WVhillbilly
Rock Stacker
That is because if you say anything against him you are labeled "racist"
Which is exactly why he is in office.
Nobody wants the racist tag, so they won't stand up and try to do anything.
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I cant believe this...
- Thread starter JeremyH
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That is because if you say anything against him you are labeled "racist"
Which is exactly why he is in office.
Nobody wants the racist tag, so they won't stand up and try to do anything.
caymin last
Rock Crawler
IMHO, this whole healthcare reform debacle, is nothing more than a kind of tool. This exact same issue combined with other important factors have been used before in other parts of the world, as a method to gain more and more control over the peoples daily lives.
If you take a clue from history, and study the methods used in Germany and Russia, just to mention a few, you will find some extraordinary parallels with the implementing of tried and proven methods, like a game of 'divide and conquer', "incrementally" expand the gap between the upper and lower income/class by eliminating the middle class all together then wither down the upper class, indoctrinate the youth, take control of the mainstream news media, entertainment industry, the transport system, the auto industry, industrial manufacturing, fuel/food supply, housing, healthcare ect. and collapse the financial system, making the general population totaly dependant one the government for just about all their daily needs. Create the largest labour force in government controlled/supervised industries and interests as possible, most being fairly menial with relativly low pay, maybe cheap/free communial housing or other such perks as part of the compensation.
And total control over the masses will be in hand.
I'm not saying this is the intention, but take into account all the new proposed changes that are mentioned, almost in a fleeting way, just idea's, perhaps "change you can believe in" to make this a country where we are all equal, and everyone has access to affordable healthcare, where no person is more worthy/wealthier than another, as brothers and sisters working together for a better future, under a ruling elite who's hearts bleed for each and every citizen, equally.
This scenario has been played out countless times over the ages, some with phenominal success, sadness and suffering.
Nowadays people are too busy with living their lives of distractions, decadent pleasures and instant gratification, to even recognise the small, seemingly insignificant, subliminal and subtle signs of this slippery slope into this hopeless trap.
Become aware, and wrong, right or indifferent, DO SOMETHING, before it's too late, if it is'nt already.
If you take a clue from history, and study the methods used in Germany and Russia, just to mention a few, you will find some extraordinary parallels with the implementing of tried and proven methods, like a game of 'divide and conquer', "incrementally" expand the gap between the upper and lower income/class by eliminating the middle class all together then wither down the upper class, indoctrinate the youth, take control of the mainstream news media, entertainment industry, the transport system, the auto industry, industrial manufacturing, fuel/food supply, housing, healthcare ect. and collapse the financial system, making the general population totaly dependant one the government for just about all their daily needs. Create the largest labour force in government controlled/supervised industries and interests as possible, most being fairly menial with relativly low pay, maybe cheap/free communial housing or other such perks as part of the compensation.
And total control over the masses will be in hand.
I'm not saying this is the intention, but take into account all the new proposed changes that are mentioned, almost in a fleeting way, just idea's, perhaps "change you can believe in" to make this a country where we are all equal, and everyone has access to affordable healthcare, where no person is more worthy/wealthier than another, as brothers and sisters working together for a better future, under a ruling elite who's hearts bleed for each and every citizen, equally.
This scenario has been played out countless times over the ages, some with phenominal success, sadness and suffering.
Nowadays people are too busy with living their lives of distractions, decadent pleasures and instant gratification, to even recognise the small, seemingly insignificant, subliminal and subtle signs of this slippery slope into this hopeless trap.
Become aware, and wrong, right or indifferent, DO SOMETHING, before it's too late, if it is'nt already.
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rock hard
dnf
yes thier party and thier consituents
the rich make us all wealthy
its the trickle affect
the more money the goverment steals from my boss
the less money left for me
I like the privatization of social security=republican idea shot down by dems
I like the school voucher program=republican idea shot down by dems
the republicans have some ideas I'm against,but few
the problem with republicans is they are worried to often about offending the moderates,independants
dont worry about the others,support the beliefs of your base and you willhave the support of those with like minds.
yes the republicans are for industry. it is industry that creates real job growth. that puts money in all our pockets.
the wealthy are not the enemy,thay are your best ali. be gratfull they
have created a job for you.
taxing the rich hurts the economy
lowering taxed on the rich is a boost to the economy
reaganomics pure and simple
wanantrdsc
Quarry Creeper
"from time to time the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants"
- thomas jefferson
- thomas jefferson
:lmao:
I'm sorry, but that is the funniest damn thing I've read in a while.
May I remind you, or maybe you didn't know....Reagan is responsible for alot of the deregulation that is killing us. Banks got to run willy nilly. Our jobs and products went overseas. There's one for the Gipper...
I don't hate the rich. I know a few and they are very nice people. But "rich" is a relative term.
The trickle down effect is total bullshit. Its a con to make sure the super wealthy stay that way by funneling your tax dollars towards them. How much of that bail out money that our government gave to the banks and large corporations (the truly rich) got trickled down? How many jobs were saved, how many homes were snatched back from the brink of foreclosure? How many companies were saved from going bankrupt by the trickle down effect?
Had the gov't said "fawk you" to the beggars on Wall Street and wrote a $10,000 check out to each and every tax paying citizen in these United States (which would still be less than all the corporate bailouts combined), our economy would be booming. Mortages and taxes and loans would have been paid, goods and vehicles would have been purchased, people would have taken vactions (so not only are they buying stuff in thier home town, they are also buying stuff in other towns too), people would most likely plunk some of that down in savings accounts. All of that would have been good for every single industry on our shores.
edit: another reason, and I'm sure someone will point it out, is that the money may have been spent with overseas companies. It surely could have, and I would bet that this would have been so. But you know what? Thats capitolism baby! Its the best thing in the world unless you are at its mercy, and big corporations do not want to take the chance on being at the business end of that stick.
But they didn't.
They could have given us the power to take our personal selves further out of or completely out of debt. They could have given us the power to thumb our noses at the countries that hold so much of our national debt (China).
But they didn't.
Why? Because the people that fund and contribute to thier campains don't like it when we have that power. They don't want us to not owe them money. When we owe money, they make more off of us. Don't believe me? The topic of this thread is proof. They want something done, and they will do it, damn the people if they have to.
Most "rich" people, even if taxed 50% of what they make in a year, will still be living pretty well. What does that mean? In means that they would probably write themselves a smaller paycheck so that they fall into a lower bracket. So where would that money go? It would go back into the company. Employee's would make more, they would have better working conditions and equipment. They could afford to take vacations and lead happier lives. They would not be so far in debt. They could afford health insurance. They wouldn't have to work two or three jobs to make ends meet. They would SPEND more than they do now.
So thats alot of tax dollars being collected. What would be done with it? How about better roads, education, civil services, stronger infrastructure, more loans for small businesses. Get the picture?
The "rich" do not spend as much as you think they do. At least the smart ones don't. They watch and save every penny. They make wise purchases. They don't throw money around to anyone with something for sale just because they can. They put thier money in the bank. Which is great for the bank because they get to play with it all they want, no matter the outcome.
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And another thing....:ror:
I know its coming, so I'll go ahead and throw it out there....I'm one of the "sheeple" that voted for Obama.
The very first vote I cast in my 37 years on this planet was for our current president. Why? Because I was sick of the things that were happening and because for a brief instant I thought my vote meant something and things really would change. Up untill that point I had no interest in politics. I thought it was all a bunch of bullshit. And now that they shiny has wore off, its still a bunch of bullshit. So yes, you can polish a turd, but it doesn't last long.
And since we're on the subject of "sheeple", let me offer you this: the only ones who really use the word "sheeple" all run in the same political vein. I guess that makes you "sheeple" as well.
Our true enemy isn't the figurehead of our country. It isn't those that line thier pockets with pay offs and incentives. Its those "rich" people you love so dearly that you will willingly enslave your lives to and could give a damn whether you live or die as long as they get your time and your money. They want what they want, and they have the funds to get it.
I know its coming, so I'll go ahead and throw it out there....I'm one of the "sheeple" that voted for Obama.
The very first vote I cast in my 37 years on this planet was for our current president. Why? Because I was sick of the things that were happening and because for a brief instant I thought my vote meant something and things really would change. Up untill that point I had no interest in politics. I thought it was all a bunch of bullshit. And now that they shiny has wore off, its still a bunch of bullshit. So yes, you can polish a turd, but it doesn't last long.
And since we're on the subject of "sheeple", let me offer you this: the only ones who really use the word "sheeple" all run in the same political vein. I guess that makes you "sheeple" as well.
Our true enemy isn't the figurehead of our country. It isn't those that line thier pockets with pay offs and incentives. Its those "rich" people you love so dearly that you will willingly enslave your lives to and could give a damn whether you live or die as long as they get your time and your money. They want what they want, and they have the funds to get it.
PsychoCrawler
Pebble Pounder
Damn Duuuuuuude, tell us how you really feel. lol Seriously though, if you run for president I'll sure as sh!t vote for ya. Or if you wanna start a long overdue revolution I'd sign up for that too. "thumbsup"
Naw...presidency is not for me. I'm too corruptable. And a revolution? I'm too big of a puzzy for that. Save your vote for the Nuge! "thumbsup"
But seriously, all that I typed above is what happens when you don't "get all your news and information from only one source".
If you hear something that catches your attention, investigate it. Don't take that corporate paid talking head for his/her word. If I tell you that the sky is falling, are you going to immediately take shelter or will you first send your eyes to the sky to be sure I'm not a nut case?
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Well if I heard the sky was falling from you. I would assume since it came from you. That you heard it and researched it from more then one source.
So should I run and take shelter now...:shock:
Plus if I looked up... I don't want to loose an eye.
Maybe I did, maybe I didn't. Never hurts to check though, does it?
Maybe I need a new sig just for you....
"Duuuuuuuude, the most trusted and reliable source of political, economical, and sociological news on RCC."
or
"The sky is falling. Please proceed to the shelter I have constructed. Oh, and heres some lotion. Put it on your skin. PUT IT ON YOUR SKIN!"
X2
All either party seems to care about is getting elected again and adding to their campaign fund. Both parties are made up of lawyers that are in someones pocket.
All both parties seem to want to produce is massive bills that nobody can understand. Why can't we just put a few regulations on healthcare to try and get the costs down and see how it works out? Tort reform and buying health insurance across state lines would be in the first bunch of things I would try first and see how it pans out.
dezfan
I wanna be Dave
So how do you feel about your vote for Obama now?
We'd be screwed either way. The topics would be different, and some of the members of Congress and the Senate would be different, but the lobbyists and big money players would still be there to sway the votes. Just a new face on an old game.
dezfan
I wanna be Dave
I disagree, while McCain is far from my ideal candidate, I don't think we would be seeing anything approaching the radical ideology that Obama and his minions have hammered us with.
What we need is term limits!
I like McCain...more than I like Obama. But like I said, it really doesn't matter who's in the big chair...
And a big X2 on term limits (for starters). Them old crusty fawks need to go!
I'd also like to see:
1. No employment by special interest groups for at least 5 years after leaving any gov't position.
2. Any political seat taken can only be done so after cutting ALL ties with any business or corporation that that person may have owned, co-owned, or has interest in.
3. Any business or corporation that that person may have owned, co-owned, or had interest in is NOT eligible for any gov't contracts.
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JeremyH
I wanna be Dave
That will never happen. It takes a lot of money to run for most political offices....you cant do that if you're unemployed.
True, but if you're that good, you'll have plenty of financial backing. Besides, aren't our tax dollars used to help fund campains? Imagine how things would be if the powers-yet-to-be were limited to a set amount of funding. There might even be more than two parties standing on the stage towards the end of the campain trail...
And I said before they take office, not before they put themselves up for election. Though I'd take it either way.
JeremyH
I wanna be Dave
Oh, I would LOVE to see someone in office that actually cares about the people instead of the power. If you limited funding, then that's exactly what you'd get. However, Congress doesn't agree.....they recently eliminated caps on corporate funding of political campaigns. That's right, the current Congress (made up of almost double the amount of Democrats than Republicans) voted to allow big business to fund and run this country. Wait, I thought the Democrats were "for" the little man....the middle class.:roll:
binaryterror
I wanna be Dave
Scary :roll:
Bush was not a true republican...he was a spend hungry larger government lover. Those are both very anti-republican methods of governing.
I couldn't agree more. These party fights are worse than elementary level children. We need a change of the system. 3rd parties need to be able to win or atleast be remote contenders.
