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Sport/Sportsman Class?
- Thread starter Duuuuuuuude
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How many of us NWARC want build one and we can run them next time we meet. And see how it goes. Then from there we could figure out rules of the class.
I guess we have different definitions of what "Sportsman" class is. I see it as a place where emphasis is put on driving and tuning. Not that you don't have to do that as well on a "Pro" level, but in Sportsman you can do it without being distracted by shiny expensive parts.
As far as a "tunable" chassis goes, Manning seems to be doing a pretty good job with his stock chassis.
Still, you could go as far as allowing home built chassis, as long as they aren't super-cool-guy-machine-shop-at-home items that would normally cost you quite a bit of coin. I built my entire super using nothing more than some cutting board and basic non-powered handtools (except for a drill).
Since I've got mine pretty much built, I'm down. I may hit Lakeview with it tommorow afternoon.
dezfan
I wanna be Dave
The Sportsman rules posted in this thread are more than adequate.
KISS!
KISS!
dezfan
I wanna be Dave
Waaaaaaa.
Again it's sportsman, not I'm a broke ass or I'm to cheap to spend a dollar class.:ror:
Again it's sportsman, not I'm a broke ass or I'm to cheap to spend a dollar class.:ror:
RCHuffer
Rock Crawler
[QUOTE I'm 100% all for a shafty/no dig class. Going to a first comp ever and seeing pro rigs with dig is demoralizing to a new guy. Been there. But putting limits on "upgrades" is tough to police. Gonna kick out a new guy that has never been to a comp before, didn't know the rules, and has the wrong tires/links/battery/motor/body/servo? Ouch. They'd never come back.
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LMFAO... That was me, my first comp I went to and entered in San Diego was with my bone stock ax10 straight out of the box, I thought I was making a fool of myself showing up to this comp, and then I saw a Berg driver driving with his rig and I was like "he's cheating". LOL
I wish they had this class when I started, because there's no way I could compete against Raul Duke and Nabil with the rig I started out with, Now our club has a novice class for the new guys to come out and have some fun.
I think it should be No Dig, Shafty's only. just my 2cents
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LMFAO... That was me, my first comp I went to and entered in San Diego was with my bone stock ax10 straight out of the box, I thought I was making a fool of myself showing up to this comp, and then I saw a Berg driver driving with his rig and I was like "he's cheating". LOL
I wish they had this class when I started, because there's no way I could compete against Raul Duke and Nabil with the rig I started out with, Now our club has a novice class for the new guys to come out and have some fun.
I think it should be No Dig, Shafty's only. just my 2cents
TattooKenny
Who's your Daddy-0!
It should be 2 Sportsman classes then. 1 for Shafty and 1 for MOA. Why should a new driver be limited to a shaft rig if he want to buy a Berg, Losi MOA, Clod, ect....? So the new kid now has to drive your Pro courses because he wanted a better rig IHO?
My first comp was the ECC 2 years ago! I went there with a Edge Axial! No Dig! I did my best. And I had a good time a learned a lot! We have seen time and time again that a shafty can beat a MOA rig! God forbid that someone has to buy a 3ch radio! Give it a little longer and I think it should change over to all 2.4!
This hobby isn't cheap by any means. If you want to just drive a shafty and make easy courses just have a "Get together" and not a comp! Drivers don't get better with easy courses and all the limits imposed on their rigs. That's my 2 cent:lol:
My first comp was the ECC 2 years ago! I went there with a Edge Axial! No Dig! I did my best. And I had a good time a learned a lot! We have seen time and time again that a shafty can beat a MOA rig! God forbid that someone has to buy a 3ch radio! Give it a little longer and I think it should change over to all 2.4!
This hobby isn't cheap by any means. If you want to just drive a shafty and make easy courses just have a "Get together" and not a comp! Drivers don't get better with easy courses and all the limits imposed on their rigs. That's my 2 cent:lol:
Waaaaaaa.
Again it's sportsman, not I'm a broke ass or I'm to cheap to spend a dollar class.:ror:
Never said I was broke or cheap (though it is that time of year again...lol). I just don't see the point of having a seperate class if the only thing that sets it apart from the regular 2.2 level is dig. Maybe my perception of what we're talking about is way off base...
I thought it would be fun to have a low budget class for the new guys to cut their teeth and a change of pace for the experienced. Thats why I suggested the $30 rule. Enough to get what you need, but not enough to go nuts.
Nobody said anything about making the courses easy, just not as hard as they would be for something that was better equipped.
btw: got mine done tonight. Other than a really crappy turning radius, I like it! Still gotta get used to running sprung again though...
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TattooKenny
Who's your Daddy-0!
Will "Pros" be allowed to compete in this class as well?
dezfan
I wanna be Dave
My Sportman rig will be a Losi CC RTR w/ a set of Panther Leopards and my trusty ol Hitec 7955 and a Mamba Max.
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chevellian
Rock Crawler
Our sportsman class originated from members having enough "leftover" parts after upgrading to practically build another rig. It has grown into the largest class at our comps. If a newby would show up with a berg or moa losi, he would have to run in 2.2. I don't think that has happened yet. Some guys will even lock out their dig to run in sportsman.
A lot of us run both sportsman and 2.2. We set up our courses to be run in both directions, 2.2 runs one way, sportsman the other. Some gates are changed a little in between classes depending on terrain. It has worked out really well for us and is a great class to grow the hobby.
A lot of us run both sportsman and 2.2. We set up our courses to be run in both directions, 2.2 runs one way, sportsman the other. Some gates are changed a little in between classes depending on terrain. It has worked out really well for us and is a great class to grow the hobby.
Sharkey
Rock Crawler
i like the idea of sportsman classes, but i think there should always be a novice class. i used to race electric touring, and you had stock (27 turn rubber tire) mod (unlimited foam or rubber). most of the experienced racers would race mod and stock, so as a newbie getting into it, its very intimidating, and when you constantly finnish at the back of the pack, despite improving driving skills and lap times, you dont see a change as were you finnish and in the end result it pushes guys out of the hobby. a novice class was formed and it was the same rules as touring stock. this gave the newbies enough confidence to actualy learn to drive and tune the chassis without the intimidation. my only complaint was there was no "bump up" rule, so guys would run all season in novice despite being fast enough to have top 3 finnishes in touring stock.
IMHO, have a sportsman class and if you find the experienced drivers are building rigs to run in that, form a novice class for newbies thats the same rules as sportsman. this really keeps the new guys out there. my only recomendation would be to have a bump up rule of some sort.
IMHO, have a sportsman class and if you find the experienced drivers are building rigs to run in that, form a novice class for newbies thats the same rules as sportsman. this really keeps the new guys out there. my only recomendation would be to have a bump up rule of some sort.
Chris you make a good point, Mike does well with his stock chassis, so the need for a after market chassis isn't needed, but can I buy one if I want too. :lol:
I see where you are coming from and the only way to do it would make everybody buy the same RTR rig and then just have a few mods they could do. That is a SPEC. CLASS
If the club is big enough you could have a Novice class, run what ever you want within the rules, MOA or SHAFTY with or without dig. Win a few times and move up to Pro class or Sportsman class.
Like Kenny said, a new guy wouldn't be forced to run a shafty.
I want to do a Sportsman class, but don't want to be held back on what I can do to the rig. Most mods in that class would be to make things stronger, not so much to make it proform better.
I see where you are coming from and the only way to do it would make everybody buy the same RTR rig and then just have a few mods they could do. That is a SPEC. CLASS
If the club is big enough you could have a Novice class, run what ever you want within the rules, MOA or SHAFTY with or without dig. Win a few times and move up to Pro class or Sportsman class.
Like Kenny said, a new guy wouldn't be forced to run a shafty.
I want to do a Sportsman class, but don't want to be held back on what I can do to the rig. Most mods in that class would be to make things stronger, not so much to make it proform better.
poorboyrc77
Rock Crawler
I like the idea of this class. I live in AL. Think of your first comp and seeing Gatekeeper drive his MOA & you have a stock artr ax10. You get my point ?
engineerjoe
Rock Crawler
There's a very simple way to keep the playing field level. Put in a "claiming" rule where any of the other competitors can buy any of the other competitors rig (minus radio/Rx) for $300 (or whatever agreed upon amount) for exactly 1 hour after the comp is done.
That way you can build any rig you want as long as you don't mind losing it for $300.
That way you can build any rig you want as long as you don't mind losing it for $300.
rockerrc
Rock Crawler
Now this would keep it fare!!!
