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2.2 Pro Class
- Thread starter Culetto
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JeremyH
I wanna be Dave
Do you just like the pain of long ass threads that have no ending?"thumbsup"
Lushtrucker
Rock Crawler
not that it matters, but to me if it is the same chassis and axles, it's the same rig.
TattooKenny
Who's your Daddy-0!
It's not when it becomes a new rig, it's is it the same rig! How do you guys judge it now Fish???? If I show up at ECC with my comp 2.2 rig and run the 2.2 class with it then put longer links on it, wheel wideners, and a different set of wheels on it can I run it in super class? It's still the same rig, I just adjusted it!
I think when you build it to be out of spec for the 2.2 class and in spec for the super class , then it is a new rig.
jcboof
I wanna be Dave
I didn't really think of that rule... Huh, guess i better just build a super then!
TattooKenny
Who's your Daddy-0!
So you can make changes at a comp to one rig to run in another class then is what you saying?
If you came to one of my comps and ran your 2.2, then went to the pits and changed the links and tires and wheels to be in spec with the super class. In my opinion as the rule is writen ,I can't see how that would be the same rig.
The specs say what 2.2 rig is and what a super is, how could you meet the specs of both classes with the same rig.
dezfan
I wanna be Dave
Are you guys having fun w/0 me again?:lol:
X2. If you built a super and a 2.2 using the same exact chassis, axles, and electronics, but with different wheelbases and wheel/tire size, you'd have two different rigs built within the rules of two different classes. It would be no different than doing what ROR said and swapping a few parts to comply with the rules of the next class you were going to run.
The issue would be running a 2.2 in sportsman, then re-enabling dig and running in the regular comps, or visa-versa. That would be using the same rig twice.
We have a asshole in here already ,but there's room for more.:lol:
TattooKenny
Who's your Daddy-0!
I'll add that to my notes as a judge:ror: I'm thinking about getting a I-Phone app made for me so I can keep up with all the rules that I comp all year long!
I would doubt that anyone would wana tear their dialed in 2.2's and have to rebuild it for super class at every comp, then back to 2.2 again though! And if you were doing 4WS that would be a pain as well to add the servo, take the lockouts off, add the steering links.
Also this would really only work for the MOA guys. Can't see doing a shafty like that and it being easy to do!
Fishmaxx
I wanna be Dave
Exactly!
I use to swap rx and ESC between 2.2 & Super trucks and it was a HUGE PITA! Sooner or later you will make a mistake:x
If the comp is a single day event you might make the Finals in one of the classes, and then you got to swap again.:roll:
At ECC the were going on at almost the same time.
Just get a PDF reader, and you will have the rules on your phone
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rock hard
dnf
pup
Quarry Creeper
It is easier than that Fishy. Just upload the rules PDF to Google Documents and you have them on your iPhone. I have had them on mine since they were released. "thumbsup"
Not trying to bust your balls or anything,but you said it.....
I don't agree with Fish much on things.:lol: But I agree,if you think it's worthy,start with your club and see how it goes.
I'm glad supers are starting to take off and we're seeing more builds now. I'm hoping more people in our area start building them. Cost wise.... A guy can build a legal super that would do well in the comps and he could have allot of fun with for the same as what it costs to build a 2.2 class rig. The super I have on the shelf....I've got TWICE the money in my Berg that it took to build my super.:lol: Sure,I build allot of my stuff.....that's super class though."thumbsup"
Terrain does effect the super class. A couple places we run are great places for supers,lots of big rock. Others,it's tough to challenge a super,but it's doable.
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losikid
Got Worms?
I'm all for the new class, First of all i don't think this will get rid of supers at all, only reason they're not as popular is because no one has made an rtr that a newb can come in and get interested into it, plus trying to get parts for them are mostly parts off other rigs like nitro monster trucks and stuff or alot of fabricating which requires skills.(How are they anymore expensive than a 2.2 rig) But this new class it isn't that hard to do. Only big differences i see is a longer wb and 4ws which would make an awesome 2.2. I also read how its the same rig, how can it be just because it uses the same axles and chassis, it is still a different car with different capabilities and it will look completely different and it cost 150 bucks worth of parts that need to be swapped, a servo and some more links. It doesn't take that much time to change it all, and i wouldn't run in both classes just because i'd prefer to run in the more advance class because the course would be way more extreme and switching back in forth would take a lot of skill to run two different rigs because they'll require new driving style. Also having a 7 inch tall tire would be killer, imagine the rover 7 inches tall instead of 5, i can think of double the lines i can't do with my crawler now, in my opinion supers are too big and the after market isn't huge for them, and if for those of you who don't like the idea of another 2.2 class, how about we make a 3.0 class. We can still have supers maybe even make them more popular because now you'll have a size in between the too which will draw attention because now all the 2.2 drivers will like the feel of a bigger crawler and will be more into building a super wanting that bigger crawler. I also read somewhere about having supers first to comp and i totally agree, i didn't even know there was a super class when i got started until i stayed after the 2.2 comps and seen some. So having these showing up first will also show newbs new possibilities the their lhs didn't tell them about.
