Bolt on Portal Boxes for TXT and Possibly Clod axles!!

[bustedcrawler]

Ok here is the deal. For those of you who know what a portal box is and how it gives you more gear reduction and delivers more belly and axle clearance, you are more than likely going to want some for your crawler. But no one sells them.

I will be in a Senior design class this fall, and have most of the design for a portal box that replaces everything from the knuckle outward on a TXT axle. For me to devlop and build these as my project, I need to show interest. Also I would need to have a "client/s", who would need to be fairly local to the Denver/Golden area and be willing to have design reviews and meetings about the project. Also, the client and I would be sharing some of the cost of the project....gotta work on my free shit skills.

So...If you wanna see some portal boxes post up sharing your interest. If you think you got what it takes to be a client...then post up. I need to know and have a good idea on interest and clients by August 24th. School starts that day, and would like to goto the first day of Senior design prepared to get the school to ok this project.

 

[AFJ]

is it the thing like reduction that mounts on the axle, and than you mount the wheel to it?? or am i wrong

 

[Harley]

I'm usally Up for something custom, but I would like to see some sort of CAD proto or something along those lines. I might be a little too far away from you though. But hey there is ways to work around that.

 

[Ace]

I'd do it for a clod axle if I were you. Lots more of them and they are to narrow, make the portals widen the clod also. Lot bigger market, if market maters to you...

 

[AdamF]

Clod portals would rule. I bet the final product would be expensive though. I'm interested, but I'm crawling on a budget, so it if was over $100 for the set in the end, I would be out.

 

[BARK]

I think a TXT axle with the capabilities of Maxx Wheels would be IDEAL.
What CAD software will you be using?
If you need some help with Solidworks, I diddle a lil bit.

I think this would be an awsome idea but the construction would have to be SUPER SIMPLE to make them affordable.

Are you going to shoot for a total outer knuckle replacement or just a bolt on deal to the existing knuckle?

 

[Fishmaxx]

I am interested 8)

 

[toyofast]

BTW, this doesn't work too well :? You'll need to make it look like these,

 

[Destroyer]

I've already got a design for Clod portals, but it would cost over $2000 to machine a set of 4. I'm talking to my uncle tomorrow about making some , so I'll see how that goes and report back...

Destroyer

 

[BARK]

BTW, this doesn't work too well :? You'll need to make it look like these,

Isnt there another picture that goes with that series? The one that shows the portal boxes taken apart and the pinions exposed.

 

[bigred]

im intrested in the clod potals but 2000.00$ how about 80.00$ then i will buy some i live in california so you will have to ship them to me

 

[toyofast]

Isnt there another picture that goes with that series? The one that shows the portal boxes taken apart and the pinions exposed.

Yeah, there are more pics but nothing neat or cool..... it's just a GD-600 reduction unit bolted up to a Maxx wheel, and screwed to the Clod/Jugg/TXT plastic hub. It wasn't actually functional, just for looks

EDIT: Oops! Re-read what you wrote and figured it out that your coment didn't go towards my booty-fab one, you were talking about he blingin' axle....

Yes, I'll dig those up too.

 

[toyofast]

Nice setup on thess pages, though I can't read it :?
http://www.modellbau-mey.de.vu/
http://home.tiscalinet.ch/makau/

 

[bustedcrawler]

Ok here goes my attempt at answerin everyone's questions.

AFJ: see ToyoFast's pics for what a portal box is

Harley: I will post up CAD drawings at a much later date. My folks do not have any CAD programs on there computer. Not to mention any Finite Element Analysis prgorams.

Ace: I will do it for a clod....but I am also going to do a TXT. Since I have only a TXT, I can't test out a Clod portal...however you could..... I could more than likely make the portal box widen the clod axles, and accept Maxx wheels.

AdamF: Right now I am not making or selling these. I am seeing if there is enough interest for me to approach my school about letting me do this for my class. As for cost, all depends on the complexity, machinng required, and materials choosen.


BARK: I am going for total outter knuckle replacment, there seems to be no easy way to bolt on the box without going this route. I was already thinking of making it accept MAxx wheels. I will be using SolidEdge and SolidWorks, along with ALGOR FEA software.


FishMaxx: You got a Clod or TXT? Cause portals for a Maxx would involve sellin the Maxx and buying one of the above Maxxes would require tooo much redesigning.


ToyoFast: Nice scale Mog axle, complete with Torque Tube. My design is somewhat similar to the Mog axle portal, in that it will split into two halves. However I am planning one a 1 to 2 to 1 gear cluster, similar to a real Mog or Hummer portal box. Or for those who have not seen the internals of those, think of a Timing GEAR set for a v-8 engine... 1 gera on top of 2 gears which sits on top of 1 gear.

Destroyer: That is cool, but what are you making it out of and how complex is your desing to cost $2000????

BigRed: Not making them....gaugeing interest in them



Right now I am seeing if there is market interest, and looking for people to act as client's who live in the Golden/Denver/Boulder/Longmont area. People who will provide input, help to test them, and act as the end user. For me to take this on as my senior design project I need a Client/s.

Where are Dirk and Grizzly at? Are you two not interested More info as I can get it, and feel free to ask me questions, OTHER than HOW MUCH...I am NOT selling these at this point.

Thanks for your interest and feedback. Now who wants to sign up as a client????

 

[bustedcrawler]

Almost forgot, anybody got some TXT or Clod axles for sale or as a donation. Might even be able to write it off since it is going to a school!!

 

[Fishmaxx]

FishMaxx: You got a Clod or TXT? Cause portals for a Maxx would involve sellin the Maxx and buying one of the above Maxxes would require tooo much redesigning.

I got a clod project in the works


You could just concentrate on the portals, bolt them on to these axles.
It may save you some work 8)


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[bustedcrawler]

Well as long as those tubes will accept a stock clod outter knuckle design the portal boxes will bolt on.

 

[bustedcrawler]

Just to keep this in everyone's head.......

What do you guys want to see from me, so that I can gain some more support for this project. I have no problem doing it outside of school, but figured it was a good chance to take a required class and make it fun.

I know I have a couple people on board, but would like to see more so I have a better chance of showing the school that this is a legitimate project, there is interest, and it is worthwhile.

I cannot do CAD renderings at this point, but I can do hand drawings.

Also, if I can collect the parts needed, (Hint goto Wanted section Hint Hint) I will be able to possible debut portals at my BDay crawl on Spet. 11th.

Soo.....If you wanna have a well engineered, cheap, completely bolt on portal box, help me out, and voice your support.

Or they will be developed, and only those I know will get them, and I will just have to sit on the design........

 

[Grizzly4x4]

Like we discussed Busted, I am in.
I have a box in my garage with 6 complete sets of clod axles so if we need them for testing we got it. I can help with funding as well. Let me know when you want to meet.

I also think Maxx wheel hex should be an option.
I dont like the idea of the portal going on the steering knuckle cuz it increases scrub radius but I realize that that is the only way to bolt them to a TXT axle. I have another idea for clod axles and I am hoping what we develop from your idea can be put to use on my idea. So keep me up to date. 8)

 

[bustedcrawler]

I kinda forgot about the scrub radius part....oh well...I can make do and adjust. Plus, just have to get them done to see how much it will change. I am trying to keep them as narrow as possible, but big enough to fit gears, and be strong.

I will need to pick up a clod axle or two from you, so I can get the ideas for how to make it work on a clod.

Maxx adapters would definately be a part of the portals.