EGRESSor
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say no to Bless if it is not a real tuber "thumbsup" :ror:
i dont really see a need of changing the rules
the most bodies fit the body rules
and the size of the bodyless works fine for me:mrgreen:
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Petition for unified body/bodiless measurements
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say no to Bless if it is not a real tuber "thumbsup" :ror:
i dont really see a need of changing the rules
the most bodies fit the body rules
and the size of the bodyless works fine for me:mrgreen:
MR.VERTICAL
I wanna be Dave
TURBOFEST
I wanna be Dave
This just feels like it's setting up to be yet another example of the crawling community shooting itself in the foot. :roll:
Voted No.....
Voted No.....
It seems like so many people are making the possibility of rules changing way farther then it needs to be. We're not voting to send a nuke to china, so get off your high horses and talk like men, not high school girls. Passion and respect should both we demonstrated here. We all comp together and there's no need to piss everyone off.
Leave the bodiless rules the same and don't change them. Change the bodied rules so that if one wanted to,(I stress wanted to) they could meet the height, width and length requirements as those running bodiless so neither are seemed as advantage or disadvantage. This means no one has to change a thing, if they want to now make there body smaller they grab a pair of scissors.
These are not scalers, they don't look scale and havent looked scale since pre TLT days. Yes, some bodiless rigs look realistic and some look like a moon threw up wheels. The scalers look this way to.
People's mentality will bring them to which ever side of the hobby they enjoy most regardless of what 90% of us do.
There is no need to change every rule so everyone can go out and buy/build new rigs. With my rule statement above I still won't run a body and still don't see a body being an advantage, it does give those who want to run one a better shot at fitting through the same areas as my bodiless rig does, and as nabil stated, even if the rules change he would rather have a slightly larger better looking body then a hacked up one. This is why not drastically changing the rule allows people to still build the rig they want to build.
Leave the bodiless rules the same and don't change them. Change the bodied rules so that if one wanted to,(I stress wanted to) they could meet the height, width and length requirements as those running bodiless so neither are seemed as advantage or disadvantage. This means no one has to change a thing, if they want to now make there body smaller they grab a pair of scissors.
These are not scalers, they don't look scale and havent looked scale since pre TLT days. Yes, some bodiless rigs look realistic and some look like a moon threw up wheels. The scalers look this way to.
People's mentality will bring them to which ever side of the hobby they enjoy most regardless of what 90% of us do.
There is no need to change every rule so everyone can go out and buy/build new rigs. With my rule statement above I still won't run a body and still don't see a body being an advantage, it does give those who want to run one a better shot at fitting through the same areas as my bodiless rig does, and as nabil stated, even if the rules change he would rather have a slightly larger better looking body then a hacked up one. This is why not drastically changing the rule allows people to still build the rig they want to build.
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Then vote.
To be clear, I voted "NO"
And for those who keep arguing that these are not "scale rigs" & that they are "full blown comp" rigs...
Why do the manufacutrer of products like the XR10 describe them as being a...
"1/10 scale Competition Rock Crawler "
And the description on the SCX10 says something like...
"1/10th scale Scale Rock Crawler"
Go figure that one out.
And I'm not just talking about the description of the RCC sub-forums. I'm talking the actual descriptions as if you were Togo to Stormer it'll Tower Hobbies.
When it comes to comp rigs, 1/10th scale referee to a generic general size. When it comes to a scale truck, scale refers to scaled down specific realism.
And for those who keep arguing that these are not "scale rigs" & that they are "full blown comp" rigs...
Why do the manufacutrer of products like the XR10 describe them as being a...
"1/10 scale Competition Rock Crawler "
And the description on the SCX10 says something like...
"1/10th scale Scale Rock Crawler"
Go figure that one out.
And I'm not just talking about the description of the RCC sub-forums. I'm talking the actual descriptions as if you were Togo to Stormer it'll Tower Hobbies.
When it comes to comp rigs, 1/10th scale referee to a generic general size. When it comes to a scale truck, scale refers to scaled down specific realism.
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krawlfreak
I wanna be Dave
fixed it for ya"thumbsup"
C*H*U*D
No idea what I'm doing
I'm still undecided on this so I haven't voted yet.
One issue I see with them being too similar is how trends evolve. Right now we really have just two categories being run in 2.2p...body and bodiless. If we bring them closer together, I see a possibility of them merging into one. Like I've said before, I really liked the look of Brian's truck. But if body and bodiless trucks are merged, will everyone start migrating to that look? There is talk that a unified size would open things up, but will we all be driving the same truck instead?
Right now people have their own perceived advantages of one over the other. If they are brought together, I think truck design will naturally gravitate towards the platform with the real advantage, and the other will be lost...or they are both lost and an entirely new truck emerges. Either way, I see only one truck style in the future...not the variety there is now. I'm not sure if that's what people mean though when they say it will "Open things up".
I also can't vote no, because I'm not positive it isn't a good idea. I haven't seen a good enough argument yet saying it's a bad idea. I just don't want to see a knee-jerk reaction taken by the rules committee based on a public opinion poll. I think it's great to hear everyone's ideas, but they should be discussed and not just taken into law.
One thing I would like to see though, is a much better job done on defining exactly what key points in the rules mean. I hate these "interpretation" issues where we have to argue what was meant.
One issue I see with them being too similar is how trends evolve. Right now we really have just two categories being run in 2.2p...body and bodiless. If we bring them closer together, I see a possibility of them merging into one. Like I've said before, I really liked the look of Brian's truck. But if body and bodiless trucks are merged, will everyone start migrating to that look? There is talk that a unified size would open things up, but will we all be driving the same truck instead?
Right now people have their own perceived advantages of one over the other. If they are brought together, I think truck design will naturally gravitate towards the platform with the real advantage, and the other will be lost...or they are both lost and an entirely new truck emerges. Either way, I see only one truck style in the future...not the variety there is now. I'm not sure if that's what people mean though when they say it will "Open things up".
I also can't vote no, because I'm not positive it isn't a good idea. I haven't seen a good enough argument yet saying it's a bad idea. I just don't want to see a knee-jerk reaction taken by the rules committee based on a public opinion poll. I think it's great to hear everyone's ideas, but they should be discussed and not just taken into law.
One thing I would like to see though, is a much better job done on defining exactly what key points in the rules mean. I hate these "interpretation" issues where we have to argue what was meant.
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Voted yes. I would like to see the 2.2p dims all unified with a mix of the current smallest minimums. Body height min, bodiless length and width. Keep the same rules on panels (would apply to body "doors", "roof", and "hood"), Roof must be 1" higher than chassis/ doorline to resemble a cockpit, etc...
It makes sense to me to streamline rules, and we can allow vehicles that show a hybrid of construction techniques without worrying which chassis rules to apply.
It makes sense to me to streamline rules, and we can allow vehicles that show a hybrid of construction techniques without worrying which chassis rules to apply.
Since most 1/18 bodies would fit the new dimensions I voted NO. If the rules would state it had to be a 1/10 scale body then I would be ok with the new rule, and the bodiless dimensions should not be messed with.
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ROWDY RACING
I wanna be Dave
WELL SAID! "thumbsup"
Agreed. "thumbsup"
Each style has its own pros/cons. I couldn't vote without knowing more about what "unification" means...
They are labeled as such for size reference only, not as a description. Not hard to figure out.
Re: Legal Body Panels Help Guide and Disscussion
I mean, the best driver would likely win the champs even if (s)he run an out-of-box RTR drift car... :roll:
But we all know that it's all up to driving skill, right?
I mean, the best driver would likely win the champs even if (s)he run an out-of-box RTR drift car... :roll:
DickyT
I wanna be Dave
Make it tap-a-talk friendlyVoted "thumbsup":mrgreen:
I just use the safari browser on my phone and can vote "thumbsup"
Well put Juan!
Because they need some sort of vision correction? :ror:
I could only guess that they see it as an advantage, but there are advantages to having a long, wide body like we are limited to at the moment. Personally I would not run a teeny one because you would lose those advantages, but some feel otherwise.
I'm not really sure what the motivation is behind this petition. It would be nice to know...
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