Bouncy, Bouncy, Bouncy

[dAng! XJ]

First and foremost, I have Pro-line Slash Rear Shocks on all four corners.

I have bouncy issues. When on rough terrain or doing hill climbs, I can't keep it on the tires. It just seems to hop and never absorb the terrain. I have 30wt oil in the shocks and the stock powerstroke springs.

Is this a oil problem or a spring rate problem?

 

[sidehill]

go lighter !!!:mrgreen:

 

[Jay-Em]

It's part oil, part tire, part spring-thing. One influences the other. I use 100cps oil (=about 12wt) and axial purple springs.
Problem with big, balloon-tires is that they tend to act like skippy balls, no amount of shock-tuning is gonna cure that. There's a reason most SC' trucks, and buggies use low-profile tires.

If You are not big on dunkin' it, You could drill some holes in the tires, so they lose the air quicker. Makes a cool "sshpuff!" sound when bounding over the rocks :ror:

 

[dAng! XJ]

Yeah, I'm also on the stock RTR Ripsaw's. I have Mayhem wheels on the way, but I haven't decided on tires yet.

 

[YYCADM]

Agree....lighter weight shock oil and springs will help a lot. Memory foam in the tires will not rebound as quickly, but it gets hard when the temps drop and you wind up with tires that are flat spotted badly until you re-warm them

 

[ausjethro]

I had the same problem with my first Wraith-it jumped around like a frog in a sock! I tried the Proline scaler shocks and it improved the handling(as expected)but needed a bit more to stop the excessive bounce and rollovers.My current setup is as follows:
Gmade TS02 90MM shocks with internal springs.
Vanquish Procomp wheels and HB Sedona tires with trimmed foam.
Vanquish upper and lower titanium links.
Vanquish titanium steering links.
Vanquish chassis mounted servo bracket.
LRP 21.5T sensored brushless combo.
Spektrum receiver.
Savox 0251MG servo.
There are certainly better setups than mine out there but it's good enough for an amateur like me!

 

[2500hdon37s]

Yeah, I'm also on the stock RTR Ripsaw's. I have Mayhem wheels on the way, but I haven't decided on tires yet.

there is your problem, the stock rtr tires SUCK! plain and simple they did nouthing but bounce and hop on me. I now use pro-line TSL's and its not bouncy .

some weight in the wheels also helps this, and I and running 4oz up front and 2oz in the rear.

 

[crazee horse]

I run stock, with sealed holes, and I have stock shocks with then set soft. No problem at all. As for the ripsaws everyone is talking crap. They are a great tire. They don't look scale but who cares . They perform better than most.

 

[2500hdon37s]

I run stock, with sealed holes, and I have stock shocks with then set soft. No problem at all. As for the ripsaws everyone is talking crap. They are a great tire. They don't look scale but who cares . They perform better than most.

do you have the RTR tires or kit tires?

the kit tires are great, but the RTR tires are horrible, run a set next to rover, sedona, or a TSL and you'll see what everybody is saying.

 

[Jay-Em]

The rtr-tires are clearly chosen for their wear-resistance, not their grip, and are of a fairly stiff rubber. Skippy-balls....
The kit tires are even grippy on wet stones. Quite the difference. They also bounce waaay less, because their rubber is very soft.

 

[crazyorigin]

I think the stock RTR tires are pretty good but the foams are stiff. The pattern is good, it the compound is not as sticky a comp tire like white dot Rovers or Sedonas but I would rage the kit/V35 Ripsaws compound as being comparable.

Non vented tires will be bouncy and most stock foams have decent all around performance. Good foams and foam tuning will play a big part in your suspensions actions too. My Wraith is still on stock shocks just with preload adjusted and it performs quite well for my terrain. Taking shocks for a ACT and putting them on a Crawler will require spring and oil tuning. I am sure the springs will be too stiff on a SCT shock for crawling unless your building a high speed jumping machine.