wide spread than that. Bush is a white Christian and Hussein is what??? A black (not even a real black) muslim??? Jew??? Buddhist??? Atheist??? Communist??? oops that's not a religion HAH!!! Why do you capitalize black and not white. Little subtle racism here??...BLACK POWdER Hey did you support Kwame too?? He's about the same ilk except a lot more stupid.

I'm actually 64.... couldn't vote til I was 21... and I spent 42 years of that 64 in DETROIT...born and raised...until affirmative action and black on white crime forced me to take my family and flee to the suburbs... and you pal smack of Coleman's racism...that was a model for Hussein...the idiot hates his grandmother's race.

I can't talk anymore about this pig it makes me sick.

 

[dezfan]

American voters who lived in Illinois. Service to get people the ability to register is not a bad thing. Paint it how you will.

IMO, it was self serving.

Which means his support and vote on the act would help propel it to law and protect the US citizens.

You miss the point AGAIN. A LEADER would have led the act, as w/ so much else, all Obama did was tag along.

You had nothing to say here, probably didn't even research the bill or the word Transparent. Come on you are smarter than that my friend. You wish you could see through his credentials?

Yes, I want to see through his credentials.:roll: My understanding of transparency describes a situation that occurs when documents are openly provided, and important information to voters and the media is not restricted. None of which Obama has done. Why? What is he hiding?

ACORN was paid for services during the Democratic campaign, not the Presidential campaign. It was mis-labeled on a document, yes it was wrong to mis-label however the document was amended before it was even brought up by McCain's camp.

The point is, Acorn and Obama have a very close knit relationship. If Obama is so keen on criminalizing deceptive actions during elections, why align himself w/ such a well know radical socialist organization? They will stoop to any level to achieve their goals. Laws don't matter to them, as they interfere w/ their agenda.

Is this the only concern you have in life? I like my ability to own guns, and am a happy gun owner. However truth be told the Economy, Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the Deficit growing leaps and bounds are more important issues to me.

It's not a ability to own a firearm, it is a RIGHT! All of my rights are important to me. The right to bear arms is the one under direct threat from Obama and his radical followers at this time. An unarmed society is nothing more than sheep, waiting for slaughter. After we are disarmed, the other rights will be much easier to remove.

With those 3 things as his primary target, I doubt he will have time to focus on gun ownership. I also don't think his plans would pass the House or Senate, even though they are Democrat controlled, many Democrats and the independents feel gun ownership (not assault weapons) is protected by the 2nd amendment.

I just hope everyone pays their NRA dues and is ready to stand up for their 2nd Amendment Rights. Remember what a truly great American, Mr. Benjamen Franklin said, " Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."

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[ZIP]

IMO, it was self serving.





You miss the point AGAIN. A LEADER would have led the act, as w/ so much else, all Obama did was tag along.





Yes, I want to see through his credentials.:roll: My understanding of transparency describes a situation that occurs when documents are openly provided, and important information to voters and the media is not restricted. None of which Obama has done. Why? What is he hiding?




The point is, Acorn and Obama have a very close knit relationship. If Obama is so keen on criminalizing deceptive actions during elections, why align himself w/ such a well know radical socialist organization? They will stoop to any level to achieve their goals. Laws don't matter to them, as they interfere w/ their agenda.





It's not a ability to own a firearm, it is a RIGHT! All of my rights are important to me. The right to bear arms is the one under direct threat from Obama and his radical followers at this time. An unarmed society is nothing more than sheep, waiting for slaughter. After we are disarmed, the other rights will be much easier to remove.



I just hope everyone pays their NRA dues and is ready to stand up for their 2nd Amendment Rights. Remember what a truly great American, Mr. Benjamen Franklin said, " Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."

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Well said Dez well said. What liberals don't seem to understand is that we true conservatives value our rights and freedoms more than anything and don't want a big intrusive overbearing socialist government which is exactly what we are going to get starting January 20, 2009. We are going to be forced to defend our rights one way or the other and in that light the 2nd amendment is the most important. You are of course right in saying if we lose the 2nd the others will soon follow. Hussein has already said he wants a national security force equipped and funded like the military. He knows for now that he could never get away with using the military against US... you know posse comitatus... but disregarding the constitution he could send out a national security force made up of civilians(thugs) to forcibly disarm America and it will start quietly in places like Miami and Detroit, Newark and LA where they will disarm good people because they know who has guns there. It won't be by federal law because he could never get that passed again like Slick Willy did but it will be by executive order which in this country has the rule of law, which scares the daylights out of me. It may take a long time but it just might happen.:-(

 

[JIA's Dad]

All I will say is after Obama was elected I found a new bumper sticker.

 

[Soya]

What are we arguing about again?

 

[ian48065]

how did i miss this thread?

 

[coolkidjf7]

For someone born in 1992, which makes you 16 or so, you have alot of opinions for someone that was not legally able to vote.

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/member.php?u=13533

Heck, you were how old when bush started his first term?

Oh but then all 16 year olds no everything don't they. I know my Daughter thinks so.

When you have been through a few presidents such as I have at 40 year of age then get back to me.


I personally am pretty familiar with the democratic party and how they do things that for the most part ar not what is good for this country.

Since I'm underage I have no place in the "big kid" disscusion... great argument, kinda sounds like something a "kid" would come up with; "I'm older so I know more" good one:roll:

If you think I insulted you man are you going to have a tough time in the adult world. Wait until your boss comes down and calls you everything but human because you made a mistake. I do know exacltly what Hussein...and I just can't call him Mr anything... has done. He has been whitewashed by the media. He can't produce a TRUE birth certificate, miltary draft registartion card, Harvard degree or even a transcript of his acedemic records. Had he been anywhere except that liberal political cesspool of Chicago and supported by the likes of terrorist Bill Ayers and star of the Democratic financial world "crooked" Tony Rezko he would have been a laughing stock of the American political scene. Instead he's what??? The liberal savior that will turn back the waters and disarm the population so he can truly rule?? It's quite obvious you have been brainwahsed by some liberal... what?? teachers?? professors?? parents??? Hmmm. You sound just like my 22 year old grandson that voted for Hussein because his professors at MSU told him to. He's a brilliant student but as stupid as a stone. I am very dissapointed in choices. He will be a highly eductaed burger flipper...if he can even get that job away from some illegal alien.:-(

I was "influenced" by my own understanding of topics, all this hate and you're saying *I'm* brainwashed? Aparently I won't make it in the real world because I recognize that insulting people in an argument makes for a shouting match. Real mature for a 64(?) year old.

BTW kid I've been voting for presidents for 43 years and this POS is the worst most despicable person I've ever seen. Why if it that the FBI is reporting there have been more death threats against him than any president elect in history? Could it be he's just misunderstood??

Could it be his color, maybe the tough times, maybe his political stances. Keep in mind, over history, it's usually the good guys who get ended before their time"thumbsup"

What are we arguing about again?

I have no idea:lol::lol:

 

[binaryterror]

I have absolutely no respect for that man nor anybody that voted for him.

I'll give you that really since I have never respected W. Bush in the 2 terms he's been in the White House. Though I still do regard him as the President of my country.

Hussein fits and I don't care if it causes a stir.

No I understand that, you want to cause a fit. It makes sense, and to be truthfully honest that was fully expected by most.

[blame it on them when it's a hell of a lot more wide spread than that. Bush is a white Christian and Hussein is what??? A black (not even a real black) muslim??? Jew??? Buddhist??? Atheist??? Communist??? oops that's not a religion HAH!!!

Well Obama is in fact of mixed heritage. He is both black and white mixed. He is however a Christian, that is a known fact. So he believes in your God and Bush's God, you got something in common with him! Atheism nor Communism are religions, more of your fun way to jab.

Why do you capitalize black and not white.

Thats called typing error.

Hey did you support Kwame too?? He's about the same ilk except a lot more stupid.

I can not vote nor support Kwame. He was in Detroit, I live in a very close suburb. Do I like him or his actions, no. His actions were criminal and as a lawyer you think he'd have been able to comprehend what laws he was breaking. Obama does not share his unlawful means, good lord even an Obama - hater most likely would give Obama more credit than Kwame.

I can't talk anymore about this pig it makes me sick.

I bet you will...

 

[TwistedXT]

oh oh oh.. can i play? bitch bitch bitch, wine wine wine, snyde remarks, put down, curse, bitch, wine, complain some more, make valid point where none needs to be made, argue, rebuttle, name call, put down, back scratch, promote, disregaurd, and ban.


did everyone get that or do i need to repeat myself?

 

[cfox109]

oh oh oh.. can i play? bitch bitch bitch, wine wine wine, snyde remarks, put down, curse, bitch, wine, complain some more, make valid point where none needs to be made, argue, rebuttle, name call, put down, back scratch, promote, disregaurd, and ban.


did everyone get that or do i need to repeat myself?

Hahahahaha thats what i was thinking, it is entertaining when you have nothing better to do at work.

 

[calcat430d]

its not just him(mr. hussein) i am worried about, it is all the crazy leftist liberals he now has empowered. this is a culture war and unless the silent majority stands up, the progressives will take over this country. with the help of the uninformed and the mass media.the dumbing down of america is now almost complete.