Tgreer
RCC Addict
Re: 2014 Nationals & Season Class Information
My wheels on page 4, legal, not legal???
My wheels on page 4, legal, not legal???
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Rules, Issues and Public Concerns
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krawlfreak
I wanna be Dave
Re: 2014 Nationals & Season Class Information
I believe the general R/C consensus is no.
I believe the general R/C consensus is no.
ROWDY RACING
I wanna be Dave
Re: 2014 Nationals & Season Class Information
According to the wheel specs in the rules I'd say no. How do those wheels differ from plate comp wheels other than all the screws?
According to the wheel specs in the rules I'd say no. How do those wheels differ from plate comp wheels other than all the screws?
ROWDY RACING
I wanna be Dave
Tgreer
RCC Addict
Re: 2014 Nationals & Season Class Information
Because they replicate a beadlock and have the scale apperance. These are way more scale than stock plastic wheels. Plus your not gaining any advantage weight wise over a stock wheel. I'm honestly shocked you would turn someone away from running these at nationals! So as of right now a glue on 1.9 plastic walker even wheel is ok but this extremely scale wheel is not????:shock:
I totally understand your argument with a regular comp stile wheel that's got the apperance that it floats on air and has no reflection of a real wheel, but come on! This is just as scale looking or more than ANY of the stock wheels for rigs accepted in this class!
Because they replicate a beadlock and have the scale apperance. These are way more scale than stock plastic wheels. Plus your not gaining any advantage weight wise over a stock wheel. I'm honestly shocked you would turn someone away from running these at nationals! So as of right now a glue on 1.9 plastic walker even wheel is ok but this extremely scale wheel is not????:shock:
I totally understand your argument with a regular comp stile wheel that's got the apperance that it floats on air and has no reflection of a real wheel, but come on! This is just as scale looking or more than ANY of the stock wheels for rigs accepted in this class!
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krawlfreak
I wanna be Dave
Re: 2014 Nationals & Season Class Information
it boils down to "it's a plate style wheel" which is not allowed.
i myself have a few that would look good and possibly scale but it is not in the intent of the class.
sorry...
it boils down to "it's a plate style wheel" which is not allowed.
i myself have a few that would look good and possibly scale but it is not in the intent of the class.
sorry...
Tgreer
RCC Addict
Re: 2014 Nationals & Season Class Information
The "INTENT" of this class is to follow this mission statement!
Trail Competition Class
Mission Statement
The purpose of this Trail Competition Class is to blend Scale appearance, Stock characteristics, and Competition Performance into a class that can be enjoyed and competitive with a variety of widely accessible vehicles. The intent is for these vehicles to be able to compete in a traditional comp crawling setting on courses suitable for the specs of the vehicles. With minor changes, these vehicles could be made to compete at G6, Ultra4, SORRCA and other already popular type events.
Its our hope to have the trucks used in this class maintain original design characteristics while still allowing for modifications that increase durability and overall enjoyment.
To help increase participation at the local level the USRCCA encourages local clubs to adopt a "Run what you brung" policy, and that only drivers wanting to move on to regional and national level events need to worry about stricter class specifications.
The USRCCA reserves the right to add any stock specification or measurement to class requirements it deems necessary to maintain the competitive balance of the class.
You tell me where in the mission statement that this wheel does not fit with flying colors!!!!
I can run this wheel no problem in ultra4, G6, or in SORRCA! But you guys are going to tell me that it will not work in what is suppose to be a RWYB type class!
First line of the mission statement:
The purpose of this Trail Competition Class is to blend Scale appearance, Stock characteristics, and Competition Performance into a class that can be enjoyed and competitive with a variety of widely accessible vehicles.
That's excactly what this wheel is a blend of scale appearance, stock characteristics, and competition performance!
I'm just asking you guys to rethink the last line of the wheels rule a little!
We have worked really hard to make this wheel with the specific intent to run as a scale style wheel, but have the convenience of pulling them apart easily when you run them through water or mud. These were also designed to have the strength to hold there own when being bashed around by a 12pound rig! This wheel was never designed to run on any 2.2pro or sporty type rigs!
The "INTENT" of this class is to follow this mission statement!
Trail Competition Class
Mission Statement
The purpose of this Trail Competition Class is to blend Scale appearance, Stock characteristics, and Competition Performance into a class that can be enjoyed and competitive with a variety of widely accessible vehicles. The intent is for these vehicles to be able to compete in a traditional comp crawling setting on courses suitable for the specs of the vehicles. With minor changes, these vehicles could be made to compete at G6, Ultra4, SORRCA and other already popular type events.
Its our hope to have the trucks used in this class maintain original design characteristics while still allowing for modifications that increase durability and overall enjoyment.
To help increase participation at the local level the USRCCA encourages local clubs to adopt a "Run what you brung" policy, and that only drivers wanting to move on to regional and national level events need to worry about stricter class specifications.
The USRCCA reserves the right to add any stock specification or measurement to class requirements it deems necessary to maintain the competitive balance of the class.
You tell me where in the mission statement that this wheel does not fit with flying colors!!!!
I can run this wheel no problem in ultra4, G6, or in SORRCA! But you guys are going to tell me that it will not work in what is suppose to be a RWYB type class!
First line of the mission statement:
The purpose of this Trail Competition Class is to blend Scale appearance, Stock characteristics, and Competition Performance into a class that can be enjoyed and competitive with a variety of widely accessible vehicles.
That's excactly what this wheel is a blend of scale appearance, stock characteristics, and competition performance!
I'm just asking you guys to rethink the last line of the wheels rule a little!
We have worked really hard to make this wheel with the specific intent to run as a scale style wheel, but have the convenience of pulling them apart easily when you run them through water or mud. These were also designed to have the strength to hold there own when being bashed around by a 12pound rig! This wheel was never designed to run on any 2.2pro or sporty type rigs!
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ROWDY RACING
I wanna be Dave
Re: 2014 Nationals & Season Class Information
You really need to chill with all the !!!!!!!!, we went through this last time you wanted something that was not in the rules.
Your wheels are no more scale than the YTC dubs, we can't use these either.
You can still run your wheels in all the classes you designed them for, just not this one.
You really need to chill with all the !!!!!!!!, we went through this last time you wanted something that was not in the rules.
Your wheels are no more scale than the YTC dubs, we can't use these either.
You can still run your wheels in all the classes you designed them for, just not this one.
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Tgreer
RCC Addict
Re: 2014 Nationals & Season Class Information
That wheel does not even come close to anything scale, are you sure you have your glasses on.:lmao:
I'm not getting worked up, I'm just trying to help some venders. I seem to recall in the last wheel discussion I had with you guys I was shot down promptly because it hurt the venders, so now you have turned 180*. I will chill with the !!!!!!!, I'm not as worked up as I appearently appear"thumbsup"
Again, my wheel completely fits in the mission statement of this class.
Ok, I've made my point and I will leave it at that. Just remember along with bringing new faces to this wonderful sport, you also don't want to drive out all our wonderful venders either. Buy opening up and allowing a very scale replicated plate style wheel, this allows any vender to build a wheel for this class. All you have to do is give the wheel some design restrictions for the vender to follow.
That wheel does not even come close to anything scale, are you sure you have your glasses on.:lmao:
I'm not getting worked up, I'm just trying to help some venders. I seem to recall in the last wheel discussion I had with you guys I was shot down promptly because it hurt the venders, so now you have turned 180*. I will chill with the !!!!!!!, I'm not as worked up as I appearently appear"thumbsup"
Again, my wheel completely fits in the mission statement of this class.
Ok, I've made my point and I will leave it at that. Just remember along with bringing new faces to this wonderful sport, you also don't want to drive out all our wonderful venders either. Buy opening up and allowing a very scale replicated plate style wheel, this allows any vender to build a wheel for this class. All you have to do is give the wheel some design restrictions for the vender to follow.
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ROWDY RACING
I wanna be Dave
Re: 2014 Nationals & Season Class Information
I don't want to argue with you about whose wheel looks like what, neither are aloud in the rules.
Again this is not a strict scale class, it's a scalish blend.
Maybe this class can give all of those SLW's and DH's somewhere to be used instead of collecting dust on shelves.
I don't want to argue with you about whose wheel looks like what, neither are aloud in the rules.
Again this is not a strict scale class, it's a scalish blend.
Maybe this class can give all of those SLW's and DH's somewhere to be used instead of collecting dust on shelves.
ROWDY RACING
I wanna be Dave
Re: 2014 Nationals & Season Class Information
We have, they are in the rules package.
This won't shut out vendors, it just gives them new parameters to work in.
We have, they are in the rules package.
This won't shut out vendors, it just gives them new parameters to work in.
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Tgreer
RCC Addict
Re: 2014 Nationals & Season Class Information
Just so I'm completly clear this is "leagel" by your rules
And this is "NOT leagel"
GOT IT........... I will get my wraith changed over right away..........:shock::lmao:
Just so I'm completly clear this is "leagel" by your rules
And this is "NOT leagel"
GOT IT........... I will get my wraith changed over right away..........:shock::lmao:
JeremyH
I wanna be Dave
Re: 2014 Nationals & Season Class Information
It's not really about the looks, more about the construction. The RC didn't want wheels with spacers and an open inner design. While your wheels look very cool, they don't fit these rules. If you don't want to build your truck within the rules, you don't have to, but you wont be allowed to run in this class.
It's not really about the looks, more about the construction. The RC didn't want wheels with spacers and an open inner design. While your wheels look very cool, they don't fit these rules. If you don't want to build your truck within the rules, you don't have to, but you wont be allowed to run in this class.
ROWDY RACING
I wanna be Dave
Re: 2014 Nationals & Season Class Information
I bet those plastic ones are a lot cheaper, keeping cost down is also a goal of this class.
Just so I'm completly clear this is "leagel" by your rules
And this is "NOT leagel"
GOT IT........... I will get my wraith changed over right away..........:shock::lmao:
I bet those plastic ones are a lot cheaper, keeping cost down is also a goal of this class.
Tgreer
RCC Addict
Re: 2014 Nationals & Season Class Information
I bet my wheels are way cheaper than your non scale looking DH or SLW wheels you suggested!"thumbsup"
"It's not really about the looks, more about the construction. The RC didn't want wheels with spacers and an open inner design. While your wheels look very cool, they don't fit these rules. If you don't want to build your truck within the rules, you don't have to, but you wont be allowed to run in this class."
IMO that's not what the mission statement says.
I bet my wheels are way cheaper than your non scale looking DH or SLW wheels you suggested!"thumbsup"
"It's not really about the looks, more about the construction. The RC didn't want wheels with spacers and an open inner design. While your wheels look very cool, they don't fit these rules. If you don't want to build your truck within the rules, you don't have to, but you wont be allowed to run in this class."
IMO that's not what the mission statement says.
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ROWDY RACING
I wanna be Dave
Re: 2014 Nationals & Season Class Information
This is NOT a scale class.
There are piles of slw and dh wheels lying around that can be bought used for cheap and used by people that have no other use for them.
Nothing we can say will please you so lets just agree to disagree that your wheels are not legal in this class at this time.
The mission statement is just that a statement, the rules are to be followed.
This is NOT a scale class.
There are piles of slw and dh wheels lying around that can be bought used for cheap and used by people that have no other use for them.
Nothing we can say will please you so lets just agree to disagree that your wheels are not legal in this class at this time.
The mission statement is just that a statement, the rules are to be followed.
Tgreer
RCC Addict
Re: 2014 Nationals & Season Class Information
No problem!
It's your show Rowdy run it however you like.
No problem!
It's your show Rowdy run it however you like.
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EvilTwin v2
I wanna be Dave
Re: 2014 Nationals & Season Class Information
The first thing anybody trying to come up with a set of rules has to realize is that you can't please everybody all the time.
In order to allow this wheel, yet not one that looks a little less scale, you'd need a half page description just for wheels. Then where would it end? With 50 pages of rules for each class? If the rules aren't as simple and concise as possible, far more people will be confused by them and it'll cause far more problems.
Sorry your wheels, that were developed before you even knew about this class, aren't going to be legal. There are going to be many more people with items or trucks that don't quite fit. That's just a problem you run into with this sort of thing. You have to draw a line somewhere, though, and in this case, it's No TVP style wheels.
The first thing anybody trying to come up with a set of rules has to realize is that you can't please everybody all the time.
In order to allow this wheel, yet not one that looks a little less scale, you'd need a half page description just for wheels. Then where would it end? With 50 pages of rules for each class? If the rules aren't as simple and concise as possible, far more people will be confused by them and it'll cause far more problems.
Sorry your wheels, that were developed before you even knew about this class, aren't going to be legal. There are going to be many more people with items or trucks that don't quite fit. That's just a problem you run into with this sort of thing. You have to draw a line somewhere, though, and in this case, it's No TVP style wheels.
ROWDY RACING
I wanna be Dave
Re: 2014 Nationals & Season Class Information
It's not my show at all, it's the USRCCA's show, I'm not the only committee member. "thumbsup"
It's not my show at all, it's the USRCCA's show, I'm not the only committee member. "thumbsup"
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