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Illinois is awesome!

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/adaman...000-salaries-cost-taxpayers-10b/#392ec8031141

Copy/paste for the lazy and because Forbes site sucks.

Illinois is broke and continues to flirt with junk bond status. But the state’s financial woes aren’t stopping 63,000 government employees from bringing home six-figure salaries and higher.

Whenever we open the books, Illinois is consistently one of the worst offenders. Recently, we found auto pound supervisors in Chicago making $144,453; nurses at state corrections earning up to $254,781; junior college presidents making $465,420; university doctors earning $1.6 million; and 84 small-town “managers” out-earning every U.S. governor.

Using our interactive mapping tool, quickly review (by ZIP code) the 63,000 Illinois public employees who earn more than $100,000 and cost taxpayers $10 billion. Just click a pin and scroll down to see the results rendered in the chart beneath the map.

Here are a few examples of what you’ll uncover:

20,295 teachers and school administrators – including superintendents Joyce Carmine ($398,229) at Park Forest School District 63, Troy Paraday ($384,138 ) at Calumet City School District 155, and Jon Nebor ($377,409) at Indian Springs School District 109. Four of the top five salaries are in the south suburbs – not the affluent north shore.
10,676 rank-and-file workers and managers in Chicago – including $216,200 for embattled Mayor Rahm Emanuel (D) and $400,000 for Ginger Evans, Commissioner of Aviation – including a $100,000 bonus. Timothy Walter, a deputy police chief, made $240,917 – that’s $146,860 in overtime on top of his $94,056 base salary. Ramona Perkins, a police communications operator, pulled down $121,318 in overtime while making a $196,726!
9,567 college and university employees – including the southern Illinois junior college power couple Dale Chapman ($465,420) and Linda Terrill Chapman ($217,290). The pair combined for a $682,000 income at Lewis and Clark Community College. Fady Toufic Charbel ($1.58 million) and Konstantin Slavin ($1.04 million) are million-dollar doctors at the University of Illinois at Chicago.
8,640 State of Illinois employees – including $258,070 for Marian Frances Cook, a “contractual worker” at the newly created Dept. of Innovation and Technology. Further, there are the “barber” and “teacher of barbering” positions in the state prisons making $100,000+. Loreatha Coleman made $254,781 as a nurse at the Dept. of Corrections.
8,817 small town city and village employees – including 84 municipal managers out-earning every U.S. governor at $180,000. These managers include Lawrence Hileman (Glenview – $297,988 ); Michael Ellis (Grayslake – $264,486); Robert Kiely (Lake Forest – $255,247); Kevin Bowens (Libertyville – $254,428 ); and Richard Nahrstadt (Northbrook – $250,248 ).

In total, there is roughly $12 billion in cash compensation flowing to six-figure government workers when counting the 9,031 federal employees based in Illinois.

So, who are the biggest culprits in conferring six-figure salaries? We ranked the top 15 largest public pay and pension systems in Illinois:
OpenTheBooks.com

Illinois’ largest pay and pension systems conferring $100,000+ cash compensation

Corruption in Chicago

Rahm Emanuel’s Chicago now pays out more six-figure incomes than the state government. We found city truck drivers, tree trimmers, and street light repair workers earned six-figures. But, really, the problem is the overtime. Last year, the city paid out $283 million in overtime to 1,000 employees who pocketed more than $40,000 apiece.
OpenTheBooks.com

Chicago paid out $283 million in overtime (2016) - here are the top 10 city departments.

Taxpayer-Expensive Educators

Some of Illinois’ K-12 schools are spiking salaries and padding pensions. Data reveals nearly 30,000 teachers and administrators earned $100,000+ incomes. However, just 20,295 of those educators are currently employed; the other 9,305 are retired, resting on six-figure pensions.

Here’s how it breaks down in two of 900 school districts. Just 1,236 of the 2,147 educators with $100,000+ incomes are currently working.

In Township High School District 214, there were 500 retirees receiving six-figure annual pensions in addition to 640 working educators.
In Palatine Township High School 211, while 596 educators earned a six-figure salary, 491 retirees received six-figure lifetime pensions.

Private associations, nonprofits, and retired lawmakers

All kinds of entities are jumping on the gravy train. Private associations, nonprofit organizations and former lawmakers have gamed the system for personal gain. All of this is legal, although it shouldn’t be:

Former state representative Roger Eddy (R) currently makes $334,433 – that’s $303,953 as Executive Director of Illinois Association of School Boards (IASB) and $30,500 from his lawmaker’s pension. Eddy is double dipping for a second government pension, and his employer (IASB) – a private nonprofit – is further burdening an underfunded Teacher’s Retirement System.
Two of the highest earners within the municipal pension system work for private associations – not government. Brett Davis, Executive Director of Park District Risk Management Agency, makes $319,404, while Peter Murphy, Executive Director of Illinois Park District Association, brings in $309,972. These private nonprofits muscled their way into the government system and their huge salaries will mean lavish taxpayer-guaranteed pensions.
Former Gov. Jim Edgar (R) took $2.38 million in compensation from the University of Illinois (2000-2013) and has received at least $2 million in pension payments earned from his 20-year career as legislator, secretary of state and governor. Today, Edgar receives $241,272 ($20,106 per month) per year from two pension systems: the General Assembly Retirement System ($161,016) and the State University Retirement System ($80,256).

Highly Compensated Locals

County bosses are getting in on the action. In three of the 102 counties – DuPage (201), Lake (237) and Will (190) – 628 employees earned $100,000+. Lake won top honors with 237 six-figure employees. In DuPage, Tom Cuculich, the “Chief of Staff” to DuPage Board Chair Dan Cronin (R), made $201,750.

Even “water district” employees are tapping into the taxpayer largess with 1,432 employees making $100,000+. Across Illinois, 348 highly compensated “park district” employees make over $100,000.

Illinois, like many states, is in serious trouble. Policymakers are exploring desperate measures. Two weeks ago, ten Republicans voted with Democrats to override Governor Bruce Rauner’s veto of a permanent 32-percent income tax hike. Without reforms the tax hike will only feed a culture of waste and abuse.

Rauner was right to veto the income tax hike but he hasn’t shown serious resolve to curtail spending. In fact, he created a personal assistant position for his wife – who has no official state duties – for $100,000 a year at taxpayer expense.


https://www.illinoispolicy.org/reports/illinois-has-a-spending-problem-not-a-revenue-problem/

No copy/paste of this one. Unlike Forbes site Illinois tax payers are funding someone that puts together a decent website. :lol:



I'm sure all of Illinois issues are due to the 3 years of republitards running the joint. :lmao:
 
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My guess: They have to pay a lot to convince people to stay there.
 
Remember when government employees where called civil SERVANTS?

They didn't make a ton of money, but they had good benefits and retirement.

Now they are WAY over paided, don't do shit, and still have the great benefits and retirement.

It's the only reason government employment is the only place where unions are still strong.

No wonder states like Kommieforia and Killinois, are broke.

That's the problem with Socialism. Eventually you run out of other people's money.
 
As a former resident of the communist state of Illinois I can say the state is supper corrupt.

It has the highest number of governors in jail. Last one being Blagojevich a Dem, one of the things he tried was selling Obama's seat after he was elected pres.

There are doctors leaving the state in droves due to being to easy to be sued and businesses are leaving due to it being to easy to file workers comp and taxed 7 ways to sunday.

Chicago pretty much drives what is elected, the rest of the state is farms.
 
Forbes site has always been so terrible.

The problem with unequal distribution of wealth is that it creates inflation that the lower financial bracket of people can't keep up with. This creates poverty and dependency on social security.

People that earn more than they deserve (excluding entrepreneurs ) are happy because the current government takes good care of them and hence vote for them.

People from lower financial bracket are happy because the current government takes care of them and hence vote for them.

Its an evil way to manage resources in order to be in power.
 
arent those people just doing that american working thing you guys all love to brag about? they arent on welfare or anything... theyre working, and if you really wanted it you could work hard to achieve the same...

right?
 
arent those people just doing that american working thing you guys all love to brag about? they arent on welfare or anything... theyre working, and if you really wanted it you could work hard to achieve the same...

right?
There is more depth to society and its functionality then ' people working'.

The problem is not about someone working or on welfare, but more about how things are leaning in an unjust way.
Everything gets factorised, but injustice doesn't. Humans use each other on an intellectual level. This creates an unjust society, but people want a just and fare society which is impractical to achieve.

https://youtu.be/im2qtajv5Co
 
On the other end of the spectrum, New Hampshire can't even staff the new prison they are building because they pay their CO's garbage. Why be a CO in New Hampshire when you can move over the border to Mass and start at literally twice the money.
 
This is what happens when you allow people to set their own salaries.
 
arent those people just doing that american working thing you guys all love to brag about? they arent on welfare or anything... theyre working, and if you really wanted it you could work hard to achieve the same...

right?

Damn straight. They got off their lazy asses and got jobs, worked hard, and now get paid the big bucks. That's exactly what all them right-wingers been yellin' about! Fawkin' 'murica right there, son! Anybody who's complaining are just too lazy to get real jobs.
 
arent those people just doing that american working thing you guys all love to brag about? they arent on welfare or anything... theyre working, and if you really wanted it you could work hard to achieve the same...

right?

Don't be so obtuse you know as well as everyone else they were gaming the living fawk out of the system. Especially the cases with bonuses and overtime.


Damn straight. They got off their lazy asses and got jobs, worked hard, and now get paid the big bucks. That's exactly what all them right-wingers been yellin' about! Fawkin' 'murica right there, son! Anybody who's complaining are just too lazy to get real jobs.

:lol: Damn you're doing a fine job with the trolling attempts lately.

I just paid a $400 Chicago City Sticker parking ticket.

Good job plebiscite! Gotta do your civic duty to keep those hard working individuals in government paid. Especially your governors wife who is now his personal assistant making $100,000 a year doing nothing. :lmao:
 
:lol: Damn you're doing a fine job with the trolling attempts lately.

Well shit, man. You can either be pissed at people that don't live up to your standards or you can be pissed at the people that exceed them. You don't get to do both.
 
Well shit, man. You can either be pissed at people that don't live up to your standards or you can be pissed at the people that exceed them. You don't get to do both.

Sure you can. There is a huge divide between being a leach on the low end and a leach on the high end.
 
Sure you can. There is a huge divide between being a leach on the low end and a leach on the high end.

Hater.

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arent those people just doing that american working thing you guys all love to brag about? they arent on welfare or anything... theyre working, and if you really wanted it you could work hard to achieve the same...

right?

Damn straight. They got off their lazy asses and got jobs, worked hard, and now get paid the big bucks. That's exactly what all them right-wingers been yellin' about! Fawkin' 'murica right there, son! Anybody who's complaining are just too lazy to get real jobs.

Now, I could be way off...but my interpetation is that these "civil servants" would think of their failing state, which they care so much about...being in that sector and all...and let some of that huge salary go into the state instead of their dirty pockets.
 
Once again the retards show their true colors.

You think because we complain about the slackers leeching off the gov to buy rims and pot or whatever, that we don't care about the ones leeching and making big bucks? Wrong. Same song.


Neither are "working" for a living and neither have anything to do with the mindset of the "dream". Although I will admit that the current mindset of capitalism has not helped this cause.


This is nothing compared to Wall Street though....nevermind our elected officials.
 
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