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SAF Berg gears
- Thread starter Erik D_lux
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Invoice sent "thumbsup"
They will all come standard with big pins. "thumbsup"
Yep, now we can all take them for granted and act like there was never a problem. :lmao:
I thought about making them all 48p. Couple reasons I didnt. First was because I am a bit of a purist (ha) and wanted to keep them .6 mod for sentimental reasons. Another was to make it so they can possibly be used with existing gears, which looks like it may have not worked out so good since the teeth on mine were made for each other, being a more ideal tooth rather than what has been made in the past.
You have been hinting a super for awhile. Get to work! Two long side wraith shafts and you could have a really cheap and strong super.
Tom G
Quarry Creeper
Got a chance to run these new gears in my Super last night NICE and quite. Dlux 26 grams RC4WD's 37g 11 Grams lighter . Both using RCB Alum. lockers Not to mention being able to use 48 pitch pinions!!!!!
Long Live BERG'S now that gears will be available agn Nice work Erik Dlux & Robinson Racing:mrgreen:"thumbsup""thumbsup""thumbsup""thumbsup""thumbsup"
Long Live BERG'S now that gears will be available agn Nice work Erik Dlux & Robinson Racing:mrgreen:"thumbsup""thumbsup""thumbsup""thumbsup""thumbsup"
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People are getting their SAF Berg gears and the reports are coming in. Everybody is getting to see first hand how smooth, quiet and tight the gearing is.
Nobody has either figured out or mentioned the "secret" benefit so I wanted to go over that in this post.
One of the biggest benefits of the gears is not only being able to use 48p pinions but you also get better gearing options. This means not only can you go with a smaller pinion because you can now find one that will hold up but before you only had the option of going with a 12t because thats the lowest you could find. Now, you can find as low as 9t if you like.
Now, you not only have the ability to run a smaller and better pinion but the SAF 2nd gear is slightly larger. THIS IS ALSO GIVING A BETTER RATIO.
If youre still awake, lets talk numbers because I think they are the best way to understand what we are talking about.
I was running a 14t pinion before in my Berg gears. To find which pinion I would run now to be the same ratio, I simply divide 42 (stock large 2nd gear) by 14 and come up with 42/14=3. 3 is the ratio of my first cluster of gearing. Now, the SAF large 2nd gear is 48t so you would want to 48t/3(previous ratio)= 16t. So, as you can see, a 16t pinion gear would give me the same ratio I had before with a 14t. If you have been paying attention, this is a benefit in itself since you now have a bigger more robust pinion gear than before.
Now, hopefully you can see the difference the new large 2nd gear is making. But, lets take it further so you can see how it drastically changes the overall ratio.
Below is the combined ratio for all gears. The only difference is the pinion gears and the difference from an SAF large 2nd to stock Berg large 2nd.
SAF large 2nd = 48t
Stock Berg large 2nd = 42t
Berg small 2nd = 14t
Berg large 3rd = 12t
Berg 4th gear = 48t
Stock Berg with 12t pinion
42/12=3.5
40/14=2.857
48/12=4
3.5*2.857*4= 39.99
OR what I consider the lowest ratio you can go with a Berg and still have a reliable pinion
42/14=3
40/14=2.857
48/12=4
3*2.857*4= 34.28
SAF gears with a 12t pinion
48/12=4
40/14=2.857
48/12=4
4*2.857*4= 45.71
If youre getting crazy, do a 9t pinion
42/9=4.66
40/14=2.857
48/12=4
3*2.857*4= 53.33
So, as you can see, this is a HUGE reason I am personally happy with these gear sets. I went from a 34.28 ratio with what I still consider a sub par pinion that I have to replace regularly (and sounds horrible) to a 45.71 ratio with a great pinion and that the sound of my car does not change because the pinion is wearing out. THAT IS A HUGE JUMP IN RATIOS!!!
Now, with the SAF gears, you have the great advantage of running a wider rage of gearing. If you like that, youre going to love what I have coming up next!
Nobody has either figured out or mentioned the "secret" benefit so I wanted to go over that in this post.
One of the biggest benefits of the gears is not only being able to use 48p pinions but you also get better gearing options. This means not only can you go with a smaller pinion because you can now find one that will hold up but before you only had the option of going with a 12t because thats the lowest you could find. Now, you can find as low as 9t if you like.
Now, you not only have the ability to run a smaller and better pinion but the SAF 2nd gear is slightly larger. THIS IS ALSO GIVING A BETTER RATIO.
If youre still awake, lets talk numbers because I think they are the best way to understand what we are talking about.
I was running a 14t pinion before in my Berg gears. To find which pinion I would run now to be the same ratio, I simply divide 42 (stock large 2nd gear) by 14 and come up with 42/14=3. 3 is the ratio of my first cluster of gearing. Now, the SAF large 2nd gear is 48t so you would want to 48t/3(previous ratio)= 16t. So, as you can see, a 16t pinion gear would give me the same ratio I had before with a 14t. If you have been paying attention, this is a benefit in itself since you now have a bigger more robust pinion gear than before.
Now, hopefully you can see the difference the new large 2nd gear is making. But, lets take it further so you can see how it drastically changes the overall ratio.
Below is the combined ratio for all gears. The only difference is the pinion gears and the difference from an SAF large 2nd to stock Berg large 2nd.
SAF large 2nd = 48t
Stock Berg large 2nd = 42t
Berg small 2nd = 14t
Berg large 3rd = 12t
Berg 4th gear = 48t
Stock Berg with 12t pinion
42/12=3.5
40/14=2.857
48/12=4
3.5*2.857*4= 39.99
OR what I consider the lowest ratio you can go with a Berg and still have a reliable pinion
42/14=3
40/14=2.857
48/12=4
3*2.857*4= 34.28
SAF gears with a 12t pinion
48/12=4
40/14=2.857
48/12=4
4*2.857*4= 45.71
If youre getting crazy, do a 9t pinion
42/9=4.66
40/14=2.857
48/12=4
3*2.857*4= 53.33
So, as you can see, this is a HUGE reason I am personally happy with these gear sets. I went from a 34.28 ratio with what I still consider a sub par pinion that I have to replace regularly (and sounds horrible) to a 45.71 ratio with a great pinion and that the sound of my car does not change because the pinion is wearing out. THAT IS A HUGE JUMP IN RATIOS!!!
Now, with the SAF gears, you have the great advantage of running a wider rage of gearing. If you like that, youre going to love what I have coming up next!
Another favorite thing about the gears is that you can see the gun drilling from the OUTSIDE of the case. No question when people see your car that they can see youre running quality parts. My only problem with looking at them is that all I can think of is making some sort of PTO that attaches to them.
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winnerone23
I wanna be Dave
WTF!!! 12 days later and my first glimpse of these!?!?!?!?
I seriously need to find a new job! One that doesn't have me gone 15hrs a day!
I sure can't wait to get a set in my rig! I'm really hoping these gears are ready to Stand and Fight, to keep your claims true.. I have an 11yr old hoping to give them a go, when I'm done with them, and someday his kido can run them!
Great work Erik!
I seriously need to find a new job! One that doesn't have me gone 15hrs a day!
I sure can't wait to get a set in my rig! I'm really hoping these gears are ready to Stand and Fight, to keep your claims true.. I have an 11yr old hoping to give them a go, when I'm done with them, and someday his kido can run them!
Great work Erik!
Seems everybody is busy these days!
Got the rest of your parts off to you too, hopefully you already know that though...
Got the rest of your parts off to you too, hopefully you already know that though...
