• Welcome to RCCrawler Forums.

    It looks like you're enjoying RCCrawler's Forums but haven't created an account yet. Why not take a minute to register for your own free account now? As a member you get free access to all of our forums and posts plus the ability to post your own messages, communicate directly with other members, and much more. Register now!

    Already a member? Login at the top of this page to stop seeing this message.

Wraith, Bomber and Yeti setup advice

Your motor/ESC/servo/radio choice is exactly what I went with based on recommendations on this site.

Thanks Durok,

Let me ask you a question on the Motor and ESC since you have the same - with the HH PP 540 motor and the Mamba Monster X did you get the Holmes Hobbies sensor wire for the X?
Sensor Wire 5.5" for Castle Mamba X Series - Wiring & Wiring Accessories - Electronics & Wiring
Or did you get the the short one from Castle:
TowerHobbies.com | Castle Creations X Series Sensor Harness
Or Both?
I'm just realizing I will need one of or both of these wires to get the combo working.
Thank you
 
Thanks Durok,

Let me ask you a question on the Motor and ESC since you have the same - with the HH PP 540 motor and the Mamba Monster X did you get the Holmes Hobbies sensor wire for the X?
Sensor Wire 5.5" for Castle Mamba X Series - Wiring & Wiring Accessories - Electronics & Wiring
Or did you get the the short one from Castle:
TowerHobbies.com | Castle Creations X Series Sensor Harness
Or Both?
I'm just realizing I will need one of or both of these wires to get the combo working.
Thank you

You need a sensor wire AND that stupid little X harness
 
An important upgrade for Bombers is a sway bar. With a big powerful motor, the torque twist is pretty crazy and that will tame it down. It will also help a lot on high speed handling. There are quite a few different options out there. I have the Vanquish setup on mine and don't really care for it. The set screws kept coming loose on it even with threadlock.

I actually did order a set of the Vanquish sway bar, but only for my Bomber IFS. I assumed the sway bars that come with Bomber kit were good enough. Not liking what I'm hearing so far though. Didn't see many other options the Bomber though. Thanks for the heads up "thumbsup"
 
Its hard to beat Incision links for the wraith ($55) and bomber ($44). Do you have any machinery to thread the ends?

List looks good though! "thumbsup"

Yoda,

I have a old set of Titanium coated hand dies/tap I purchased about 20yrs ago. Haven't used it in probably 10yrs or so. I figure I put it to good work and see if I can make it happen. I was definately tempted to get the ones out there, but with Wraith, Bomber and then the IFS Bomber, it was adding up real quick. The 8' length was around $50, plus the Traxxas rods were like $5 or $6 per dozen. If it don't work out...I will be hitting up those customs :oops:.

Btw, your IFS conversion is also one of the threads I read over and over and helped convince me to give it a try. Thank you
 
Sometimes I think I am the only person that sort of enjoy's the Build it stock, break the weak links, and tinker/ massage / tune it to your perfection. For me at least my favorite part of R/C is sitting down with my son, and figuring out what happened, what we need, and how we can make it better.

I also sometimes think I am the only person who loves the yeti as much as I love the bomber!

That being said, Revo ends are a must on any axial build, as well as some foams. Otherwise enjoy the time with the kids!

Hey Lanky,

The plan is to build it stock and have the parts on hand to replace when the stock blows. With the motor/ESC we're putting in, I'm thinking the stock version will be a short lived :twisted:. We shall see.
 
Hey Lanky,

The plan is to build it stock and have the parts on hand to replace when the stock blows. With the motor/ESC we're putting in, I'm thinking the stock version will be a short lived :twisted:. We shall see.

I run a HH puller 3500kv standard and MMX in my bomber on 4s, and have yet to have any issues.... 12/64

I run a HH puller pro XL 3500kv MMX in my yeti on 4s, without issues as well.... 15/64

I am running a RevoLectrix 5000 Mah Silver 70C 4.35v per cell pack on both. So they both see a ton of power/ wheel speed.... "thumbsup"

not saying others are wrong just saying I'm glad I didnt go out and spend $250 extra on a bunch of parts I thought I needed8)

I just set the punch at 50% on the bomber 75% on the Yeti, In my radio I set a Mild throttle/brake(reverse) curve -50. Again I feel its all what you tune, not what you buy to an extent.

in fact the only issue I have run into is related to a bunch of slop in my incision front locker... to remedy the issue, I went back to stock.... to think stock locker/plastic housing in a Vanquish Currie axle:roll:
 
Last edited:
Welcome to the forum, *Old*!
Good on you for spoiling yourself and the kids this Xmas, you're in for a lot of good times with these three rigs "thumbsup"

There are a lot of great suggestions in this thread.
I have a Bomber, so I'll throw my 2 cents in.

1. A metal motor mount is a great upgrade for any rig straight off the bat, but is a must when running big brushless power. A metal mount adds a lot of rigidity over the stock plastic mount, which is prone to flex when subjected to heat and torque, potentially messing up your pinion/spur gear mesh. It also acts as a sort of heat sink to help draw heat away from the motor.
There are a few options out there (Vanquish/Incision, Hot Racing, Axial), I chose to go with the Axial Machined Motor Mount (AX31156) for my Bomber. The transmission for the Yeti/Bomber is pretty much the same, so this mount can be used on both.
One thing to note is that using this mount can cause the stock slipper plate behind the spur gear to foul on the hole in the spur gear cover where the spur shaft enters the transmission. I never had this issue as I upgraded to the Machined Slipper Plates (AX31164) at the same time, which are machined in such a way that they clear with no issues. The other option is to just enlarge the hole in the cover with a Dremel so that the stock slipper plate clears it.

2. Even though Axial markets the new and larger M4 rod ends that are used on the Bomber as "beefier", they are still VERY weak. I broke about 4 or 5 of them before I decided to change out all of the rod ends to Traxxas M4 Revo rod ends (TX5347). These are MUCH stronger, and I haven't had a single one fail yet since I changed them all out.
These Traxxas rod ends are a little bit shorter that the stock Axial ones though, so you may need to add a few M4 spacers/washers to the upper links to correct your rear diff pinion angle, and also to the steering links to correct the toe in/out of the front wheels.

3. Beef Tubes are a great strength upgrade for any solid axle, and they come in a few varieties. I sent my Bomber cartwheeling down a large hill one time, the front plastic axle housing flexed in the process and bent one of the front universal shafts. Beef Tubes prevent this flex, and also provide a solid mount for C-hub/lockout screws to bite into to prevent stripping the stock plastic holes.
My Bomber is more of a high-speed runner, so I chose to go with the Aluminium U4 Beef Tubes in both front and rear axles. They are super light but add a lot of strength and rigidity. If you're going to be doing more crawling/trailing, you may want to consider the steel or brass Beef Tubes, which add a good bit of weight down low to keep the vehicle planted. Some people run a combination of both, with steel/brass in the front for low weight in the front axle to help with climbs, and aluminium in the rear for strength with no added weight.
All depends on what you plan on doing.

3. You're on the right track with Team KNK stainless hardware.
I would suggest getting a bunch of spare hardware to keep on hand in case you strip/lose some screws. Team KNK do a fair few different varieties to keep you covered. Unfortunately, nobody here in Australia really carries Team KNK stuff, but I ended up finding an eBay seller in Hong Kong that sells stainless fasteners.
I ordered a whole bunch of all different sizes and it is something that you don't quite realize how useful it is to have on hand until you actually have them on hand, haha.
In addition to the hardware, I highly suggesting having a bunch of shims/washers of various sizes on hand as well. These are useful if you need to shim the diff gears to set the mesh (I had to shim my rear pinion shaft between the driveshaft and the outer bearing to keep my pinion pulled away from the ring gear slightly) or place behind the wheel hex pins to eliminate any in/out axle shaft slop (again, I had to place a washer behind each hex pin for this reason). You will need 5mm shims for pinion shafts/gears and for the axle shafts behind the wheel hex pins.

Apart from these things, the Bomber is a super solid and super fun platform.
The HD diff gears front and rear will never worry you, and the stock aluminium links are a big improvement over previous versions (with the exception of the rod ends). I've considered upgrading to steel/titanium links, but the stockers are still going strong and they are light, so I won't upgrade unless I actually manage to break/bend them.
The transmission gears are metal, however they are cast sintered/powdered metal and not true machined metal. There are machined metal gears available (Hot Racing), but I wouldn't worry about upgrading unless the stock gears end up failing. I'm running 3500KV Puller Pro power in my Bomber and the tranny gears have been holding up just fine.
I HAVE been through a couple of servos, though. The first one was an HH SHV500 that had a faulty centre pin and stripped the output gear during the above mentioned cartwheeling episode. The second was an RC OMG Servo which had some pretty impressive specs, but ultimately didn't even last a single run before that one was cactus as well.
Holmes was super cool though, and they replaced my SHV500 with a brand new one that has been going strong ever since.
If you stick to the tried and true, quality servos (HH, Hitec, Savox, Futaba), you should be golden.

Have fun, mate! "thumbsup"
 
I run a HH puller 3500kv standard and MMX in my bomber on 4s, and have yet to have any issues.... 12/64

I run a HH puller pro XL 3500kv MMX in my yeti on 4s, without issues as well.... 15/64

I am running a RevoLectrix 5000 Mah Silver 70C 4.35v per cell pack on both. So they both see a ton of power/ wheel speed.... "thumbsup"

not saying others are wrong just saying I'm glad I didnt go out and spend $250 extra on a bunch of parts I thought I needed8)

I just set the punch at 50% on the bomber 75% on the Yeti, In my radio I set a Mild throttle/brake(reverse) curve -50. Again I feel its all what you tune, not what you buy to an extent.

in fact the only issue I have run into is related to a bunch of slop in my incision front locker... to remedy the issue, I went back to stock.... to think stock locker/plastic housing in a Vanquish Currie axle:roll:

I must say, I'm impressed and surprised to hear this. That's a lot of power with stock. Must be driver skill "thumbsup"
 
Welcome to the forum, *Old*!

In addition to the hardware, I highly suggesting having a bunch of shims/washers of various sizes on hand as well.

Sabo,

Thanks for the detailed info, especially the advice on the shims. Really appreciate it. Will need to get some for sure. Also on the Traxxas rods, didn't realize the Axials were garbage like that.

On the Beef Tubes, I went with brass, and only got one set each for the front axle. Did not get anything in the rear. Figure if they blow up the rear, will swap out to SSD center pumpkin axles or something where both axle lengths are the same. Plus the center pumpkin looks more scale. Thanks again!
 
The only comment I can add is that I found the stock gearing a little high on my wraith (Poison spider RTR) and also completely different to the gearing described in the manual (the manual stated 32p gears yet the car had 48p 80t spur & 20t pinion) so I fitted an 87t spur and 14t pinion along with a 55T brushed crawler motor, now it crawls nicely.

I also wasn't happy with the fact that their where no locking nuts to lock off tracking adjustments on the RC4WD steering linkage kit I fitted and also found the supplied 30mm replacement screw far too long, in fact it was fouling the inside of the wheel, so bought some plain 3mm nuts to use to lock off adjustments and a replacement 22mm screw which has done the trick.

One final note, when I un fastened the stock motor pinion there was a loud crack and it fell out in two bits!!
 
Sorry to bring this post back from the dead. Just wanted to thank everyone here that helped and offered up excellent advice for me. Really appreciative of that. Learned a lot from this thread and also from this forum in general.

Me and my two boys really bonded throughout the build and are having a blast playing with it. Now my daughter is getting really jealous and wants one of her own :roll::oops:
To be continued I guess...:shock:

Some completed pics of our 3 rigs.










Kids playroom taken over - wife not real pleased with this. 8)

 
Sometimes I think I am the only person that sort of enjoy's the Build it stock, break the weak links, and tinker/ massage / tune it to your perfection. For me at least my favorite part of R/C is sitting down with my son, and figuring out what happened, what we need, and how we can make it better.

I also sometimes think I am the only person who loves the yeti as much as I love the bomber!

That being said, Revo ends are a must on any axial build, as well as some foams. Otherwise enjoy the time with the kids!

This ^ However the new parts bug always seems to catch me. :(
 
Back
Top