EGRESSor
RCC Addict
its not the same , the 33A universal has not the drag brake option and you can not deactivate the reverse delay
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OutRunner brushless motors?
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WRXronald
Rock Crawler
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thanks... thats what i was looking to figure out..........
EGRESSor said:
thanks... thats what i was looking to figure out..........
K_B
I wanna be Dave
I did a quick search for the Quark ESC and Bishop Power Products
has them as well. Those guys are great to deal with. Just FYI
has them as well. Those guys are great to deal with. Just FYI
microgoat
I wanna be Dave
There may be an issue with Quarks and outrunners. ESC's designed for inrunners and speed sometimes have issues with the outrunners (saturation?)
I'm not saying there IS a problem, but there could be a compatibility issue. I may have gotten lucky with the Mamba, because Castle derived it from an airplane ESC.
I'm not saying there IS a problem, but there could be a compatibility issue. I may have gotten lucky with the Mamba, because Castle derived it from an airplane ESC.
EGRESSor
RCC Addict
the quark runs fine with outrunners , there are 2 settings one for outrunner and more then 6pole innrunner and one for 2 or 4pole innrunner
the 33A version has a 3A bec the 22A only the 1.5A bec
the 33A version has a 3A bec the 22A only the 1.5A bec
microgoat
I wanna be Dave
Sweeeet! A car speedo designed for outrunners? Somebody's been reading this thread!
K_B
I wanna be Dave
microgoat said:
As soon as I read Egressor's post, I got so excited, my nipples got hard!
microgoat
I wanna be Dave
Guts!
Oddly enough, this hasn't been posted yet. For those unfamiliar, this is what an outrunner looks like on the inside, and why they're so torquey. Every time the field reverses, the can only has to rotate 1/12 of a turn, instead of half a turn like a brushed motor or a 2-pole inrunner. I'm still amazed at how punchy these little bastards are. This is an E-Flite Park 400.
Pictured is the last motor plate from my personal stash. No more left.
Oddly enough, this hasn't been posted yet. For those unfamiliar, this is what an outrunner looks like on the inside, and why they're so torquey. Every time the field reverses, the can only has to rotate 1/12 of a turn, instead of half a turn like a brushed motor or a 2-pole inrunner. I'm still amazed at how punchy these little bastards are. This is an E-Flite Park 400.
Pictured is the last motor plate from my personal stash. No more left.
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EGRESSor
RCC Addict
the can rotates slower
you have 12 stator poles
and 14 on your rotor
you have 12 stator poles
and 14 on your rotor
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microgoat
I wanna be Dave
Now THAT is really helpful. Nicely done. I almost understand it now :lol:
I hope Blazed doesn't see that last graphic, or he'll be sitting here for a week
I hope Blazed doesn't see that last graphic, or he'll be sitting here for a week
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K_B
I wanna be Dave
Well, the brains fell outta my Mamba. There seems to be a short either in the switch itself or the connection to the PCB is loose. I don't wanna cut off the shrink wrap because I don't wanna void any sort of warranty this thing might have.
In addition, I think I need a old priest and a young priest and some holy water. This thing seems to be possessed by something. It's beeping in tongues and being generally uncooperative.
When I can get the switch to work, the thing does it's normal startup beeps and then the thing just blinks it's little yellow, green, and red lights all together (no beeping). I don't know what's going on, so I ordered a Quark from BPP along with a new Mamba. I'm gonna put a call in to Castle and see what they say. Unless any of you have a degee in Theology and know what the hell is wrong with the Mamba?
And here's something that may have potentially screwed it up. I hooked up the motor wires backwards to my E-flite outrunner. I'm not sure if that's a problem or not. I hooked the "neutral" wire up like normal but switched the red and black to get the motor to turn in the right direction. Is that bad?
In addition, I think I need a old priest and a young priest and some holy water. This thing seems to be possessed by something. It's beeping in tongues and being generally uncooperative.
When I can get the switch to work, the thing does it's normal startup beeps and then the thing just blinks it's little yellow, green, and red lights all together (no beeping). I don't know what's going on, so I ordered a Quark from BPP along with a new Mamba. I'm gonna put a call in to Castle and see what they say. Unless any of you have a degee in Theology and know what the hell is wrong with the Mamba?
And here's something that may have potentially screwed it up. I hooked up the motor wires backwards to my E-flite outrunner. I'm not sure if that's a problem or not. I hooked the "neutral" wire up like normal but switched the red and black to get the motor to turn in the right direction. Is that bad?
microgoat
I wanna be Dave
The only thing that happens if you hook up a brushless motor "wrong" is that it'll spin the wrong way. Just swap any two wires to reverse the rotation. They really don't care which wire is which.
As far as the Mamba goes, it sounds like a bad switch. Castle will probably take care of it for you, they're very good about supporting their products.
Let us know how the Quark does.
As far as the Mamba goes, it sounds like a bad switch. Castle will probably take care of it for you, they're very good about supporting their products.
Let us know how the Quark does.
RATBASTARD808
Pebble Pounder
Looking for outrunners try checking the sale items at Hobby-Lobby
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/bargain-other.htm
I am using the 2212/26 gold with the Mamba ESC. Same problem as gone_wheelin, not enough power going to my servo's(hs-645 front, and 590m rear).
I removed the HS645, placed the 590M to the front, and locked the rear steer. Now I have no stall when I go full left or right steer. Still debating if I should go with a separate battery pack, or picking up an BEC Voltage Regulator. I am using a 3cell 2000 or 2100 Mah Lipo (12.5 Volt fully charged) I would like to have 4ws.
The only drawback is the voltage input. Mostly everyone will run a 6-8 cell pack or 2s lipo. If you are like me and have some 3s or 3 cell lipo pack I found 2 regulators.
BEC or VOLATGE REGULATOR for batteries over 10 volts
http://www.koolflightsystems.com/ultimatebec.htm
Ultimate BEC 6V Car / Marine
40 Volts Input / 6 Volts Output
From China: http://www.himodel.com/en/rc_hobby/electric_1295.php
From USA:
Same as China Model
http://stores.ebay.com/Hobby-Tech_Batteries-and-Chargers_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ19QQftidZ2QQtZkm - Look for the 3amp UBEChttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6049361877&fromMakeTrack=true
Same as China Model
http://www.rchotdeals.com/Products/rc/speed_controllers/himodel_3amps_switch_mode_ubec.html
Batteries up to 10 volt's
http://www.fromeco.org/Shop/aRegulators.htm
Batteries up to 8.4 volts or 2s (2cell Lipo)
http://www.maxxprod.com/mpi/mpi-21.html
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXJJF6&P=7
RB808
P.S. EGRESSor Great pictures! Could watch the last one for hours
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/bargain-other.htm
I am using the 2212/26 gold with the Mamba ESC. Same problem as gone_wheelin, not enough power going to my servo's(hs-645 front, and 590m rear).
I removed the HS645, placed the 590M to the front, and locked the rear steer. Now I have no stall when I go full left or right steer. Still debating if I should go with a separate battery pack, or picking up an BEC Voltage Regulator. I am using a 3cell 2000 or 2100 Mah Lipo (12.5 Volt fully charged) I would like to have 4ws.
The only drawback is the voltage input. Mostly everyone will run a 6-8 cell pack or 2s lipo. If you are like me and have some 3s or 3 cell lipo pack I found 2 regulators.
BEC or VOLATGE REGULATOR for batteries over 10 volts
http://www.koolflightsystems.com/ultimatebec.htm
Ultimate BEC 6V Car / Marine
40 Volts Input / 6 Volts Output
From China: http://www.himodel.com/en/rc_hobby/electric_1295.php
From USA:
Same as China Model
http://stores.ebay.com/Hobby-Tech_Batteries-and-Chargers_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ19QQftidZ2QQtZkm - Look for the 3amp UBEChttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6049361877&fromMakeTrack=true
Same as China Model
http://www.rchotdeals.com/Products/rc/speed_controllers/himodel_3amps_switch_mode_ubec.html
Batteries up to 10 volt's
http://www.fromeco.org/Shop/aRegulators.htm
Batteries up to 8.4 volts or 2s (2cell Lipo)
http://www.maxxprod.com/mpi/mpi-21.html
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXJJF6&P=7
RB808
P.S. EGRESSor Great pictures! Could watch the last one for hours
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K_B
I wanna be Dave
RATBASTARD808 said:
It NEVER fails! I just bought a Gold for $75 bucks at the LHS! Which WAS a good deal at the time (considering shipping). Oh well. Nobody ever said this hobby was cheap. I think a crack habit is probably cheaper.
For a regulator, it seems to me that the one to go with would be the MPI one. For the same price as the Novak, you get 3 times the BEC. Plus, I would think 3 amps would be barely enough for two servos. But Micro and JRH would know better than I.
microgoat
I wanna be Dave
Sigged :lol:
K_B
I wanna be Dave
My check for royalties better be in the mail! 
WRXronald
Rock Crawler
K_B said:
try R/C helis if you think crawlers are expensive....
EGRESSor
RCC Addict
its a shame :roll: i have invested about 800 in my heli and the weather is to bad to flyWRXronald said:try R/C helis if you think crawlers are expensive....
p.s. for WRXronald, i have a nice motor for mid size helis in the fs section ;-)
WRXronald
Rock Crawler
yes....
i saw it.....
i'm into the smaller birds--- as the size of the heli grows, the cost to fly it grows exponentially. from replacment parts to electronics to batteries...
i have easily $1700 into my Trex SE. and then in supporting tools/equip/parts/batteries etc the mountain of money i've dropped goes way up from there.
don't get me wrong i enjoy helis and still fly regularly... but the rc crawlers are a bit less expensive and a lot harder to break, and therefore ALOT less stressful when it comes to 'enjoying' them. :lol:
i look at it like this... you wanna chill out and enjoy a nice afternoon relaxing... take your crawler to the rock hill and thrash up some rocks.
you want a pure nail-biting adrenlin rush that will leave your hands trembling... take your $2000 helicopter (that you just spent 8hrs fiddling with and tweaking to get it flying just right) out to the air field and fly it up 200ft in the air... and try to bring it back all in 1 piece. ;-)
i saw it.....
i'm into the smaller birds--- as the size of the heli grows, the cost to fly it grows exponentially. from replacment parts to electronics to batteries...
i have easily $1700 into my Trex SE. and then in supporting tools/equip/parts/batteries etc the mountain of money i've dropped goes way up from there.
don't get me wrong i enjoy helis and still fly regularly... but the rc crawlers are a bit less expensive and a lot harder to break, and therefore ALOT less stressful when it comes to 'enjoying' them. :lol:
i look at it like this... you wanna chill out and enjoy a nice afternoon relaxing... take your crawler to the rock hill and thrash up some rocks.
you want a pure nail-biting adrenlin rush that will leave your hands trembling... take your $2000 helicopter (that you just spent 8hrs fiddling with and tweaking to get it flying just right) out to the air field and fly it up 200ft in the air... and try to bring it back all in 1 piece. ;-)
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RATBASTARD808
Pebble Pounder
I forgot to add where to get ESC's. Mostly Quark's, Mamba can be found almost anywhere Castle is sold.
Manufactory for Quark: http://www.sky-technology.net/home.htm
Local distributors:
http://www.b-p-p.com/proddetail.php?prod=ea_Quark33Car
http://www.shopatron.com/index/290.0
Cheaper ESC's
http://aero-model.com/ProductDetails.aspx?productID=432
http://www.grandrc.com/esc_brushless
View the movie found on RCgroups:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=381082
My T-REX Heli was sitting on my work bench, until the family of Tamiya Crawlers moved in.
I may have to sell the heli, I think I rather rebuild a crawler then rebuild a heli after a crash.
Here is a story I did for Rcgroups. Heli's can be fun but sometimes dangerous.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=364337
RB808
Manufactory for Quark: http://www.sky-technology.net/home.htm
Local distributors:
http://www.b-p-p.com/proddetail.php?prod=ea_Quark33Car
http://www.shopatron.com/index/290.0
Cheaper ESC's
http://aero-model.com/ProductDetails.aspx?productID=432
http://www.grandrc.com/esc_brushless
View the movie found on RCgroups:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=381082
My T-REX Heli was sitting on my work bench, until the family of Tamiya Crawlers moved in.
I may have to sell the heli, I think I rather rebuild a crawler then rebuild a heli after a crash.
Here is a story I did for Rcgroups. Heli's can be fun but sometimes dangerous.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=364337
RB808
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