this sums it up.
if you wanna thrash a crawler, it will break. sounds like you would be better off with a slash if you're kicks come from seeing how fast it will go and doing donuts and jumping it.
The Wraiths not a crawler, it's a racer remember?
my RTR scx-10 has not BROKEN 1 thing in 4 months. (probably 50 hours of run time) but the difference is in the way i drive my rig.
Nope Honcho's are indestructible in comparison, I couldn't break one of them either, I tried. That's sorta why I bought the Wraith, I liked the Honcho so much and the Wraith was supposed to be bigger, faster, stronger, and just more badass.
if you wanna break less things, get a 55t motor and a 15tooth pinion. it will go so slow that you can plow a wall at full speed and nothing will break lol. but the problem with a slow setup is you wont be able to jump it or do donuts anymore.. sorry.
I've had nosebleeds faster than a 55T, not fun for me personally. I have several rock sections in my yard that require leap-a-bility to clear gaps... maybe a 35T on 3 or 4S
hope you enjoy the rig though.
I do now, and mine has survived some horrible things after operation beefcake. I hope some of you watch my videos and realize it will do more than just drive around the yard.
Ok, from the tone of your replies I see that my post was a bit too much in criticism.
I beg your pardon if you felt offended by my post. I've no intention to start a flame war.
No, no offense, it was my attempt at humor, I admit I might have been being an ass. I just don't understand how a whole community can be so "ok" with paying good money for mediocre equipment. As long as people just roll over and like it, the manufactures are just gonna keep boxing up cheaper and cheaper crap. If Ford sold me a truck that burnt up 3 motors in the first 10 days, and also burned up for 50% of the purchasers there'd be riots in Detroit. When you buy an RTR I agree it is supposed to suck, it should be slow, and lack all the cool bits. You should be able to put a pack in it and hand it to your 9yr old nephew and watch him ram the slow ass rtr off your brothers nice wood trim and not break. However the Wraith is not geared or motored to be slow, it has terrible odds of survival OTB, which goes back to my previous post... 27T, 16/87, open frt diff... now it's slow and if the screws don't fall out of the knuckles reasonably durable.
I see your driving skill in that video, but the thing I'm trying to say is that in all the videos with Wraiths making huge jumps and literally flying over obstacles, it's clear that the RC model does things that 1:1 rigs cannot.
Think about jumping down the bank in the wood in the opening of the video with an 1:1, with everything scaled up, it's like jumping down from the roof of a 4 storey building and landing on the nose! What real rig would survive? I think not even an X-bike!
Clearly we have very different points of view, you like all-out-performance, when I prefer a scaled performance. Just personal taste, there's no right or wrong.
But neither KoH rigs jumps that high. Neither Icelandic FOFF do. Neither the guys off the "Crawling is for babies" video (blue one is Tim Cameron, right?)
For the record mine with lighter wheels and flipped knuckles did not break:mrgreen:, what's impressive is that it broke the little aluminum bit and not a tie rod (Vanquish Ti), or servo mount (stock), servo (7955) or anything else "thumbsup"
Tim has a new buggy but it's not blue, he may have been driving the blue one though... I think that's Screaming Blue. Idk now there's lots of crazy assholes with pockets full of cash to burn... coleworx is pumping out buggies. Wish it was this crazy asshole
You probably didn't see this... Tanner has physics in a headlock, he
drops 10 stories down 90 feet of orange track and soars 332 feet through the air.
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As for the locked axles behaviour at high speed, again the scaled speed of Baja of Koh rigs is much slower than our RC rockets.
Mine does like 18mph on 3S, thats only like 180 in real life... come on that's close ;-)
And even Baja and Koh don't steer that hard at full speed.
The behaviour of a locked front axle at speed is never so nice and predictable.
Drivers that like to go fast, very often use selectable lockers at front (some at rears too) and run open at speed, but that's an option that in RC isn't widely used. Only Venom from what I know has it.
Ok this part is a little offensive, so you must think I go 18mph up my street then crank the wheel all the way and wonder why it rolls over? See you must think I'm some sort of drooling, helmet wearing, birth defect.
FYI the river carnage video Ol Blue has and open front diff and went everywhere the General V went, next video it will have 500,000wt diff lock, we'll see then...
Also I think it handles great, even geared 22/87 on 3S to clear the cross-over at the track 25-30 mph?, it was still very manageable at high speeds as well as in the corners. It was locked at the track, the only time it really sucked was coming into and trying to accelerate out of the hairpin, sometimes it'd drift perfect though, most of the time it'd just traction roll if you jumped on the gas, I want to try the HR sways for that little problem.
Very well put. I built a kit, and this is how I enjoy it, and it has worked out so far.
EDIT TO ADD: That "crawling is for babies" video was beyond dumb. I'm all about fast cars/trucks/bikes, and putting to much power in a given application just for the hell of it, but really, they just had too much wheel speed. All they did was skid all over the place at WOT. Every once in a while they would let off the gas and regain some traction, and then started moving up the hill again as if by magic. :roll::roll::roll:
So your advice is basically to drive like my grandma and tell myself I'm having a good time? I bet with a geared down 35T you can probably break driveshafts on command, after about the 3rd one in day it'd have to visit the quarter pipe for punishment :twisted:
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I enjoy seeing the impossible happen, it makes me smile. If I had unlimited budget I'd build a monster truck and go on tour with Digger. The way I see it, even if you broke it in half, that'd be like $36... so what? I'm not pissed about the plastic parts I've broke except for the knuckle, the screw fell out and it broke, 2 days old.
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I'm pissed that out of the box it eats motors, a little pissed the screws fall out of the axles like it's they're job. And also a little pissed about the "brown outs". The marketing was misleading and the gearing was unbelievable. We have a dated, proven weak locker design that puts form over function and a basic 1/10 scale drivetrain in a RC model that easily weighs 8lbs, which is heavier than most 1/8 scales. The Wraith really needs 1/8th scale diffs, with an open 4 spider as an option. My new problem is it'll break one or more of the 4 little screws that hold the ring gear on (43/13 HD gears, stock case, HD locker, epoxy), then the mesh is jacked and I take it apart and rebuild it. There was nothing left to break so something new and creative popped up. That's why I'm playing with the open... my Scorpion came with spare spider gears how cool is that? I also like the modded stock driveshafts as they break long before the next links in the chain.
Great mudding vid!! None of that lame driving through dirty water stuff, that was propper mud "thumbsup" Time to clean up :mrgreen:
What are the dimensions of your mud box?
Thanks dude! "thumbsup" 8ft x 20"wide x14" high, I board vacant houses so I have alot of scrap like this, that's how I ended up with a box full of mud and the original part of the TTC course. To do over I'd build a significant frame that allows the sides to angle out, more bank than wall. "The box" as it's known has 2x4 reinforcements inside that serve as obstacles under the mud, a whole lot of Thompson's and I'd guess weighs in the 5-600pound range full of water. It's proof of the effectiveness of wood glue. Did I mention I had to treat it for mosquitoes? :roll:
Just because at dinner I have a helmet and a spork doesn't mean I can't pilot and RC car, I'm like rainman with a Futaba
