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"Why I don't go to comps".....not looking for comp guy replies....

first of all i grew up in houston....hehe...howdy......and second i honestly dont know if the club i like and or deal with does that......ill have to ask or suggest it....gravebane you hearing this?
 
It also sounds like you guys run a cumulative scoring system (where your score from that day is what is written down on your sheet). Our club switched away from that when we realized that people could easily run away with the scores. Now we assign a point value for each place (1st gets 15 pts, 2nd gets 13 pts, 3rd gets 12 pts, 4th gets 11 pts, etc.). This helps keep the scores closer (and still gives the guy who gets 1st a bonus for being top dog that day) and doesn't allow someone to run away from the pack as easily. We also switched because we realized that not all comps were equal (different locations were harder and some even had more courses than others) which meant that a competitor could pick and choose which comps to miss and drop. The new system has made for a more level playing field and has given our club some flexibility with our comps. It also keeps all of the competitors on their toes which will only make them better drivers.
 
I'm pretty sure we drop some scores, I've not been around long enough to know for sure but I did hear people talking about dropping scores at the last comp. I'm not sure if its the worst ones or the best and the worse or what.

and yea our scoring is based on the scorse for each course, 3 courses per comp. not being there results in +150 points for the day (50 per course) showing up and pointing out (max 40 points) allows you to knock that down to 40 per course - progress and scale points. scale points alone put me 50-60 points farther away each comp. that adds up quick so a point system like yours may help even things out alittle but still allow scale points to be worth while as they effect the outcome of each comp but not such a large effect thruout the season.

I was wrong about being 1000 points behind for the overall season though. the leader is just under -1000 I'm over +1000 lol but thats only cause I got dns for the entire spring and summer seasons. but for the fall season I'm sitting at +4 with the leader at -254. now we had one more comp thats not on the points list yet, and I did well and I'm pretty sure I got myself into the negatives (which is a win for me) but I'm pretty sure my -20-30 points goes up against -100+ from the big dogs lol.
 
Well, I wasnt really talking about a scale comp....so I am not sure how "scale points" would factor into that. I was only giving info on how we run our comp truck comps. I run scale, but it's mostly for fun. I occasionally compete in comps with my scaler, but I'm never really interested in the scores.
 
Gravebane525 said:
thats one of the reasons I have no illusions that I will "win" any time soon. I can not commit to an entire season, so I just have fun at the ones I do make. I'm only sumin like 1000 points behind first place this season! lol
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;) Grave you also have to realize that you have only been out to several comps out of 14 total for the season. The guys like myself that have done well have been at every scale comp this season and have been driving their scale rigs since 2010 and have crazy amounts of scale points. When I started I was just like you I had a stock rig and slowly started to improve it after breaking something at every comp the first year.:roll: I have been very impressed with your scale rig and the driving you have done. With anything it takes time, patience, practice and $$. Unless someone is very well off they can't afford to build up a good rig, scale or comp in one season.
 
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thats pretty much how I am with my scores. I want to stay negative (which ain't that hard). put pretty much your scale points get divided in half and then taken off your score, on every course. I have 24 points so -12, the people who've been doing this awhile have 60 or so, so -30. they get taken off of every course, and every comp is 3 courses so its thats -90 every comp and 12 comps a year. thats 1080 by the end of the season, where my scale points are 432 per season, a perfect run every course at every comp all season would only be 720 points lol.

there has been talk about limiting the amount of scale points you get the bonus for, but I don;t like the idea. everyone will build they rig up based off the best performance to reach that max point and you will lose alot of what makes scale so fun (all the different ways people customize they rigs). but with your point system, the scale points would help on each course, but they wouldn't pileup thru out the year.

Jslick said:
;) Grave you also have to realize that you have only been out to several comps out of 14 total for the season. The guys like myself that have done well have been at every scale comp this season and have been driving their scale rigs since 2010 and have crazy amounts of scale points. When I started I was just like you I had a stock rig and slowly started to improve it after breaking something at every comp the first year.:roll: I have been very impressed with your scale rig and the driving you have done. With anything it takes time, patience, practice and $$. Unless someone is very well off they can't afford to build up a good rig, scale or comp in one season.
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lol I did point that out in one of my posts. out of the 10 on the record I been to 2 lol. I've been really impressed with my rig and driving too and have been having a blast with the scale comps. I wasn't meaning to come off like I was talking bad about being so far behind, just trying to explain why I'm not worried about the points so much lol.
 
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Gravebane525 said:
I'm pretty sure we drop some scores, I've not been around long enough to know for sure but I did hear people talking about dropping scores at the last comp. I'm not sure if its the worst ones or the best and the worse or what.

and yea our scoring is based on the scorse for each course, 3 courses per comp. not being there results in +150 points for the day (50 per course) showing up and pointing out (max 40 points) allows you to knock that down to 40 per course - progress and scale points. scale points alone put me 50-60 points farther away each comp. that adds up quick so a point system like yours may help even things out alittle but still allow scale points to be worth while as they effect the outcome of each comp but not such a large effect thruout the season.

I was wrong about being 1000 points behind for the overall season though. the leader is just under -1000 I'm over +1000 lol but thats only cause I got dns for the entire spring and summer seasons. but for the fall season I'm sitting at +4 with the leader at -254. now we had one more comp thats not on the points list yet, and I did well and I'm pretty sure I got myself into the negatives (which is a win for me) but I'm pretty sure my -20-30 points goes up against -100+ from the big dogs lol.
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With the club we drop two comps in scale and one in comp crawlers for the season. Not everyone can attend every comp. That is why we built in the drops. Since I am the president of the club I make it my responsibility to attend scale and comp crawler comps., however by this time in the season my wife has just about had it with me.:roll: All I want to do is drive the best I can and have fun doing it."thumbsup"

I like the idea of using the scale points in the comp then giving designated points based on place like JeremyH said: (1st gets 15 pts, 2nd gets 13 pts, 3rd gets 12 pts, 4th gets 11 pts, etc.). It will make the overall closer but the guys that have MAD scale points will continue to dominate the comps based on them.
 
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give me a few years and I may be giving yall a run for your money lol. for now, its a gate by gate thing. I don't really look past trying to get thru the next gate. if I can crawl thru a gate someone else needed to winch up, I get excited, if I find a different way to make it thru a hard gate. if I can get thru with less penalties or in less time, is stuff like that that makes me get that adrenalin rush that winning may give. the final scores don't matter to me because I'm not at that level yet and I'm ok with that.
 
Gravebane525 said:
give me a few years and I may be giving yall a run for your money lol. for now, its a gate by gate thing. I don't really look past trying to get thru the next gate. if I can crawl thru a gate someone else needed to winch up, I get excited, if I find a different way to make it thru a hard gate. if I can get thru with less penalties or in less time, is stuff like that that makes me get that adrenalin rush that winning may give. the final scores don't matter to me because I'm not at that level yet and I'm ok with that.
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Counting on it."thumbsup"
 
Hello, I have been to only 3 comps and I only have a Super.
The first comp I went to I was the only Super that showed up. Sure I got a prize for showing up but I sat around for 3 hours with my 4 year old daughter inside a hobby shop so I could run the course. The truck never got to the second gate due to wiring problems but hey I gained some experience. Not much.
The next comp I went to was at Motorama Harrisburg PA. It was huge pain as the event folks would not let us unload near the comp area and had to walk the whole complex dragging tables and plastic tubs and tools. The course was great. The judges were awesome. The experience was a whole day of watching R/C Crawling which is almost as much fun as driving. Again I waited for 10 hours to drive on the course. 14 people were in the Super class I think that year. I was second to last only because someone trashed their rig and could not make the last course. I was really excited about not being last. That was until I talked with another super driver that year from Ohio. He said this was his last comp. I was new and had no idea who was who so he pointed out the few folks with corporate backing. Said that 3 out of the top 5 were from California and worked in the R/C industry. My only thought was ok so it is like Formula 1 Money wins.
The second year I went to Motorama I placed the same even though I had spent another $200 on new electronics and beefed up parts. There was much less conversation and many many more 1.9 & 2.2 drivers. I waited even longer that year to drive on the course. Driver meeting at 8AM I had to drive at 8PM and make it back the next morning to meet at 8AM again. It was well organized and the action was fast but I think over 120 2.2 rigs showed up. Eveyone was friendly but even after my second time at the event I only knew one person by name. Again transport of equipment and access to the building was a long painfilled walk.
It makes me sad to have spent 4 years off and on and $100's building this rig just to have it sit and look cool on a build table. Local clubs rarely run Super Class. No one is building Super Class and I refuse to make my rig smaller or less capable just to run against more $$$ and off the shelf kits. Home made MOA with Clod axils. I am looking for Super comps and drivers that can help me get better at the driving instead of just building all the time but I don't have the time to drive 2 hours away only to sit for 12 hours to drive a course.
There are less of us and maybe it is old school or to expensive to maintain but Super is all I will run. I just need to find people to do it with.
I don't even care if they have a Formula 1 all new parts truck. It is about the competition of you, your truck and the rocks but it sure would be nice to find someone that agrees and can drive.
Super is not as expensive as eveyone thinks either. $24 for the polycarb that is my frame. $30 for the 1/2" rod that is my 4 link. Clod axils I got at a yard sale for $25.
Mostly it is all time or money. One or the other.
Right now I am out of both.
 
Digger94 said:
There are less of us and maybe it is old school or to expensive to maintain but Super is all I will run. I just need to find people to do it with.
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Super is a niche class. It takes a LOT of practice with the truck and radio to become proficient....even more than the smaller trucks. At the next local comp you go to, try letting a buddy drive your truck. They'll love it and soon you'll have another competitor..."thumbsup"
 
JeremyH said:
Super is a niche class. It takes a LOT of practice with the truck and radio to become proficient....even more than the smaller trucks. At the next local comp you go to, try letting a buddy drive your truck. They'll love it and soon you'll have another competitor..."thumbsup"
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You can say that again... :oops:
 
ROWDY RACING said:
You can say that again... :oops:
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Super is a niche class. It takes a LOT of practice with the truck and radio to become proficient....even more than the smaller trucks. At the next local comp you go to, try letting a buddy drive your truck. They'll love it and soon you'll have another competitor..."thumbsup"
 
JeremyH said:
Super is a niche class. It takes a LOT of practice with the truck and radio to become proficient....even more than the smaller trucks. At the next local comp you go to, try letting a buddy drive your truck. They'll love it and soon you'll have another competitor..."thumbsup"
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Your so predictable. :ror:
 
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