Avoid Club5Racing bumpers

[tigris99]

Ok so yes I'm peeved right now. $80 down the drain. Except that's the only damage? This level of damage should have done some damage to the rest of my rig (which the tumble and slide wasn't bad at all, done WAY WORSE to this thing the first day I had it with nothing but scratches).

Now so far their customer service has been great. And their skids are AWESOME. This bumper is well thought out in every aspect except durability. Light bar integrated is cool as hell, works great.

First, night before last night was setting up new electrics and bumped my leg driving around, snapped the bull bar bit off. OK wtf.... but whatever.

Today it slid over a 12inch ledge onto the bumper, then rolled over and slid down a couple feet. Saw a peice of plastic go flying, figured it was the snorkel.

Nope see the pic!!! The stock bumper put up with a ton of abuse without issue.

That said, I'm going to email them and see what happens. If they'll send me a new bumper plastic section, I'll update because the bumper looks amazing, customer service was right on top of one of the lights missing (waiting to arrive). BUT ILL REINFORCE THE SHIT OUT OF IT.


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[Undead Jeeper]

Hobby imitating life.

Newer 1:1 vehicles have plastic bumpers so our toys do too. Get metal!

Good luck with getting a replacement [fingers crossed].
$80 for that? Damn, you're rich. :mrgreen:

 

[tigris99]

Not rich lol. But this rig was a Xmas gift from wife with the full purpose of trying to duplicate my 1:1 as close as possible which clear bodies being back ordered to April now is making difficult lol so krylon on the outside of stock works for now.

Plastic is fine, good bumper material for these if not brittle ass plastic. The stock bumper took way worse and just got put back on lol.

Not looking for a full replacement, but if I can get the plastic and the light bar optic (even if I gotta pay shipping or something) I'll he ok with, I'll just reinforce and do as planned, tube brush guard of sorts like my 1:1 has.

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[smc-93]

That's disappointing to see. I guess it's a good thing I hadn't ordered one yet.

I guess I'll have to keep looking around, maybe find an .STL for a printed bumper I like so I can easily replace it when it does break.

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[ferp420]

the tittle should just be "avoid club 5 racing"
ive never had one of there products but when i look at there stuff they sell i just wonder what there engineer was thinking there parts arent exsacly upgrades more downgrades in my opinion anyway

 

[tigris99]

Update

CS emailed me back already, replacement parts are being sent. They also said the picture and such is being pass on so they can update the design.

the tittle should just be "avoid club 5 racing"
ive never had one of there products but when i look at there stuff they sell i just wonder what there engineer was thinking there parts arent exsacly upgrades more downgrades in my opinion anyway

No way, if they are true to their word, Customer service is great. Their stainless skid plates are also awesome. But their plastic bits on the other hand not sure I'd trust at all. The bumper is well designed, just plastic is very hard and brittle, wrong choice in plastic. Looks great, lights function great.

Now can't say anything about the rest of course but if they are true to their word on emails, I will buy from them again if they have anything I think will work.

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[ferp420]

Update

CS emailed me back already, replacement parts are being sent. They also said the picture and such is being pass on so they can update the design.No way, if they are true to their word, Customer service is great. Their stainless skid plates are also awesome. But their plastic bits on the other hand not sure I'd trust at all. The bumper is well designed, just plastic is very hard and brittle, wrong choice in plastic. Looks great, lights function great.

Now can't say anything about the rest of course but if they are true to their word on emails, I will buy from them again if they have anything I think will work.

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they need to hire a engineer i havent seen one part that was designed right there not upgrades there downgrades a stainless skid isent a upgrade its better than aluminum but a stock plastic skid will perform way better than any stainless skid

there bumper failing is just another exsample of how poor there designs are
but it sounds like they have something good going on thats great there gona take care of ya
customer service is a lost art

 

[tigris99]

Ya CS is a lost art for sure.

I have to agree their people need to rethink a lot. Not designed well for this part of the hobby. But after running my rig this weekend with the skids, I'll stick by those. They hold up great (no chunks missing/gouges like my stock stuff) and make a smooth bend covering everything where the front meets the bottom of the IFS. Plastic bits are all still underneath. They went for 1:1 design at least for element ifs rig and it's great.

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[Doom!]

I have had no problems my club5Racing parts. Their fit is spot on. The wheel well/ inner fenders for my Sendero XD work great. I have a bunch of their products. I think they are probably just using the wrong material for their bumpers.

 

[HumboldtEF]

That looks to be a SLS print likely Nylon or something similar, it is one of the stronger ways to 3D print... but you still need to design things to be strong.

To me it looks too thin everywhere and the sheet metal backer may just make things worse as it wont allow the plastic to flex and return to its shape, once the metal bends it stays bent and I can see that leading to the 3D print snapping.

 

[smc-93]

That looks to be a SLS print likely Nylon or something similar, it is one of the stronger ways to 3D print... but you still need to design things to be strong.

To me it looks too thin everywhere and the sheet metal backer may just make things worse as it wont allow the plastic to flex and return to its shape, once the metal bends it stays bent and I can see that leading to the 3D print snapping.

From their site: "This bumper is 3D printed with PA12 Nylon material for all the fine details and back by a powder coated steel plate for strong support"

I'd have to agree with you on all counts. I don't know that I'd want the bumper made out such a hard brittle plastic. Especially one your paying so much money for (you can get machines aluminum, "overpriced" cchand Bronco bumpers on RC4WD for the same price) . Combined with the fact that (from the pictures provided) there doesn't seem to be much when it comes to the internal structure. It looks like just a hard, hollow plastic bumper shape mounted to the steel plate.

I feel like, as good as this bumper looks, it lands right in the middle of flexible enough to bounce back and rigid enough it doesn't move in the first place. Right in the spot you don't want to be for your bumper.

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[tigris99]

There is a lot of structure in the back of it.

Their description isn't accurate because I could swear the backing plate is aluminum not steel (otherwise it's really soft steel cause I bend it by hand no problem and it pushing 1/8 thick).


I'm hoping to see the replacement soon. I'm going to make a steel bumper guard like what my 1:1 has to protect it.

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[tigris99]

WELL CUSTOMER SERVICE IS AWESOME!!!

They sent replacement parts on the nose.

Ya bumper isn't one that can take much impact stress (or maybe I just got a badly printed one) but they were on top of getting me replacement parts.

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[OnTheTrail]

Just curios, what was the temperature outside when this damage occurred?

 

[tigris99]

About 41F IIRC. If it was 15F out I would haven't questioned the bumper, would have been my dumbass being stupid when it was too cold.

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