Petition for unified body/bodiless measurements

[Speedracer19]

Re: Legal Body Panels Help Guide and Disscussion

I could be way off base here, I don't know, but promotion in one way or another is what will grow this sport.

Your right but WHO is going to do that?

Think of this place is like RCTech but privately owned, they don't provide promotion of any events, just a place to talk, bitch about RC cars & the way things are run.

 

[ROWDY RACING]

Re: Legal Body Panels Help Guide and Disscussion

Your right but WHO is going to do that?

I don't know, you would think the powers that be would do it?

 

[EddieO]

Dang man I bet plane tickets all over the U.S., Japan, Europe etc. get really expensive.

I find it hard to believe that one of the most popular forms of real racing doesn't have a large following...





Since when does a national event constitute a class being popular? Every company that I am aware of makes at least one drift car, same goes for rally cars.




Nope I mean rally, ya know that class that has been going since the 1930's all over the world. Kyosho, Thunder Tiger, Traxxas, HPI, Tamiya, Losi, Associated, Atomik, Rally Legends, Exceed, etc. all make or have made rally cars in the last few years. And besides a couple of these companies most of them make several models of the cars, same with drifters.

Its not a massive class, but does have a growing following. It has always had a really good following over in Europe, but real Rally is still trying to gain momentum in the U.S.

Again National events and guys at your local track don't constitute a class being popular. Most of RC is comprised of bashers and guys that go out by themselves to have fun. I am willing to bet most of those "bashers" don't own stadium trucks. RC is about personal appeal and to many the scale aspect is becoming ever popular.

Race classes die over the years, its a fact, its doesn't happen because of looks, it happens because of politics and things being blown out of proportion. But most guys race because of a competitive drive, many will say they go to hang out with their friends, but at the very least the first event they came too they came to compete.

Yes, plane tickets were expensive....

Look up F1 RC racing, its simply NOT popular, even among the basher crowd....never has been. The cars are pricey, fragile and don't scale down very well and keep the correct looks without spending money to make them handle well....

The point of pointing out national stuff is these are rules about competitive crawling.........I pointed out realism never pans out well in the racing arena, you brought up a bunch of classes that have small to no following in the competitive racing arena....now that I dismissed them with fact, you are trying to counter that whats it matter if they are official....well, thats the point of statement.

What a person is doing in his backyard is NOT a class, just a different segment of RC. Some segments never make it to being a class thats competitive. You can chalk up Rally in this. Cool cars, but certainly not anything that's raced competitively nationwide. It's great its popular in your area....certainly was NOT what I was comparing to.

And while its GREAT companies make all the kits you pointed out, thats because not every car they make is a race car. Where is the that Associated Rally Car? Or the Losi F1, Ascsociated F1? Most popular class in the world yet, neither of the top 2 racing companies make 1...whats that tell ya?

I am fully aware of how the hobby breaks down between bashers and the competitive arena....we are not talking about bashers here, we are talking about the rules for competitive crawling. My example was to compare how realism was in the competitive racing arena, not the world of bashers. You did nothing but bring up a bunch of car types that have never amounted to much in this arena or were simply bad examples.

Later EddieO

 

[ROCKEDUP RICKY]

Nope I mean rally, ya know that class that has been going since the 1930's all over the world. Kyosho, Thunder Tiger, Traxxas, HPI, Tamiya, Losi, Associated, Atomik, Rally Legends, Exceed, etc. all make or have made rally cars in the last few years. And besides a couple of these companies most of them make several models of the cars, same with drifters.

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You would of thunk they had a rc Rally web site. He you are in the crawler rules talking about Rally.:ror:

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

The specifics are being left out until we can determine if it is a viable request from the public voting.

Why do that? If it is a legitimate concern or issue, all of us should know what it is and vote accordingly. Doing a poll without knowing the motivation behind it is pointless...people can vote one way without any real info and then do a complete 180* when they know the whole story.

 

[krawlfreak]

Why do that? If it is a legitimate concern or issue, all of us should know what it is and vote accordingly. Doing a poll without knowing the motivation behind it is pointless...people can vote one way without any real info and then do a complete 180* when they know the whole story.

I do believe the first post has suggested dims of 3" tall 3" wide and 61/2" -8"long for both bodiless and bodied trucks.

These would be overall minimum dimensions for both and the 1" rise from hood to roof would stay intact as well as the 1" minimum sides for both. All other bodiless rules would apply as far as panels and such for bodiless.

I also would propose that bodies would need to be physically mounted at 1 location front and rear so it does not flop around .

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

I do believe the first post has suggested dims of 3" tall 3" wide and 61/2" -8"long for both bodiless and bodied trucks.

Yes, but why?

These would be overall minimum dimensions for both and the 1" rise from hood to roof would stay intact as well as the 1" minimum sides for both. All other bodiless rules would apply as far as panels and such for bodiless.

It's a 1" rise from the "hood" to the top of the A-pillar, not the roof overall. If it was overall we'd be driving wedges.

I also would propose that bodies would need to be physically mounted at 1 location front and rear so it does not flop around .

Most definitely. A minimum of one point front, one point rear.

 

[opek]

Most definitely. A minimum of one point front, one point rear.

But why? A floppy body is a great body.

 

[DRCrawlGood]

I also would propose that bodies would need to be physically mounted at 1 location front and rear so it does not flop around .

So, you talk of "opening things up" and "moving forward with design" or even the word "evolution" was thrown around in one of your posts, but the first order of business is to gut a new chassis that embodies the very idea of this thread? Hypocrisy or PP account building?

 

[JeremyH]

These issues are WAY bigger than rules debates in my honest opinion. If these problems are not solved there will be nothing to have rules for.

Bingo! Hopefully the people who can make positive changes on these issues are reading these concerns and taking note...

 

[JeremyH]

the same point where all the LCQ entrants are let in to compete against all the guys that earned their invites.....just sayin:evil:

It was very disheartening to see this happen. I know quite a few people who were very mad about this.

 

[krawlfreak]

So, you talk of "opening things up" and "moving forward with design" or even the word "evolution" was thrown around in one of your posts, but the first order of business is to gut a new chassis that embodies the very idea of this thread? Hypocrisy or PP account building?

nobody wants to gut anything.

and i make pretty good money at my dayjob so your acusation is worthless.

and it is just a proposal, if you think a body hanging on by one screw and flopping is cool then do it. if you want a teeny body do it, if you want a bodiless truck do it.

i guess i didnt take yoshis chassis into consideration with that request. sorry.

i kinda feel with the minimums in place people could actually do what they would like best.

 

[The Violator]

Re: Legal Body Panels Help Guide and Disscussion

Bingo! Hopefully the people who can make positive changes on these issues are reading these concerns and taking note...

Yeah, except when anyone mentions change people go nuts and say how change is ruining the game.

 

[Robbob]

Yeah, except when anyone mentions change people go nuts and say how change is ruining the game.

I remember when they changed how max wheelbase was measured. You would have thought it was gonna end crawling then.

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[BC-Brian]

Re: Legal Body Panels Help Guide and Disscussion

Anyone know where the other discussion with the poll went....?

 

[ROWDY RACING]

Re: Legal Body Panels Help Guide and Disscussion

Anyone know where the other discussion with the poll went....?

It was removed.

 

[JohnRobHolmes]

Re: Legal Body Panels Help Guide and Disscussion

It was removed as a "rules committee matter", even though it was a petition from the public to the rules committee.


Evidently the "USRCCA" isn't interested in letting the public talk about the rules. The public that supports them.

 

[ROCKEDUP RICKY]

Re: Legal Body Panels Help Guide and Disscussion

It was removed as a "rules committee matter", even though it was a petition from the public to the rules committee.


Evidently the "USRCCA" isn't interested in letting the public talk about the rules. The public that supports them.

I don't feel it should have been deleted either, I wanted to hear what people had to say. I have my opinions and others do too. As a Rep my opinion isn't always the right one. I wanted to listen to them. It was one persons chioce to delete it.

 

[Robbob]

It was removed as a "rules committee matter", even though it was a petition from the public to the rules committee.


Evidently the "USRCCA" isn't interested in letting the public talk about the rules. The public that supports them.

Ouch.

It's to bad though.

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[krawlfreak]

Re: Legal Body Panels Help Guide and Disscussion

I don't feel it should have been deleted either, I wanted to hear what people had to say. I have my opinions and others do too. As a Rep my opinion isn't always the right one. I wanted to listen to them. It was one persons chioce to delete it.

DAMN Ricky!

i knew would see eye to eye on something eventually"thumbsup""thumbsup"