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The Hibiscus Thread [Halp, He Seeketh]

Reezo

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As seen in other threads...

I bought my wife our first hibiscus plant and - while we are not a total disaster with plants - I would like to start on the right foot in growing it.

Some pics to show you the state of the plant, in the way we got it.

My first question would be:
- Where to plant it? Vase or ground?
- How sunny/shady should its location be?
- Any tips on the type of soil?
Anything can help, literally ;)

Thanks in advance!

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Hey brother! I have a good amount of experience with hibiscus plants. All of the ones we have at our house were rescues that looked like yours or much worse and they are all big beautiful bushes now. Weather is a big factor with them. If you get freezing temperatures for a prolonged time then you will definitely want to do a pot and not in the ground. So you can bring it in during those times. The only downside to having them in a pot is that the soil can dry out easier than in the ground so you might have to water it more often. Here in central Florida, we do get some freezes but nothing for a prolonged amount of time. All of our hibiscus are in the ground and once they have a good root base, they seem to survive the freezes pretty good. It will kill most of the branches, but with the good root base, they come back strong in the spring time after cutting back the dead branches. I typically use a good organic soil made for planters whether I put it in the ground or in a pot and fertilize every other month through the growing season with a 10-10-10 fertilizer. As for location, the ones we have now get 8+ hours of sunlight every day. But at our old house, the big one we had was in the shade 90% of the time. I don’t think that is a very critical part because they all seem to do good in the sun, or in the shade.

Hope this helps! Good luck with your new hibiscus! Have a great day!
 
Poor thing lol. But seriously... it's in pretty good shape and the good thing is that most hibiscus are pretty resilient when it comes to adverse growing conditions.

Container or ground- This will depend greatly on your particular region/ zone. If you have relatively temperate winters and a somewhat stable location where the pant will receive a decent amount of sunlight without extended periods of harsh weather, I might be inclined to eventually plant it in the ground. There are pros and cons to both.

Pros: If you keep a hibiscus in a container then you can move it into ideal conditions and away from adverse conditions ( this is primarily related to humidity, temperature, and light). You can move indoors or outdoors and have a bit more influence on the plants growing conditions as well as where it looks best in a room or on a patio.

Cons: Biggest con is that as the plant thrives in a container, then it's going to eventually need to be repotted. And eventually it may outgrow even the largest of containers. Also pots/ containers aren't cheap as they increase in size. And the bigger/ heavier the container, the more difficult they are to move. Our largest hibiscus resides in a pot that weighs about 125 lbs/ 56+ kg and when thoroughly watered is NOT fun to move around lol.

Just be mindful that if you plant directly into the ground, that the soil needs to be favorable for plant development. This means that if your soil is in poor condition... ph too high or too low, poor drainage, poor nutrient value, etc... you will need to make adjustments before planting. The hole that you dig needs to be at least 2-3x the size of the root-mass and that soil around the roots needs to be in good shape so tha the roots will "take".

Sun or shade- Hibiscus need a sunny location but this is subjective. For example, here where I live in Texas, full unfiltered sunlight is a death-sentence for many flowering "full sun" plants. Our summers get quite brutal between the heat and sunlight so our plants do better in partial sunlight and filtered. Hibiscus typically need at least six to eight hours of sunlight a day but again, this is relative to your particular region.

Soil- It's a balance. Like many plants, hibiscus do best in a well-draining soil however, a plant that is potted in well-draining soil will establish roots more quickly and will become root-bound and in need of a larger container sooner than later. Part of this balance also pertains to nutrients. In a well-draining soil, often times a plant will expend any and all nutrients fairly quickly as the plant's roots develop and expand. This is why often times you'll have a plant that initially does great but then reaches a plateau and seems to just stop growing and/ or producing blooms.

The hibiscus needs a soil that strikes a balance between loamy and nutrient-rich which means that a HUGE part of the plant's success lies within it's planting medium. You ideally want to ammend your soil rather than simply buying something prepackaged. People use and recommend all kinds of different amendments so there's not necessarily a "one size fits all" solution.

For our potted hibiscus plants, I've found that they thrive in a mix of coconut-coir and some kind of compost or organic matter ( earthworm castings are great.. that's worm poo). Bat guano is another highly praised nutrient/ nitrogen rich amendment. I still use earthworm castings but about a year ago started making my own aerobic compost... vegetable/ fruit scraps, coffee grounds, paper/ cardboard, etc. I don't recommend this route initially as it's a bit of work and time to get the compost established.

I'll say here that with commercially available soils ( Miracle Grow and the like) that there are some inherent negatives. One of which is that they tend to lose the nutrient/ organic compost composition rather quickly. What you're left with is a medium void of what the plant desperately needs to thrive. Also, with many of these soils, they use fillers that actually inhibit plant growth long-term. One example of this is a soil that mimics pearlite ( a respected aeration medium) with styrofoam. Pearlite provides aeration where styrofoam does not.... certainly not efficiently and not long term as the styrofoam actually leetches from the soil little by little with each watering.

But you can find decent soils out there. One of the best and most consistent that I've used is Fox Farms. They make different types but their Coco-Loco is a good starting point. That soil ( as well as their Happy Frog blend and Ocean Forest blend) is a great stand-alone soil if you don't want to do too much in the way of amendments.

Okay... If it were me, I would get those roots established by getting the plant into in a nice healthy soil in a container before planting in the ground. If it does well and you decide that you want to put it into the ground, at least get it healthy first.
 
I just saw the replies and jumped to write that on behalf of my wife and myself, thank you for taking the time to help me.

I'll just send my wife the link to this thread (and obviously also read), and then I'll keep you up ;)
 
I'd like to add here that fertilizing is a vital part of hibiscus thriving and blooming but you do have to be mindful of over-fertilizing all at once as well as over time... also fertilizing at the wrong time can hurt the plant. Upon transplanting/ re-potting, I try to keep the nitrogen levels in check and not overdo it... as well as at times that the plant may be stressed ( due to transplanting, insect infestation, poor soil/ growing conditions, etc). I typically use a slow-release fertilizer and I try to stay away from synthetic fertilizers for the most part. I do use hibiscus-specific fertilizers several times a year but mainly during growth/ blooming cycles rather than throughout the entire year. Too much nitrogen, especially at the wrong time can cause tender roots to burn and greatly reduce the plant's health. I generally use a 10-10-10 or 10-4-12. Nelson's ( available on Amazon) has worked very well for our hibiscus plants in the past fwiw.

Also be mindful of anything that may be feeding on your hibiscus such as aphids, mealy bugs, or mites. These can be problematic depending on where the plant was acquired and how widespread the infestation is. It's normally not difficult to get these pests under control but it does take some vigilance and a keen eye. Small break-outs can usually be resolved with some thorough spray/ rinse with just plain water from a garden hose and some pruning but a bad infestation may require a more amped-up approach like Neem Oil, some diatomaceous earth, and more severe pruning. The good thing is that hibiscus are indeed hardy and will bounce back in most instances.
 
Thank you guys for the help, this is a goldmine of tips. We decided to put it in a vase (I had this hunch already) to try and make it grow in "better" conditions, we found the spot that would work and, in case temps go haywire for it, we can protect it accordingly.

I'll post more pics as soon as I'm done. I told the plant she can relax as we got the best tips so we're gonna take good care of her. She gave me the stare.
 
Damn, HPD! Didn’t know you were a plant guy too lol!
I started doing yard-care landscaping in high-school and by college I was working in a couple nurseries and doing custom potting jobs... working towards my nurseryman's certification in Ohio. I got my wife into propagation shortly after we first met and she gravitated toward hibiscus cause she loves the size and vibrancy of the blooms. I'll have to share some pics of a few of my favorites.

We currently have seven hibiscus plants in our flowerbeds... three potted and four in the ground. That's along with a bunch of other things like oleanders, magnolia, Eugenia, Japanese boxwood, African iris, lantana, Esperanza, cana-lillies, fountain grass, yuccas, red and blue salvia, lemon & lime trees, sago palms, a Japanese maple, mountain laurels, crepe myrtles, desert willows, and probably a dozen more that I can't even think of atm.

I collect rainwter as well... highest yield this year was about 220 gallons. I think we're down to about 115 gal currently but hopefully summer will be fading soon lol. I estimated that we save roughly $300-$400 yr on our water bills so it's worth it in multiple regards.
Thank you guys for the help, this is a goldmine of tips. We decided to put it in a vase (I had this hunch already) to try and make it grow in "better" conditions, we found the spot that would work and, in case temps go haywire for it, we can protect it accordingly.

I'll post more pics as soon as I'm done. I told the plant she can relax as we got the best tips so we're gonna take good care of her. She gave me the stare.
lol. Hibisus is a good plant to go with in a container. She should do well with a little tlc and a little bit of effort.
 
That’s so awesome bro! I’m just a natural gardener passed down from generations on my dad’s side. My wife also has a green thumb. We usually do a garden but haven’t since the little guy came around, but plan on a fall garden this year. Have been getting the new spot ready. We will have 3x the garden that we’ve had other years. My wife is a house plant/succulent/cactus collector. She has over 40 house plants and over 250 cactus and succulents. We both have liked cactuses since we were kids. We also have a loquat tree and a white fig tree. Along with a bunch of other random plants we have gathered over the years.

That’s awesome you catch rain water. I would love to get my house setup for that. We are on a well so no real savings but much better water for the plants. Don’t know if I would want to water our organic garden with water off the shingle roof though.
 
That’s so awesome bro! I’m just a natural gardener passed down from generations on my dad’s side. My wife also has a green thumb. We usually do a garden but haven’t since the little guy came around, but plan on a fall garden this year. Have been getting the new spot ready. We will have 3x the garden that we’ve had other years. My wife is a house plant/succulent/cactus collector. She has over 40 house plants and over 250 cactus and succulents. We both have liked cactuses since we were kids. We also have a loquat tree and a white fig tree. Along with a bunch of other random plants we have gathered over the years.

That’s awesome you catch rain water. I would love to get my house setup for that. We are on a well so no real savings but much better water for the plants. Don’t know if I would want to water our organic garden with water off the shingle roof though.
We get our rainwater via our shingle roof although I typically allow a few gallons to pass through once it starts flowing... just to purge the initial aggregate and potential chemical content. I've never had any contamination issues negatively affecting our plants although most of our plants are ornamental and not for consumption. I sometimes filter the rainwater if there's much organic debris but that's not often. Normally I allow any sediment to settle in the collection bin(s) so that the harvested water is almost crystal clear.

I can't imagine in excess of 40 houseplants and what??... 250 cacti and succulents? That's awesome! She must have one hell of a green thumb.. I always had issues with over-watering and/ or poor soil/ drainage. Guess it takes a certain touch that I just don't have. I'm also fairly apprehensive around cactus after transplanting a large barrel cactus some years ago that impaled my leather gloves and subsequently my hand. Wound up getting infected and since then they kinda scare me lol. I've got a yucca plant in a container that used to reside along our sidewalk but after drawing blood from four different people including myself, I opted to get it away from potential victims lol.

Really cool that you're increasing your garden size. I'm envious. Next year I'm hoping to do at least one or two raised beds so that we can have some herbs, spinach, tomato, jalapeno, etc. But we'll see how that goes... so many other things that need attention. I'd also like to do a larger compost heap out back just to keep the self-sustaining/ organic approach going.

Nice to chat with ya about all this, brother!
 
Looks really good.

I should've mentioned ( because my previous posts weren't long-winded enough lol) to make sure that you layer some small stones in the bottom of the pot and that the pot has drainage holes or at least one center hole. Hopefully it does. Root rot can develop in potted plants if the new root growth is excessively submerged in water. This is a pretty vital thing that I should've touched on earlier... apologies.

Ideally you want to also have a saucer under the pot ( if it does indeed have drainage holes) to keep water from running out. Not an absolute necessity but a saucer can keep things cleaner around the container and allow moisture to seep back up into the roots... especially helpful in hotter dryer regions.

Otherwise.. that soil looks decent and the plant appears to be in very good condition with lots of new growth all over. Once it's a bit more established ( maybe in a week or two) don't be afraid to prune back spindly growth. Deliberate and conscientious pruning will result in a bushier plant and will promote fuller foliage and bloom production. Prune just above nodes with tender new growth rather than just randomly or in the middle of the stem.
 
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