what is a droop setup exactly?

[devinbrown07]

i just ordered my axial crawler...and have been checking out the forums pretty heavily...but i have a question...
what exactly is droop...how does it work, and what are the benefits/drawbacks of it...i know it lowers the height but what else should i know about it before diving into something?
devin...

 

[devinbrown07]

35 views and no comments...any help would be fantastic...

 

[kirshbom]

Hey I'm a newbie, but here's my $.02 from my full size crawling POV. Droop refers to how much the shock drops out from static ride height. I believe what these guys are calling a droop set-up is when the rig is set-up without coils in the shock. So basically the only suspension travel you have is droop or drop out of the shocks. As you approach an obstacle where there is a drop off your suspension will follow the contour. Rock crawlers aim for around 70% droop/30% compression, but it's really personal preference and driving style that dictates what works for you. In general terms the faster you go ie rockracer vs crawler, the more compression travel you'll want. One RC that comes to mind is kamikaze on this board. I'm pretty sure most of his posts show a drop based crawler set-up. Bottom line, Have fun playing around with set-up variables. there is no right or wrong...only what you like and works best in the given situation.

 

[Robb]

Full Droop (in the RC Crawling world) simply means that at rest, the shocks are fully compressed, and under travel, they extend. This is accomplished by running no springs or springs internally under the piston inside the shock (keeping the shock compressed at rest).

Main Pro: Since the shocks are compressed at rest, the height of the vehicle is kept low. (ie, low COG)

Main Con: Difficult to set up properly. Lots of trial-n-error work (adding/removing springs, swapping out springs, changing oil weights, changing shock angle, etc) to get them running right.

 

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Full Droop (in the RC Crawling world) simply means that at rest, the shocks are fully compressed, and under travel, they extend. This is accomplished by running no springs or springs internally under the piston inside the shock (keeping the shock compressed at rest).

Main Pro: Since the shocks are compressed at rest, the height of the vehicle is kept low. (ie, low COG)

Main Con: Difficult to set up properly. Lots of trial-n-error work (adding/removing springs, swapping out springs, changing oil weights, changing shock angle, etc) to get them running right.

You said it. +1 on this. Sorry you didnt get the help you needed right away. The 35+ views were prolly people that were wondering the same thing. Im running droop up front w/ rcp internal springs and IT Sprung in the rear with 40wt up front and 35wt in the rear. Covered with Bigbores. And like here said above. Alot of trial and error. It does matter on your set up. You need a lot of shock weight on hand to mess around with. All chassis will be different. 50% of the time you MIGHT be using the same wt as the other guy but everything comes into play along with the trig of your links. Good luck"thumbsup"

 

[pizzaman]

You said it. +1 on this. Sorry you didnt get the help you needed right away. The 35+ views were prolly people that were wondering the same thing. Im running droop up front w/ rcp internal springs and IT Sprung in the rear with 40wt up front and 35wt in the rear. Covered with Bigbores. And like here said above. Alot of trial and error. It does matter on your set up. You need a lot of shock weight on hand to mess around with. All chassis will be different. 50% of the time you MIGHT be using the same wt as the other guy but everything comes into play along with the trig of your links. Good luck"thumbsup"

WOW what an easy to understand explanation. This is my first reply at this forum ( getting my ax10 tomorrow and have 15 brushless/nitro m/ts, truggies, buggies) and this is the best explanation for a newbie ever!!! THanks Robb. It really describes the action as a "regular" rc guy would understand it. I just purchased the axial on ebay and am a little nervous about my purchase. I spent 550 on a prebuilt with extras (after spending hours on this website) and feel totally confident I spent the $$ correctly. Thanks.

 

[devinbrown07]

thanks a lot...i had the general ideas right about it all...but just wanted to make sure....becuase i see a lot of comp rigs going to the droop setup....but overal thanks a lot..