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Ultimate "Axial" transmission build

ecoli

I wanna be Dave
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Just finished this off and thought I'd share. This is probably overkill for a lot of people, but if you really really want a bombproof Axial tranny, here's what to do. I said "Axial" in quotes as most of the parts on this tranny are now aftermarket parts.

Let's get started, parts:

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Billet Works Design FOFF motor plate (FOFF Motor Plate)

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Vanquish Products Axial aluminum case (VP Axial AX-10 Alum Trans Housing)

Robinson Racing diff gear and idler gear (Robinson Racing Products - Products and Pricing for Axial AX10 SCORPION)

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Robinson Racing GEN3 Slash 4x4 slipper unit (Robinson Racing Products - Products and Pricing for TRAXXAS SLASH)

Traxxas Slash slipper rebuild kit (Traxxas part 5552X)

Super Shafty Axial top shaft (Axial Top Shaft)

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Crawler Innovations Maxx drive shaft upgrade kit (C.I. Maxx Drive Shaft Upgrade Kit)

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The first thing to do is to open up the stock tranny, and replace the idler and diff gears with the RR gears, replace the stock outputs with the CI outputs and replace the stock top gear shaft with the Super Shafty output shaft (including replacing the stock cross pin with the small hardened pin included with the upgraded output shaft). Grease up with a quality lube like Team3Six rocklube gear grease (Scale Store - team3sixRC) and close it up.

I didn't bother taking pics of the above steps because, well, if you can't do these simple replacements, you're in the wrong hobby :ror:

What I did find was when putting the output shafts in the case, they were a little too tight. Found this was a result of the anodizing in the case, the tolerances are that tight. I just chucked up the outputs in my drill, spun it and took off a little bit of the lip the bearing seats on in the output with a file.

Next, bolt up the BWD FOFF plate to the case. Again, I had to do a little filing on the case and the motor plate to get the transmission spacer to fit. Not complaining, just noting that everything put together is extremely tight, which is a good thing!

You can see in this pic you also add in the larger hardened cross pin to the Super Shafty output shaft.

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Next is to mount the RR slipper which comes in 4 parts.

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First is the slipper base.

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Then the slipper pad.

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And finally the spur gear and bearing and outer spacer for the spring to rest on.

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Next is to open the Traxxas slipper rebuild kit. Everything on the left it unneeded parts. You only need the larger spring and locknut.

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Spring on.

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You'll need an 8mm driver for the nut.

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Done.

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Finally, attach the Maxx driveshafts. Again, tolerances are quite tight, so you may have to play with the yokes and outputs a bit to get them to slide on.

Completed product.

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Add your preferred motor and pinion. The RR spur takes 32p pinions (for standard 1/8" 540 motor output shafts) or 0.8mod pinions (for standard 5mm brushless motor output shafts).

Keep in mind that the above involved working with a number of different products from a number of different manufacturers all machined to high tolerance specifications. When you mix and match parts like this, some light modification like I needed to do should be expected. The end product though is well worth the little bit of effort this requires "thumbsup"
 
Great write up Chris. What you going to put it in ?

I think I'll just put it on the shelf :D!

Will be going in my 2012 C3 build. At this time, just running a crawlmaster 13t, but wanted the beef for the eventual upgrade to brushless.

Could you post a pic of the pinion yoke adapters?

Sure. Will snap a pic and post it up when I get a chance.
 
Nice setup! I just picked up most those parts today, minus the metal spur, while I was down at the Crawler Innovations compound.

Edit. Didn't see the links you posted up!

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Loks good and its tough. I have everything but the case and spur on my scx tranny. But I have the same spur sitting here. I onder how loud it is. I ask cuz I have the same spur on my 4x4 slash andits a noisy truck now but tough.

Anyways nice write up
 
Cool writeup! Thats the same setup that I have! I went with the 1pc Robinson Diff Gear / Outputs and used MIP driveshafts. Running 56/12 with a 13T Crawlmaster and it's suprisingly not as loud as I thought it would be. "thumbsup"

There is a lot of side to side play on my S.S. Top Shaft.. Like the hole location on one of the pins is not perfect. Do you have any of this? Maybe like .05".
 
As requested, some pics of the pinion side adapter output:

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4mm grub screws are used for holding it to the pinion output shaft, so no stripping tiny grub screws with your 1.5mm driver "thumbsup"

Cool writeup! Thats the same setup that I have! I went with the 1pc Robinson Diff Gear / Outputs and used MIP driveshafts. Running 56/12 with a 13T Crawlmaster and it's suprisingly not as loud as I thought it would be. "thumbsup"

There is a lot of side to side play on my S.S. Top Shaft.. Like the hole location on one of the pins is not perfect. Do you have any of this? Maybe like .05".

I went with the Maxx driveshafts for a few reasons. First, I needed the length, second, it's easy to find replacements, and finally, I wanted these to be the "weak point" in the drivetrain. Much easier to replace these if they blow up versus an internal part. Having said that, I've never had any issues with MIPs when I have run them in the past.

I guess your response answers the above question about noise. In my experience, metal on metal is always going to be louder than metal on plastic, but still quieter than nitro :mrgreen:

And yes, I do have play in the top shaft. Rick pm'd me about this before I even put it together and said it's the result of no spacer in the back of the RR slipper unit. He said you can put in a bearing or some fuel line tubing in behind to take up the slack, or just leave it, since under torque, it doesn't move. Will play with it and if I do put in a spacer, will add some more pics "thumbsup"
 
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WOW......
This is a GREAT write up Bud "thumbsup"

I have video of this Setup so you can here how loud it is found here:
KYOSHO MAD FORCE - YouTube

ALSO HERE:
"SNOOP" the Back Yard Basher - YouTube

About the slide play:
Because you are not using the original spur gear mount
there is nothing to keep the slipper shaft from moving a bit
so as "ecoli" said, "you can use an extra bearing to put behind the slipper pin"
OR some Nitro Fuel Tube works Great

I am running a TEKIN T8 combo with 6S and cant break this trans

Best Regards Rick
 
Thanks Chris for the write up. I accidentally bought the wrong slipper parts and I would have had a time figuring out where I went wrong if I hadn't stumbled apron this thread. I have just about every part you have on your except the Gen3 spur which will be ordered tomorrow for sure. Oh and is the 4x4 spur or the 2WD spur? The pic looks like a 2WD spur and I don't want to order the wrong thing. Thanks again buddy!!! "thumbsup"

Edit: Big thanks to you V84x4 for the video, Its not that noisy at all IMO!! And your RockForce is incredible!!
 
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Thanks for the reply Ecoli, the reason I asked was the "link" had the 7854 looking like it was the wrong one but I looked on Horizon and it looks just like yours so I ordered the wrong one but I can call and switch it right quick. Thanks again!!! "thumbsup"
 
Hey Ecoli, I ordered the 4x4 slipper unit and i don't think it was the right one Bro. It doesn't look like yours


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Here's a pic of what yours looks like. Are there two different ones for the 4x4 Slash based on the if you want a 54t or 56t spur?

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Jimmy The last photo is the 56T 2wd VXL unit
so yes there are 2 different versions, one for the 2WD and one for the 4WD Slash (54T)


Morten
 
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Jimmy, you have your spur gear on backwards :D! The slipper pads sit inside the groove in the spur gear. Flip it around and you should be good (you'll also be able to put your pinion gear further back on your motor shaft). Make sure you use the spring and nut from the Traxxas rebuild kit.

They make the 4x4 version in both a 54 and 56t version. Doesn't matter which you get, as long as it's the 4x4 version.
 
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