toe in or toe out??

[8000ft]

just that?

 

[gbean]

Slightly in?

We're talking about steering angles though right? LoL

 

[8000ft]

yep guess I should have finished my thought but the steak was burning and I hit send too quickly. Yes as a general set up are we looking for a slight in or out?

 

[TacoCrawler]

slight toe out if going slow - crawling
as this tends to improve the turning radius.

slight toe in if going fast - bashing
'cause ya don't want tire friction slowing ya down.
or wandering at speed.

 

[CamaroTom]

I set mine up with 0 deg camber and 0 deg toe and it's been working good for me.

 

[binaryterror]

slight toe in if going fast - bashing
'cause ya don't want tire friction slowing ya down.
or wandering at speed.

Toe in or toe out has the same "friction" loss. If you are looking for just speed, 0 toe.

 

[8000ft]

Thanks guys. I had noticed that under full compression the front end is extremely toed out but neutral at full extension. I just did a pretty cool dual shock mod and I took the opportunity to reset the toe to a slight toe in at full extension which results in a slight toe out under compression.

I am heavy on the aluminum and no matter what shock or spring I used I just could not keep the front end up.

I think that I will become a supporter here for two reasons, it is only right that I give back to keep the access of such useful information available but most of all because I am not tech savvy and I can not figure out how to post pictures from Dropbox and I understand that by being a member that posting pics will be easier. "thumbsup"

 

[DeviledEggs]

I'll start by saying I do little to no crawling. Purely trailing and bashing. I like to have a very slight toe out condition at ride height. With 0 toe at rh the toe in upon extension just looked too drastic to me. The turn- in is very quick this way but with 500k in the diff, its stable enough. I run as much negative camber as I can before the uni's start clicking (need to dial it back, just bent another shaft). If there's one thing I dont like about the yeti's front end, as scale and cool as it looks, its the massive changes in dynamic toe and camber. Gues its just something we'll have to deal with.

+1 for gettin that star. What is it $20 a year? You dont even feel it. "thumbsup"

 

[STANG KILLA SS]

also toe out at speed will be darty and not track well.

 

[svt923]

This is from the JQ Racing tuning guide, its meant for 1/8 scale buggy racing but I think it applies to the Yeti as well:

5.1 Toe

The front wheels’ toe angle is normally set to 0, so the wheels are parallel, or a few degrees toe out. Toe in on the front is never used. Personally I feel that the front toe angle makes a very small difference in the handling of the car. More toe out should actually make the car more stable, contrary to what most people think. But I think the difference is small unless you go crazy with it and add many degrees.

You can read the rest here if you are bored:

http://eu.jqracing.com/files/PDFs/THE%20Guide-General-English.pdf

 

[DeviledEggs]

As my knowledge of wheel alignment for performance comes from the 1:1 world (on road, at that) I'll keep my suggestions to myself. It should be said, however, that buggies are IRS and they run the rear tires toed in which creates a very stable back end. This has a huge impact on how the front end works. The yeti's solid rear axle kinda ties your hands there and the t-case and rear locker translate directly to power oversteer.

Good reading for sure but it should be taken with a grain of salt. Buggies with IRS and 3 tunable diffs are a far cry from our yetis.