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I'm getting sleepy too. This thread isn't helping much either.

Maybe "cocky" wasn't the right word. At any rate, the reason why you get blasted is because you are taking mods that have already been done and you act like you are the one that came up with them. You also have the "sleeper" term related so wrong to your Rubi. What you SHOULD be doing is installing a powerful motor and ESC with a high voltage Lipo. Oh wait, sorry, you're the 2S Lipo god and think it is the peasants bread and butter.

Get rid of those stock electronics if you want to go for the sleeper theme.

If I were you, I would stop posting up these silly build threads until you have something very interesting to show/talk about. Also, is there something about the plastic upper links that has more performance to them?? Please tell me, I would absolutely love to read what you come up with....

That's BS man and you know it..I never said im the only one to do anything on here...I have done things I haven't found on here but I don't come off saying I invented something..Ive given credit before for mods I copied..Thats just so off base and un called for to even suggest.

If I did a post with all vanquish and high dollar everything would it not be a silly thread?..i mean explain what you mean by silly...My helping noobs is silly..My own Honcho build is silly???..this thread was silly????...No its people with attitudes of its garbage unless you spend a lot of money is what makes this thread and forum silly...When did you buy a Holmes BRXL esc and put a stock axial sticker on it...Actually if anyone can point me to a thread with that id be very grateful...Good luck finding one.

By the way im not saying anymore about the build..you already know it anyways...You tell me what you can do to the links to make them stronger beside replacing them?..im listenening...you do know right?..or maybe you don't?..Well; you aren't interested anyway so move on to another high dollar thread...Nothing here you haven't seen or heard of before.

Your comment of "get rid of the stock electronics if I want a sleeper theme" just tells me you have no concept of what sleeper is..Please don't comment anymore on the subject and maybe read what I typed..maybe you wouldn't have made that comment.
 
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Actually find me any sleeper thread on here ..Ive already said I know people change gears and pinions but most show a lot other mods not falling into the "Sleeper " theme im doing.

So why so silly?..because you didn't think about it and I did??..I just don't get it I guess...or maybe I have that reversed?
 
That's BS man and you know it..I never said im the only one to do anything on here...I have done things I haven't found on here but I don't come off saying I invented something..Ive given credit before for mods I copied..Thats just so off base and un called for to even suggest.

If I did a post with all vanquish and high dollar everything would it not be a silly thread?..i mean explain what you mean by silly...My helping noobs is silly..My own Honcho build is silly???..this thread was silly????...No its people with attitudes of its garbage unless you spend a lot of money is what makes this thread and forum silly...When did you buy a Holmes BRXL esc and put a stock axial sticker on it...Actually if anyone can point me to a thread with that id be very grateful...Good luck finding one.

That wasn't how I read your first post on this thread nor on the other "performance" threads you've posted. ... What ever makes you sleep better at night.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with making your own parts (like links and brackets) but to say that VP products are too high but would rather pay 3x as much on replacement parts of the same part from Integy isn't very smart.

This thread is silly because you gave this whole paragraph about this sleeper and then you post up, essentially a Stock Rubi. When a sleeper is a vehicle that looks stock or crusty on the outside but has all of the owners money dumped into the mechanical parts of the vehicle. What have you done? Made new lower links... Your Honcho build was the exact same as this.... Stock.

It isn't how much money you spend that makes you famous on RCC. It is how well you invest your money into the hobby and the terrific American vendors that go along with it.

I could care less about making a stock Axial platform become a stock "sleeper".
 
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That wasn't how I read your first post on this thread nor on the other "performance" threads you've posted. ... What ever makes you sleep better at night.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with making your own parts (like links and brackets) but to say that VP products are too high but would rather pay 3x as much on replacement parts of the same part from Integy isn't very smart.

This thread is silly because you gave this whole paragraph about this sleeper and then you post up, essentially a Stock Rubi. When a sleeper is a vehicle that looks stock or crusty on the outside but has all of the owners money dumped into the mechanical parts of the vehicle. What have you done? Made new lower links... Your Honcho build was the exact same as this.... Stock.

It isn't how much money you spend that makes you famous on RCC. It is how well you invest your money into the hobby and the terrific American vendors that go along with it.

I could care less about making a stock Axial platform become a stock "sleeper".

Next time someone says they are going to do a build but show pics of the stock truck first you tell them the build sucks because its just a stock truck....I mean all builds start with the completed mods don't they?..If you read what I typed you would have seen I said it was an older pic...It was in its most stock form minus lower links and steering links I made for it..Never said I was keeping those on the truck nor even started the build yet..It was an introduction to the start of a build..Big difference..too many assume is what im noticing here and don't read everything before making comments...That's ok with me though...im not the one looking ignorant.

Ive had my "cheap" integy axles in my truck well over 2 months now..Was you expecting me to make a thread on how they fell apart or how I made a mistake buying 20 dollar axles...Well sorry to disappoint you man..They are still in the truck and doing just fine...No I don't compete with my truck and have more power than I need to warrant the best axles made..Doesnt make it a mistake buying lesser cost items for your particular needs..Thats ignorant to even think.

I have no problem with better quality items if I need them...I like a few of the vendors on here and have purchased items from them already and will purchase more in the future..so don't confuse me with someone who doesn't support vendors because I do if I like the product...Who wouldn't want the best on their rig..If I ever decide to compete and find I cant without those items then ill buy the best..but not everyone needs the best or even has the money for it.

None of my threads are to put me on a pedestal and make other seem small and ill never do a thread like that...If im proud of something ill show it but some don't like it apparently and that's just too bad.

Find a post by me where I said invented a mod and said im the best or no one else has done something I did before...There are some things I haven't seen done on here that I did..but you never find me saying im the king of rc because I came up with such and such..Dont even try to go there..its so far off base it isn't even funny.

By the way if that older pic was an up to date with the Sleeper mods I would take that as a compliment you thinking it was a stock scx10...That would be the purpose of the build if you understand what a sleeper is.

Are you sure that stock esc is really stock though?..you don't..Sucker!!!:lmao:
 
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Ill try and describe once more what a sleeper is....It is something that appears stock but it isn't...or maybe another example would be someone taking an older 93 cobra mustang and putting on stock lx wheels and takes off the svt and cobra badges to make it look like a stock 5.0 mustang.. Ive seen that done many times before.

Or maybe a vehicle without all the sporty flash with wheels and le mans racing stripes but has a powerful motor or an upgraded suspension or whatever.

A sleeper is pulling into a local hot rod hang out and seeing a POS looking car and never expecting it could whoop your azz in a drag race.

Who would expect an svo 4 cylinder mustang to out run even a new 5.0 mustang today...they are out there and can run low 9s..dont get suckered in because you have the flashy car with the big V8.

I know scx10s aren't drag cars but you get the idea...Its improved performance without others expecting it because they cant see it by looking at it.."A SLEEPER"

Its not a comp rig..it doesn't have flashy parts on it and I claim nothing of it being able to compete on a high level of competition nor claim to be the inventor of all things that are sleeper category..Either you get it or you don't..Not much more I can say about it.

Who needs more examples to understand it ,or where im coming from?.

If you do get it and understand it then help me with those who don't..They are easy to find if you read.
 
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Overdrive gears in the rear axle...Well you cant see the mod so you don't know its there..I mean everything else looks stock don't it?...Sucker!!!

Why would you overdrive the rear axle? That's just the opposite of what needs done for crawling, and will only make it want to tip rearward faster. You OD the front axle, and UD the rear.
 
Why would you overdrive the rear axle? That's just the opposite of what needs done for crawling, and will only make it want to tip rearward faster. You OD the front axle, and UD the rear.


Youre right..i always get that mixed up.
 
Is it still a sleeper if you tell everyone what you have done to it before you crawl circles around them?
 
In my opinion, a sleeper should appear stock, the RTR JK already looks like it has a lift, has aftermarket wheels, cage work, bumpers, blah, blah. If it's a "sleeper" it should have OEM wheels, tires, no lift, stock JK bumpers, and no visual cues as to its capability. Find a NB JK body, make it sit at stock ride height with OEM Jeep wheels and tires, and crawl like a comp crawler and as fast as a short course truck on 6S then I'll consider it a sleeper.
 
Is it still a sleeper if you tell everyone what you have done to it before you crawl circles around them?

Well; Never figured it would crawl circles around anything but maybe have someone scratching their head as to why it may have performed better considering they cant see any changes to it over stock.

And yea. its not such a sleeper if you tell everyone..but if I just posted a pic and told everyone it stock but out performs other stock trucks then I would really have a problem on here with people...lol

Some seem to think that's how I come across with my builds so maybe I should.:lmao:

Not something I planned building for anything more than just fun really.

I think some could have fun with a build like this with friends.
 
In my opinion, a sleeper should appear stock, the RTR JK already looks like it has a lift, has aftermarket wheels, cage work, bumpers, blah, blah. If it's a "sleeper" it should have OEM wheels, tires, no lift, stock JK bumpers, and no visual cues as to its capability. Find a NB JK body, make it sit at stock ride height with OEM Jeep wheels and tires, and crawl like a comp crawler and as fast as a short course truck on 6S then I'll consider it a sleeper.

Ive made no changes to ride height or body height on it..its as it came out of the box minus what I listed I changed to it.

Putting the stock lower links back on it and the replica aluminum steering set up would have it looking completely RTR stock on the outside and even under the body minus the Deans plug..But changes made you cant see or wouldnt have maybe considered someone would go through the extent to improve or hide.

Im just using the term sleeper from the real car scene but its not always just power that makes up one..Consider its a trail truck and overall speed isn't all that important as it would be to a maybe a street racer

Crawling/climbing abilities would be more sleeper qualities I would think for this scenario.
 
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sleeper to me is...
...stock looking vehicle
...with a ballzy bb bastard motor.

^ preferably something from the '60s 8)

well I assume the bb meant BigBlock.

I think I own a good example of a "sleeper", and I think it fulfills the above recommendations

1965 caprice, 396ci, TH400, 12bolt......motor has been rebuilt, punched 30 over, 182 domes, closed chamber heads......almost 12:1 comp.



yeah, it's a 4dr-a mom and pop car, that's the only way they came in '65"thumbsup"
 
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I had a 78' dodge aspen station wagon with a 454 big block with 2 four barrels and a 150 shot of nitrous. A turbo 400 with a trans brake. It ran headers into dual exhaust back up and over the rear end and then went into one 4" tip....lol So from behind it looked like a single pipe. The color of it was powder blue with powder blue interior. I couldn't tell how much money I took with that car.....lol
 
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