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[high plains drifter]

One word - haters. And Traxxas has more haters than any brand in RC. Companies on top often get the most hate though.

I know a guy... We've never run RCs together but we talk RC stuff a few times a month. He brought up how much he hates Traxxas and I asked him outright "What specifically?" His reply was about the Traxxas fan boys that he encounters online. I told him that didn't seem like the best reason to hate on the brand lol.

 

[high plains drifter]

double tap reverse

So set the ESC for standard fwd/ neutral/ reverse... simple.

 

[JatoTheRipper]

double tap reverse

OK then change the setting to Crawl Mode. You can't blame Traxxas for not reading the manual.

Sport Mode: 100% FWD, 100% brakes, 100% REV
Race Mode: 100% FWD, 100% brakes, no REV
Training Mode:* 50% FWD, 100% brakes, 50% REV
Trail Mode: 100% FWD, 100% Brake, 100% REV, Trail-Tuned Brake on Neutral
Crawl Mode: 100% FWD, 100% Instant REV, 100% Brake on Neutral

 

[JatoTheRipper]

I know a guy... We've never run RCs together but we talk RC stuff a few times a month. He brought up how much he hates Traxxas and I asked him outright "What specifically?" His reply was about the Traxxas fan boys that he encounters online. I told him that didn't seem like the best reason to hate on the brand lol.

That's just the opposite of being a fanboy. It's being a blind hater.

 

[high plains drifter]

That's just the opposite of being a fanboy. It's being a blind hater.

That was the feeling I had gotten whenever the name had come up so I eventually asked him what his deal was with Traxxas. I wasn't too surprised that there wasn't an actual issue. He's a cool guy and I'd like to find some segment of RC that we could do together but I don't drift and he doesn't crawl lol.

 

[ferp420]

OK then change the setting to Crawl Mode. You can't blame Traxxas for not reading the manual.

Sport Mode: 100% FWD, 100% brakes, 100% REV
Race Mode: 100% FWD, 100% brakes, no REV
Training Mode:* 50% FWD, 100% brakes, 50% REV
Trail Mode: 100% FWD, 100% Brake, 100% REV, Trail-Tuned Brake on Neutral
Crawl Mode: 100% FWD, 100% Instant REV, 100% Brake on Neutral

So set the ESC for standard fwd/ neutral/ reverse... simple.

i looked it up tryed everything but could
never get rig of the double tap for reverse
looked up on you tube and there was no way to get rid of the double tap the esc wasent programable and even with a new radio it still had to double tap reverse
this might have changed but dosent matter cause i wont work on them anymore anyway that was the end of it for me that and to many burner up escs servos and motors

 

[Col_Sanders]

That was the feeling I had gotten whenever the name had come up so I eventually asked him what his deal was with Traxxas. I wasn't too surprised that there wasn't an actual issue. He's a cool guy and I'd like to find some segment of RC that we could do together but I don't drift and he doesn't crawl lol.

Traxxas has done some things to earn hate. Their copyright and patent lawsuits are a big deal, but most people dont really know about those. Working on a 2wd Slash will also make you hate them. But they have also done a lot of things right. Their products are very newbie friendly and that is what the hobby needs. We always need new blood.

i looked it up tryed everything but could
never get rig of the double tap for reverse
looked up on you tube and there was no way to get rid of the double tap the esc wasent programable and even with a new radio it still had to double tap reverse
this might have changed but dosent matter cause i wont work on them anymore anyway that was the end of it for me that and to many burner up escs servos and motors

Sounds like you just couldnt get it to work...The XL5 ESC was in them from the beginning. I bought one of the dealer demo units from a hobby shop in Dallas before they were officially for sale and it had an XL5. I did not have to double tap for reverse.

 

[BamaRuckus]

Traxxas is bigger so it’s always going to get some hate. I am not brand loyal but based off reviews I’m starting off with the TRX4. I will end up getting an element sendero and a basecamp and then will review in my own outlook the likes and don’t likes of them.

 

[Col_Sanders]

They are good trucks. I've owned a few TRX4s and liked them. Most all I do at this point is compete and they are not well suited to that at all, but for a general trail rig, they are solid.

 

[89Industries]

Traxxas has done some things to earn hate. Their copyright and patent lawsuits are a big deal, but most people dont really know about those. Working on a 2wd Slash will also make you hate them. But they have also done a lot of things right. Their products are very newbie friendly and that is what the hobby needs. We always need new blood.



Sounds like you just couldnt get it to work...The XL5 ESC was in them from the beginning. I bought one of the dealer demo units from a hobby shop in Dallas before they were officially for sale and it had an XL5. I did not have to double tap for reverse.

I have a couple traxxass vehicles including a more than 15 year old slash 2wd that came with an XL5 esc.

1. What's wrong with the Slash that would make people hate them. I've torn it apart and put it back together but seems mostly like other RC vehicles. Just curious.

2. Can I program my old ass XL5 esc to the different controller configs as listed above or is it too old? Its old enough to not have a LVC warning for lipo batteries so not sure how much more useful this would make the esc to future projects anyway.

3. I find it funny that people complain about the complexity of something like an axial scx10iii transmission and then rave about a TRX-4 with a 2 speed transmission and cable actuated locking differentials and all the extra crap that goes with it.

4. If I never discovered brands beyond Traxxas, I wouldn't still be doing this hobby. They might be good but to me they are boring. At least every truck they make isn't a Toyota or Jeep. Though they certainly over use GM and Ford trucks which are boring and ubiquitous in real life as well.

 

[Col_Sanders]

I have a couple traxxass vehicles including a more than 15 year old slash 2wd that came with an XL5 esc.

1. What's wrong with the Slash that would make people hate them. I've torn it apart and put it back together but seems mostly like other RC vehicles. Just curious.

2. Can I program my old ass XL5 esc to the different controller configs as listed above or is it too old? Its old enough to not have a LVC warning for lipo batteries so not sure how much more useful this would make the esc to future projects anyway.

3. I find it funny that people complain about the complexity of something like an axial scx10iii transmission and then rave about a TRX-4 with a 2 speed transmission and cable actuated locking differentials and all the extra crap that goes with it.

4. If I never discovered brands beyond Traxxas, I wouldn't still be doing this hobby. They might be good but to me they are boring. At least every truck they make isn't a Toyota or Jeep. Though they certainly over use GM and Ford trucks which are boring and ubiquitous in real life as well.

1. I'm not saying the Slash is a bad vehicle, I just did not like working on it. For one, getting to the transmission was way more of a pain than it should have been. Had to disassemble the entire rear half of the truck for something that should have been just a few screws.

2. No idea. I wouldnt bother anyway. Hobbywing 1080 is cheap enough.

3. The Sport was what was recommended. It has none of that. I thought the lockers were fun to play with and with a brushed motor, the 2 speed was ok.

4. People complain a lot about Jeeps being overdone, but how many options are there really for straight axle 4x4s for them to model after?

 

[JatoTheRipper]

Traxxas has done some things to earn hate. Their copyright and patent lawsuits are a big deal, but most people dont really know about those. Working on a 2wd Slash will also make you hate them. But they have also done a lot of things right. Their products are very newbie friendly and that is what the hobby needs. We always need new blood.



Sounds like you just couldnt get it to work...The XL5 ESC was in them from the beginning. I bought one of the dealer demo units from a hobby shop in Dallas before they were officially for sale and it had an XL5. I did not have to double tap for reverse.

I think a lot of people hate Traxxas because of the copyright and patent stuff not realizing so many other companies do this. Intellectual property makes the business world go 'round. And defending it is a must or the company risks losing the right to protect it.

What don't you like about a 2WS Slash? I think they are super simple.

I have a couple traxxass vehicles including a more than 15 year old slash 2wd that came with an XL5 esc.

3. I find it funny that people complain about the complexity of something like an axial scx10iii transmission and then rave about a TRX-4 with a 2 speed transmission and cable actuated locking differentials and all the extra crap that goes with it.

I've never killed an XL-5 ESC or a Traxxas Titan motor. If only Traxxas would make their servos as good as their ESCs and motors.

3. There's a difference. The Traxxas transmission and diffs are complex, but they are reliable and work as designed every time. The SCX10 III and Axial Capra transmissions are complex and do not work reliably as designed. On the Axial, the dig gets stuck and does not reliably lock and unlock.

 

[89Industries]

1. I'm not saying the Slash is a bad vehicle, I just did not like working on it. For one, getting to the transmission was way more of a pain than it should have been. Had to disassemble the entire rear half of the truck for something that should have been just a few screws.

2. No idea. I wouldnt bother anyway. Hobbywing 1080 is cheap enough.

3. The Sport was what was recommended. It has none of that. I thought the lockers were fun to play with and with a brushed motor, the 2 speed was ok.

4. People complain a lot about Jeeps being overdone, but how many options are there really for straight axle 4x4s for them to model after?

1. makes sense. After just putting together 2 Tamiya buggies though I feel like its about par for the course.

2. done. figured I'd ask though.

3. correct but others were discussed

4. I guess if you are going for full realism then you are correct, though then they should all mostly come with leaf springs right? I admit I don't pay attention to modern 1:1 trucks though so maybe not. I'm not so picky and made a VW bug with solid rear axle and independent front and call it a fully modified purpose built vehicle. Like the people who used to put car bodies on top of truck frames. In fact last fall I drove up one of the mountain canyons here behind a guy in his Lexus SC 430 on at least 38" tires and a full exo-cage. Much more interesting to me than all the toyota and jeeps with every off road accessory they can buy. Maybe not a better vehicle, just more interesting.

 

[JimrC]

On the Axial, the dig gets stuck and does not reliably lock and unlock.

I had these problems only with the stock radio but since changing to a Flysky GT5 and now a Radiolink and being able to adjust the end points better ... I have not had any issues with the dig unlocking or locking (no need to reverse either). Still using the stock mini servo also. The stock radio with the scx10iii was my issue I found, the dig unit works every time

 

[89Industries]

I think a lot of people hate Traxxas because of the copyright and patent stuff not realizing so many other companies do this. Intellectual property makes the business world go 'round. And defending it is a must or the company risks losing the right to protect it.

This is an oversimplification of what is happening. I'll give you an example of the type of shit that Traxxas does but from bicycles since this is where my personal ethos was formed. I will never buy a Specialized because of the frivolous lawsuits similar to Traxxas. One example being Specialized copyrighted "Roubaix" for a model of bicycle. They then sued a small bike and coffee shop in Canada called "Roubaix Cafe and bikes". This totally failed to take into account that there has been a race in Europe for the last 75-100 years called Paris-Roubaix or the fact that the shop existed before the copyright. Or the fact that the small shop was in no way threatening Specialized businesses. But small shop doesn't have money to pay a lawyer to defend against the behemoth bike company.

I'm all for protecting intellectual property but you don't have to be a dick about it. And that's pretty much how I view Traxxas. I'm not even saying I wouldn't buy a traxxas product in the future, just I prefer not give my money to a bunch of dicks.

3. There's a difference. The Traxxas transmission and diffs are complex, but they are reliable and work as designed every time. The SCX10 III and Axial Capra transmissions are complex and do not work reliably as designed. On the Axial, the dig gets stuck and does not reliably lock and unlock.

I have both of these and have no such issues. Both are reliable and work as well as the VFD Twin in my vanquish which this forum seems to hold in the highest regards. In fact only my VFD twin destroyed the transmission gears. The VFD twin is also the only truck that I have that is so loud that I am embarrassed to take it to trails with hikers.

 

[high plains drifter]

I feel like Gibson guitars is about to join the chat lol.

Yeah... I was mainly referencing the hate on the ground level regarding Traxxas electronics. I don't think in regards to many products/ brands that the hate stems from copyright infringement/ lawsuits. If people are generally happy with a product, they tend to look past the lawsuit stuff. Folks want reliability and features at a digestible price. Give them that and they're satisfied. I think that customer support is a big factor too but less so if you're not feeling as if you often need that service.

And fwiw I hate how much money my wife and I give monthly/ annually to companies that we really do hate or that we know treat their consumers like crap... Spectrum ( formerly Time Warner) comes to mind immediately.

 

[VoltSCX]

There's a difference. The Traxxas transmission and diffs are complex, but they are reliable and work as designed every time. The SCX10 III and Axial Capra transmissions are complex and do not work reliably as designed. On the Axial, the dig gets stuck and does not reliably lock and unlock.

I've never had issues with any Axial transmissions or diffs, is that a common weak point? I've got two (about to be 3) of the 10.3s with the dig/2speed trans and both have worked reliably without issue and only basic maintenence (cleaning/greasing). The same goes for the Capra, although the trans is a bit noisy. They're also fairly easy to work on in my experience. As for the dig getting stuck, the only time that happened for me was because I took the servo/linkage out to overhaul the trans and then reinstalled it later without re-calibrating and setting endpoints.

 

[89Industries]

I feel like Gibson guitars is about to join the chat lol.

I had forgotten about Gibson. That never affected me much since I am a lousy bass player that never needed more than my mexican made Fender P-bass

And fwiw I hate how much money my wife and I give monthly/ annually to companies that we really do hate or that we know treat their consumers like crap... Spectrum ( formerly Time Warner) comes to mind immediately.

I feel the same about Xfinity (Comcast) but there is no reasonable alternative where our house is.

 

[JatoTheRipper]

I had these problems only with the stock radio but since changing to a Flysky GT5 and now a Radiolink and being able to adjust the end points better ... I have not had any issues with the dig unlocking or locking (no need to reverse either). Still using the stock mini servo also. The stock radio with the scx10iii was my issue I found, the dig unit works every time

I bought the kit so RTR electronics were never involved. I'm not the only one with these issues.

This is an oversimplification of what is happening. I'll give you an example of the type of shit that Traxxas does but from bicycles since this is where my personal ethos was formed. I will never buy a Specialized because of the frivolous lawsuits similar to Traxxas. One example being Specialized copyrighted "Roubaix" for a model of bicycle. They then sued a small bike and coffee shop in Canada called "Roubaix Cafe and bikes". This totally failed to take into account that there has been a race in Europe for the last 75-100 years called Paris-Roubaix or the fact that the shop existed before the copyright. Or the fact that the small shop was in no way threatening Specialized businesses. But small shop doesn't have money to pay a lawyer to defend against the behemoth bike company.

I'm all for protecting intellectual property but you don't have to be a dick about it. And that's pretty much how I view Traxxas. I'm not even saying I wouldn't buy a traxxas product in the future, just I prefer not give my money to a bunch of dicks.



I have both of these and have no such issues. Both are reliable and work as well as the VFD Twin in my vanquish which this forum seems to hold in the highest regards. In fact only my VFD twin destroyed the transmission gears. The VFD twin is also the only truck that I have that is so loud that I am embarrassed to take it to trails with hikers.

Of course it's an oversimplification. I would go out on a limb and say none of us on this site truly understand copyright and patents lawsuits 100%. The cases get very messy. Traxxas isn't even in the top 100 of patent trolls if that's what you want to call them. And I'd argue they aren't patent trolls though. They are ruthless IP protectors and that doesn't bother me one bit. There are rules. These rules are laws. Both Traxxas and the infringers have access to them and must follow them just like we do. It's not like Traxxas is getting preferential treatment.

I'm not alone. My issues aren't made up in my head. The Capra transmission is more famous for it than the SCX10 III transmission. There's a reason so many people switched out the transmission on both of those rigs.

I feel like Gibson guitars is about to join the chat lol.

Yeah... I was mainly referencing the hate on the ground level regarding Traxxas electronics. I don't think in regards to many products/ brands that the hate stems from copyright infringement/ lawsuits. If people are generally happy with a product, they tend to look past the lawsuit stuff. Folks want reliability and features at a digestible price. Give them that and they're satisfied. I think that customer support is a big factor too but less so if you're not feeling as if you often need that service.

And fwiw I hate how much money my wife and I give monthly/ annually to companies that we really do hate or that we know treat their consumers like crap... Spectrum ( formerly Time Warner) comes to mind immediately.

On social media and some forums, people will claim they only hate Traxxas because of the lawsuits. It's hilarious because I know 99.9% of those people, maybe more, don't truly understand the issue.

Spectrum is a legalized monopoly. To say monopolies are illegal is total BS. They are legal when the companies fight hard enough and/or it is convenient for them.

I've never had issues with any Axial transmissions or diffs, is that a common weak point? I've got two (about to be 3) of the 10.3s with the dig/2speed trans and both have worked reliably without issue and only basic maintenence (cleaning/greasing). The same goes for the Capra, although the trans is a bit noisy. They're also fairly easy to work on in my experience. As for the dig getting stuck, the only time that happened for me was because I took the servo/linkage out to overhaul the trans and then reinstalled it later without re-calibrating and setting endpoints.

The sticky dig is a known issue. The Capra is more notorious for it than the SCX10 III.

 

[ferp420]

Sounds like you just couldnt get it to work...The XL5 ESC was in them from the beginning. I bought one of the dealer demo units from a hobby shop in Dallas before they were officially for sale and it had an XL5. I did not have to double tap for reverse.

ya i must have been doing something wrong dident matter anyway the esc smoked about 3 battery packs later i swaped in a cheap $12 newrain unit and it was leaps and bounds better
then about a month later his chick smashed it
i am in the process of rebuilding it now lol