"Sportsman" class feedback

[FinishLineRC]

Can I say in my defense I have never been money hungry, I do this for the love of it, I have to run a business, I make mistakes like everyone else, and I am sorry for taking a direction with my family and didnt answer my phone for awhile smartass.

 

[Ralphy]

The way I see it, right now, one driver can run a max of 3 classes; Amateur 1.9s, Pro 2.2, and Emptied Pockets Supers.
As it stands, my rig is a sportsman rig, as long as i don't use dig, and I'm still new enough to want to run in this class. If there's just gonna be a bunch of BS to go along with it, then I'd rather do what Chris said and just build a scaler and play in the mountains.

MONKEY RACER....
YA, WHY DONT YOU JUST TAKE THE DIG OFF THAT PIECE OF CRAP DROOPER OF YOURS AND RUN IN A CLASS WHERE YOU MIGHT HAVE A CHANCE IN HELL OF PLACING IN THE TOP 15! :mrgreen: AS FOR YOUR COMMENTS ON THE 1.9 CLASS, WE HAVE THE WORLD CHAMPION 1.9 DRIVER IN OUR SERIES AND MANY OTHER TOP COMPETITORS IN THE STATE IN THIS CLASS, SO HOW YOU GONNA CALL IT THE AMATURE CLASS? THAT'S BORDERLINE RETARDED TO ME! IT'S THE DRIVERS CLASS!(AKA THE CLASS FOR THOSE WHO CAN DRIVE) AND LET ME JUST SAY THAT SOME OF THE CRAP YOU POST IS REALLY IRRITATING!

Now that I got that out of my system.... I think that the "pro's" should determine what best for the beginners in this sportsman class and leave the opinion of the newbs and wannabees out. They still dont even know how to drive, so how they gonna have any insite into what should be best? Set up some fair rules and go with it, the rules can always be ammended as need be, right?

 

[FinishLineRC]

I have been wanting to do this kind of event for a long time...been talking to guys 4 awhile about this.....so Im not trying to jump in and be outta line....I just want to help support and have fun

 

[RPMJ]

We already have a no dig, no moa class its called the Scale Series. Why don't you guys use your old shafty parts and build one....."thumbsup"
Leave the "sportsmans class" to the newbies.

 

[FinishLineRC]

Does this mean I have to regress?? (not that Im a pro) lol

 

[monkeyracer]

MONKEY RACER....
[caps lock]Rant[/caps lock]

:shock: I didn't realize we were so close to a sandy beach...

If you really want to know why it's a "piece of crap drooper" it's only a piece of crap because of the electronics, of which most have since been upgraded. I've got the skills to place, but am handicapped by the vehicle right now. Which is why I have so much interest in the sportsman class.
If this class actually goes in a good direction, then who knows, you'll see my second-hand DNA in the for sale section.

I called the 1.9 class an amatuer class because people were saying that there's no need for a sportsman class becuase there's already a class like it, the 1.9s. Then the sportsman was called the amatuer class by some, so by the transitive property the 1.9 is the current amatuer class.

Also, there are way more irritating things on the forum than the stuff I post, but since you're buddy buddy with some of the guys that post it, you just ignore it. So why don't you just ignore me?

Now that I got that out of my system.... I think that the "pro's" should determine what best for the beginners in this sportsman class and leave the opinion of the newbs and wannabees out. They still dont even know how to drive, so how they gonna have any insite into what should be best? Set up some fair rules and go with it, the rules can always be ammended as need be, right?

So am I a newb or wannabe? And simply because of it, I don't have any insight? I quickly saw that at the comps, the winning rigs had more money in them than the others. I saw that the courses were designed to challenge those rigs, and as such, unless you had one like the other guys, even if you were the best driver in the world, you're not going to win; hence my signature...

I'd love for you to drive my rig on the same course as me and see who does better? Oh, wait, that's what this class is about, people competing on the same level, with similar rigs; the better driver wins.

In this kind of sport, it's important to hear the opinions of everyone that will be running. That's why griz didn't say: only the pros can give their opinions...

This thread is starting to get out of whack, and I will no longer post anything irrelevant to the original post. Sorry if anything I posted was "irritating" it was only in the intention of making this class better.

 

[paintballer9876]

Its funny where all arguing over toy cars "thumbsup"

anyway the driver makes the score not the crawler, so a berg can lose just as easily to a shafty as a berg can win against shafty, look at rubbaneck, he kicks all our asses moa and shafty alike. So i agree with 69crazyhorse moa or shafty it shouldnt matter a crappy driver with a good crawler still equals crappy run, a good driver with crappy vehicle equals decent run. Motors wont change much if you dont know how to control it you will break alot and or never make it up something. Same goes with batterys, its not going to make the driver better, moa's allow for a few more "lucky breaks" but in the end the series will show the better driver. If you still think that moa is a huge advantage than put 5 points automatically on there score before they start.

On the whole swapping classes thing, the "newbs" can swap over to pro 2.2 class just as easily as the pros swapping over to the sportsmans class. So the class isnt filled to the brim with pro drivers and a couple newbs, put a cap on the amount of pro 2.2 drivers in the sportmans class, its a first come first serve kinda deal.

This "debate" if you could even call it that it getting way to personal, its a question not an argument over tight pants :lol: answering phones, or if someone is a newb wannabe. "thumbsup"

 

[rmdesignworks]

just my two cents but as a fairly new guy on the rocks i think a sportsmans class would be a good thing,,,new drivers,,,run what you brung,,,driver versus driver as usual,,,a new driver with the best rig money can buy is still only as good as his skill,,,the rig definitely helps,,,but the different types of rigs competing against each other would make the new guys more ready for the following season or comp series to adjust for regular competition. make it where every new driver has to compete in sportsman first,,whether for a season or one or two series to move up to 2.2.

the veterans could be there to help the new guys recognize lines and read the rocks,position their rig for the next gate etc. just like it is now.

my biggest concern is that crawling doesn't turn into road course or dirt track for the new guys....i remember when i ran my first rc10 at mhor,,,i was treated like an intruder,,,someone actually broke my car while i used the bathroom,,just to keep me off the course....

every new guy,,imo,,suffers the same thing,,little brother syndrome,,,they wanna be apart of whats goin on but dont wanna piss em off so bad they get left behind.

why not concider a 2.2.2 class,,2.2 rig 2 channels only

 

[extreme]

i've tried to read most of this thread, so if im missing anything or its already been brought up i appologize.

i've been on this site since 04, i've been playing with r/c for the past 13 years! i have never seen a spec class take off.. and thats really what this is... a spec class is always a sportsman class and its always begginer oriented with the thought that a talented driver could also compete and make things interestings... this is all to level the playing feild.

unfortunatley this NEVER WORKS!! its a great idea in theory but in practice the begginer does not want to waste the money buying one rig for the season to compete with his own kind. he wants to improve at an accelerated rate so he will do what it takes to get a "comp 2.2" and compete with the big boys to know exactly what its gonna take to win.

the 1.9 class is already the "cheap" class that is basically the same as the 2.2 sportsman. and you can still run with the big dogs. i set up my junk for about 400 bucks and i feel like i could be competative! (just need to get out there one of these days! lol)

the small benefit for the newbies is not worth the extra hassle to the entire orginization! throw them into the fire and let the burn, develop there scars and then they will be tough enough to compete with the big dogs.

this is not knitting, its toy rock crawling! amd its no place for the weak!


or tight pants! ahahahah j/k TY im still supprised you managed to get your shit to work after being all stuffed up in those things!


AND ONE MORE THING! THIS IS ROCK CRAWLING KEEP IT FUN!!! THATS WHY IT TOOK OFF IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!

 

[hootie]

:idea: I have been reading this thread for a couple of days now. I have an idea that could work if all put are heads together
, try this when building the courses have them built for both classes. So when a someone comes up with a score sheet
that says sportmans class on it the driver would have to take a different line than the 2.2 class would take. Give the sportmans
more time a min. or less and 10 more points. But if sportmans driver rig breaks the rules then it goes to the 2.2 class. Just an idea!
O ya im one of the guys that help put on the hobbytown comps and its free to go there and play when ever i want to go. Im not happy about what im hearing about HT comps if u have something to say about there comps come see me at the next one, But I do see pro's there and they tell that they love the hard courses and have fun.

 

[TURTLE]

Yeah I know I was hoping it made me sterile.:lol:

 

[extreme]

rotflmao "tight pants FAIL!"