Good shock option

[JatoTheRipper]

No

Thanks again, I think what confused me was they listed the high trail as 90mm in the specs but I'm thinking they copied the page both are listed as 8620 and 90mm but that must be an error.

You're welcome.

That was probably a listing error for sure.

I just noticed seller lumidave raised the price of his GTS shocks $10 since I posted that link!!! Here is a similar set below that is $5 cheaper.

Fits Traxxas TRX-4 Traxx Aluminum Shocks Front & Rear GTS Fits Sport / Defender | eBay

Parts Taken Off A TRX-4 With Traxx.

www.ebay.com

 

[HouseFeces]

Thanks a lot, looking forward to getting them.

 

[JatoTheRipper]

Thanks a lot, looking forward to getting them.

You're welcome. I hope you're happy with them.

 

[Col_Sanders]

Regarding the dlux shocks using o-rings for preload, that's the easiest way to do it since there are no threaded bodies. Any of the shocks using mini t springs do that or nothing at all (scx10 pro). I suppose one could 3d print a spacer to go on the bottom of the spring that might look better.

From a value perspective, if you buy a set of takeoff GTS shocks for $55, add tini shafts, and two sets of springs, you're at the same price or higher than the dlux. The colored bodies are significantly more expensive than dlux if you add any upgrades or extra spring rates.

 

[JatoTheRipper]

Regarding the dlux shocks using o-rings for preload, that's the easiest way to do it since there are no threaded bodies. Any of the shocks using mini t springs do that or nothing at all (scx10 pro). I suppose one could 3d print a spacer to go on the bottom of the spring that might look better.

From a value perspective, if you buy a set of takeoff GTS shocks for $55, add tini shafts, and two sets of springs, you're at the same price or higher than the dlux. The colored bodies are significantly more expensive than dlux if you add any upgrades or extra spring rates.

And I'll continue to call that a ghetto solution. The shock bodys should be threaded. What's next? Returning to preload clips?

 

[Col_Sanders]

And I'll continue to call that a ghetto solution. The shock bodys should be threaded. What's next? Returning to preload clips?

One of the advantages they offer is clearance because of the short slim spring. You can tuck them up closer to the chassis and dont have to worry about the spring binding/rubbing on the chassis. You can also run narrower offset on rims and have less chance of your front tires hitting the spring or shock body when turning. If you were to thread the body and use a longer and fatter spring, that advantage is gone.

Just because they aren't ideal for your intended use doesn't mean they are crap and it definitely doesn't mean they are overpriced.

 

[JatoTheRipper]

One of the advantages they offer is clearance because of the short slim spring. You can tuck them up closer to the chassis and dont have to worry about the spring binding/rubbing on the chassis. You can also run narrower offset on rims and have less chance of your front tires hitting the spring or shock body when turning. If you were to thread the body and use a longer and fatter spring, that advantage is gone.

Just because they aren't ideal for your intended use doesn't mean they are crap and it definitely doesn't mean they are overpriced.

Just voicing my opinion and I will clearly provide my reasoning and stand behind it. O-rings for preload? Sure, let's also revert back to dogbones too.

I can always find the GTS shocks on eBay for much less than MSRP. You will have to pay more if you want colors besides grey. In that case you can make an argument for DLux shocks I suppose, but guess who isn't buying. Maybe I'll try them one day if they go on sale, but at $86.50 for 4 old school shocks? Nah, they can keep them!

EDIT: Team KNK now has shocks too. They are also not cheap so I'm awaiting for some real non-team-member and non-fanboi feedback.

 

[MAGNUMB]

One of the advantages they offer is clearance because of the short slim spring. You can tuck them up closer to the chassis and dont have to worry about the spring binding/rubbing on the chassis. You can also run narrower offset on rims and have less chance of your front tires hitting the spring or shock body when turning. If you were to thread the body and use a longer and fatter spring, that advantage is gone.

Just because they aren't ideal for your intended use doesn't mean they are crap and it definitely doesn't mean they are overpriced.

I actually needed a shock without a threaded body and slimmer spring to help clearance the sway bar end link i installed on an Element rig. They have a spot to connect the sway bar end link, but it's directly next to the bottom the shock and a fatter spring perch would have prevent this sway bar install. I also like the look and function of the slimmer shocks and they don't collect as much mud/dirt and easier to clean when washing... the shocks springs/threads are always the hardest part to clean after a trail run. The only part i don;t like is having limited spring and piston options.

Jato loves to discount things based on only his experience It's his thing on this forum. haha

 

[JatoTheRipper]

Jato loves to discount things based on only his experience It's his thing on this forum. haha

Only CVTs and DLux shocks. I'm the anti-sheep. What can I say?

I looked at the Team KNK Boss shocks last night. It looks like they are Dravtech wannabe shocks, but the body has ridges not threads. I find this odd. If you're not going to thread the body, why not make it smooth? I'm thinking the ridges are just for looks. Thoughts?

(2) 90mm Boss Shocks Natural – Team KNK Hardware

KNK Boss 90mm Shocks Pre Assembled Removable Lower Spring Retainer Proprietary Machined Piston with O-Ring Seal Preventing All Blow By Fully Rebuildable Optional Offset Adjustable Mount Optional DLC (Diamond Like Coated) Shafts "Coming Soon" Optional Springs Available In (4) Spring Rates

teamknkhardware.com

 

[MAGNUMB]

Maybe for looks or maybe machining tolerances don't have to be as tight with the ridges....or to differentiate from the Dravtech which is probably the most likely answer
Think they would have looked more scale being smooth though.

 

[Col_Sanders]

Only CVTs and DLux shocks. I'm the anti-sheep. What can I say?

Years ago i used to shit on the popular product and buy stuff from other brands just because. I figured i was smarter than everyone. Then i REALLY thought about it and realized that when a lot of people are buying and running a particular product, there is a reason and it is not just because they're sheep.

The shocks are damn good. Big whoop you cant add preload by twisting a collar...the spring is actually the correct length for the shock and the majority of people running and advocating for them are running them on rigs with a lot of mounting options. We can fine tune that way.

 

[Col_Sanders]

Jato loves to discount things based on only his experience It's his thing on this forum. hahahai

Not always experience, sometimes just a misguided opinion.

 

[JatoTheRipper]

Years ago i used to shit on the popular product and buy stuff from other brands just because. I figured i was smarter than everyone. Then i REALLY thought about it and realized that when a lot of people are buying and running a particular product, there is a reason and it is not just because they're sheep.

The shocks are damn good. Big whoop you cant add preload by twisting a collar...the spring is actually the correct length for the shock and the majority of people running and advocating for them are running them on rigs with a lot of mounting options. We can fine tune that way.

I never said they’re not good shocks. I just think they’re overpriced. And I think less money can get you equal performance. If you have a 3D printer, you can use Mini-T springs on Traxxas 2660 shocks. And you can do it for way less than what DLux shocks cost.

That’s not hating on things because they’re popular. It’s trying to make sense of things.

Not always experience, sometimes just a misguided opinion.

Funny how opinions work…

 

[Col_Sanders]

The traxxas shocks are $54. Two packs of mini t springs is another $26. Now you're at $80. For $18 more you get your choice of color and aluminum spring cups, plus the ability to change length by a few mm with different rod ends. I dont see how that is a rip off.

 

[HahnsB2]

I recently put a set of Dravtechs on my 1/6 Willys, I'm quite happy with them. I needed the small size in order get max steering angle. Sure O-rings are a little hokey for setting pre-load, but it beats having a shock that's too fat to work in my application.

 

[JatoTheRipper]

The traxxas shocks are $54. Two packs of mini t springs is another $26. Now you're at $80. For $18 more you get your choice of color and aluminum spring cups, plus the ability to change length by a few mm with different rod ends. I dont see how that is a rip off.

I honestly keep forgetting the springs aren't included with Traxxas shocks unless you buy the GTS take-offs on eBay. Senile moment. My bad!

 

[Col_Sanders]

I honestly keep forgetting the springs aren't included with Traxxas shocks unless you buy the GTS take-offs on eBay. Senile moment. My bad!

All the little crap adds up.

 

[89Industries]

The traxxas shocks are $54. Two packs of mini t springs is another $26. Now you're at $80. For $18 more you get your choice of color and aluminum spring cups, plus the ability to change length by a few mm with different rod ends. I dont see how that is a rip off.

Also with the Traxxas shocks, the top caps are not meant to use the heim joint like ball. So then you have to buy a set of Traxxas topcaps that are for the pivot balls (forget which ones) so add in that cost as well. Or do the fuel tubing and washer thing with the original caps which i'm not a fan of.

I did the Traxxas/mini-t springs/dlux lower spring perch/topcap set up on my capra. I like it quite a bit.

I don't care about color and the natural hard anodize color is preferred for my grumpy engineer brain, but the real reason I chose the Traxxas setup over dravtech is because the dravtech have a lot of dead length. In other words, not much stroke for the length of the shock. I was trying to keep my Capra low without reducing travel too much or modifying the crap out of the cage.

Like Col_Sanders said somewhere, on a comp chassis that the dravtech are made for, there is a lot of shock location adjustability, so getting the height you want isn't as difficult. Also the preferred shock position is the layed down thing that gives a high leverage ratio so you get a lot of wheel travel for the amount of shock stroke you have.

 

[JatoTheRipper]

All the little crap adds up.

Yep I was wrong if you don’t use the take-off GTS shocks. I’ll admit it.

Also with the Traxxas shocks, the top caps are not meant to use the heim joint like ball. So then you have to buy a set of Traxxas topcaps that are for the pivot balls (forget which ones) so add in that cost as well. Or do the fuel tubing and washer thing with the original caps which i'm not a fan of.

I did the Traxxas/mini-t springs/dlux lower spring perch/topcap set up on my capra. I like it quite a bit.

I don't care about color and the natural hard anodize color is preferred for my grumpy engineer brain, but the real reason I chose the Traxxas setup over dravtech is because the dravtech have a lot of dead length. In other words, not much stroke for the length of the shock. I was trying to keep my Capra low without reducing travel too much or modifying the crap out of the cage.

Like Col_Sanders said somewhere, on a comp chassis that the dravtech are made for, there is a lot of shock location adjustability, so getting the height you want isn't as difficult. Also the preferred shock position is the layed down thing that gives a high leverage ratio so you get a lot of wheel travel for the amount of shock stroke you have.

Yeah I did notice the 92mm DLux shocks seem to have a short stroke compared to the overall length.

 

[Col_Sanders]

The GTS shocks don't have as light of rates as what dlux offers either. Not a big deal for scalers, but it is for comp trucks.

I'm not saying dlux are the best shocks out there, but i do think they are a great shock and a decent value, especially if you compare to some of the competition out there that hits $100/pair like the pitbulls.