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$1.50/gal Gas

It all depends on the person and situation. Does he need the big truck to haul stuff? Did he get his truck at a severely discounted price? IMO, buying a new car that is slightly more fuel efficient which wastes a TON of resources is just as wasteful as driving a huge gas guzzler because you already own it.

why do you have to buy new?..

its not just slightly.. its HALF, imagine if somethign like 1/5 people in north america started using half as much fuel for their day to day grind?
you're also kind of missing the bigger picture, being that this whole wasting fuel shit isn't all that sustainable..
I shouldnt talk my truck only does 9L on 100k.
Id like to get a TDI golf like my moms she gets like 1000km to her 45 bucks.
 
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you're also kind of missing the bigger picture, being that this whole wasting fuel shit isn't all that sustainable..
No, I completely get what you are saying. Remember, I drive a free car and purchased a house that is only a few miles from my office (that isn't easy in a city of 6 million people). My wife drives less than I do and her corolla gets 35mpg.
 
pft .already at 4.10 a gallon here in Humboldt . goes up 5 or 10 cents every other day im positive it'll be at 5.00 within the next couple months
supposedly we have one of the highest prices of fuel in the nation !! pretty sure its because we have 1 oil suppler company for the county i guess. monopoly's suck!!
 
4. Part of the reason Venezuela has cheap ass gas is because they don't pump it full of additives and crap.

Iran uses cheap natural gas for their cars and sells the oil. Checkmate.

you're also kind of missing the bigger picture, being that this whole wasting fuel shit isn't all that sustainable.. .

The diesel engine was originally designed by a farmer to run on peanut oil. Guess what happened about after his design was bought? It was converted for diesel.

Back in the '80s several guys invented 100 MPG carburetors. Guess what happened to the technology? After whacking them Big Oil bought the designs and shelved them. The problem is not just wasteful people, rather science/technology is opposed to doing good for the sake of good. $$$$$
 
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Im driving my silverado lifted and im getting 5-7 mpg. I use my truck but more for play than enything. If gas gets around $4-5 range ill probley park my truck.
 
sweet man, thats gotta be an american made? i used to have a japan soloist from the late eighties or early 90,s..i let it go..what a mistake:oops: i have jackson c.o.w. now
as for gas prices my cherokee is parked in my back yard and i drive a suzuki swift as a daily driver now
gas yesterday was 1.29 a liter for 87..or about 5.20 a gallon
and we produce a fair bit of oil
 
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1. This plan was destined to fail from the start because of the simple fact that it was written by an engineer.

2. The ones who really should be pissed about fuel prices are those that buy diesel, which is essentially a by-product of the gasoline refining process.


3. If you can afford a $40k suv or truck and the fuel to put in it, you can afford a little grocery getter. Nobody is forcing you to go to the dealership and buy new. A $2k Civic would do the job just as well.

4. Part of the reason Venezuela has cheap ass gas is because they don't pump it full of additives and crap.

5. There are many refineries and many distributors, but fewer suppliers. Most of the gas running through our pipelines going out for consumption really only come from a handful of places. Once it reaches it destination it is divided up, additives mixed in, and pumped into a tanker to go to the stations. Chances are you could buy gas at 6 different stations around town and still receive the same base mix of gasoline.

6. Saying "thats how it is and we can't do anything about it" usually give them license to do whatever they want.

The reason diesle has gotten so bad is 3 fold.
your right its a by product,unfourtunatly that means there is less diesle than gas produced form each barrel of crude.
Its around 25-30% of one barrel ends up as diesel,that means the suply is limited by the amount of barrels refined for gas needs,as more and more trucks and cars are fueled by diesel.That means the need for gas lowers % wise.So the cost of diesel is increased by demand/lower supply.They dont refine crude just for the diesel,so there can be a diesel shortage even though there is plenty of gas.

More diesel is being used every yr,trains,heavy trucks,farm,large boats,cruis ships,naval fleet,and now many light duty trucks ans passenger cars.This adds to the demand,and the supply is limited by the amount of gas refined/needed at that time.

And refinment,at times our refineries are down,or other issues slow thier ability to produce to demands..when this happens fuel is often bought from over seas already refined,when this happens it increases the cost tremendously for gas,but especiallyt for diesel.


as far as buying a groceriy getter,why should I pay tax tittle and licence,and regestration each yr,and insurance on an additional vehicle just for misc needs.I have 2 one ton trucks I use for work already that I must register/inspect/insure already.
The additional car will cost me more than I could imagine saving in fuel/tire costs
A small car/truck would serve little purpose in our household,and as such would not be cost effective.
Large 4 door trucks serve our needs better,despite thier fuel costs


and we can do something about it
we should drill in alaska,and build new refineries
we should build more clean coal power plants
we should build new lakes in anticipation of greater water demand for the next generation
and make all the dams power generators,and use underwater turbines to create power generating
stations along rivers strategic areas with heavy elevation drops.

Nix wind IMO its not cost effective,push solar though
cheaper panels,and better battery/storage will greatly improve this industry

Though higher taxes,and regulations (cap and trade) will undoubtable mean such products used in these industries will be produced outside the U.S. and as a resullt our work force will suffer.
 
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The reason diesle has gotten so bad...

I had not considered those points. I learned something too. Thanks. "thumbsup"

as far as buying a groceriy getter,why should I pay tax tittle and licence,and regestration each yr,and insurance on an additional vehicle just for misc needs.I have 2 one ton trucks I use for work already that I must register/inspect/insure already.
The additional car will cost me more than I could imagine saving in fuel/tire costs
A small car/truck would serve little purpose in our household,and as such would not be cost effective.
Large 4 door trucks serve our needs better,despite thier fuel costs

Like I said, there is no need to run out and buy a new car to bomb around town in. A small, inexpensive used car would do fine. Where I live, registration and taxes will run you about $50 a year. However, were I still in Phoenix, I know it would cost about 4 times that amount for my Montero.

It really does depend on the situation though. Some people drive big trucks because they need them, and are smart enough to make several stops in one trip so they aren't running back and forth all the time. Some are stuck with what they've got and can't afford to get something else, and some just drive big trucks 'cause they've got little dicks.


and we can do something about it
we should drill in alaska,and build new refineries
we should build more clean coal power plants
we should build new lakes in anticipation of greater water demand for the next generation
and make all the dams power generators,and use underwater turbines to create power generating
stations along rivers strategic areas with heavy elevation drops.

Around here we get power from two dams, fed by two man-made lakes, which is great because they've also turned the rivers that run below them into trout fishing heaven, which is great because we get a shit-ton of tourists that pump up our local economy. ;-)

Nix wind IMO its not cost effective,push solar though
cheaper panels,and better battery/storage will greatly improve this industry

Though higher taxes,and regulations (cap and trade) will undoubtable mean such products used in these industries will be produced outside the U.S. and as a resullt our work force will suffer.

Wind isn't terribly efficient yet. But its better than nothing.

Solar truly would be the best way to go, but panels are still lacking in efficiency and a reasonable price.
 
However, Nucular energy is right here right now. All the well and good to develop other technologies, however we must incorporate what is available now to get us to the future and not simply wait out other technologies.

I am always for newer and better, I just can't stand people not moving forward because of all the "what ifs" and "one we'll have this" kind of procrastination. When stuck where you are you always have to work in the framework of what you have now and not dream about what may be.
























and yes, I misspelled nuclear on purpose! :ror:
 
Shhhh.....dont talk like that....now everyone has visions of the Incredible Hulk and Spiderman in their heads....:ror:

True, but chances are we could also get a She-Hulk...

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I've never even seen an exxon or mobil station in Utah, or any other state I have been to. Don't think they will miss my business.
There's a couple here in Utah and I see their pumps almost always full I either go to truck stops or Maverik for gas. Mobil or exxon hasn't seen my money in almost 3 years. And I agree with this message if people would boycott those 2 companies then they wont have a choice but to drop their prices.:flipoff:
 
Looks like Saudi Arabia is catching democracy now. We are so fawked....

Democracy in Saudi? :ror:

Maybe for the Men, but you can be guaranteed their women will be exempt from participating in their "defeauxcracy". "thumbsup"

When Muslim Countries stop treating there women as less than dogs I will pay attention, until then..............
 
2. The ones who really should be pissed about fuel prices are those that buy diesel, which is essentially a by-product of the gasoline refining process.

Actually diesel and jet fuels create gasoline products as a by-product, sadly we've began using more gas than the other industries use their fuels and our prices have steadily risen as the world has taken over the American idea of everyone needs 1.5 cars to be happy. Originally the low gas prices were from lower demand and larger supply levels. Now we are tipping the scales.

It also doesn't help the Crude Oil is bought based on USD, which right now is a failing economy, which means even slight adjustments from the 90's we'd see a tiny spike now become large because of the initial spike and how poorly the USD is doing on the global markets.

4. Part of the reason Venezuela has cheap ass gas is because they don't pump it full of additives and crap.

Very true...though our EPA also gives us less Octane as well. Most Euro countries and oil producing companies see 89-91 as standard and up to 98 octane in the premium grades. My car would love some 98 octane to get more timing/boost and therefore more power.

We have the oil here but not the capacity to refine it. We havent built a new refinery since the 70s. Dont forget to thank the epa when your getting raped at the pump.

The refinerys refine the current OPEC oil without issue. The reason, sole reason the US hates pumping their own, is because "let's exhaust their natural resources and leave ours until we need it". Which really is the RIGHT way to do it on a resource that seems to have an end date as we use more than can be created (creating crude takes a long ass time).

Back in the '80s several guys invented 100 MPG carburetors. Guess what happened to the technology? After whacking them Big Oil bought the designs and shelved them. The problem is not just wasteful people, rather science/technology is opposed to doing good for the sake of good. $$$$$

Stop spreading myths!:
http://www.rexresearch.com/auto2/100mpg.htm
http://www.mikebrownsolutions.com/fish3.htm
http://www.snopes.com/autos/business/carburetor.asp

Why do people still talk about a carb myth that fixes everything when they don't understand combustion engines? You still need a specific gas/air ratio to properly work...no matter what you do to a carb or injection, the end fact is current combustion designs are inefficient beasts.
 
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